Player of the Game: Heat/Bulls

[heat4life]

This is a difficult one since different players came thru at different times... here is my best shot

Wade
JJ
Dragic

[HIF]

Wade
Whiteside
JJ

[kayath]

Dragic
Wade
Whiteside

1st Half we were not moving the ball & played slow. As a result we only had 3 assists & Bulls showed more energy.
2nd half we moved the ball & pushed the tempo - as a result we improved & generated more energy.
Dragic was the main catalyst for the turn around the 2nd half. He precipitated the changes/adjustments. Even the commentators clearly stated he was the force behind the 2h. I can't understand how some haven't even listed him in their top 3 players of the game

It's clear that some ppl here are just whiners and haters toward dragic and when you provide stats to prove them wrong, they say it's not important like you are talking to a child. Oh wait a minute, maybe they are just a bunch of kids.

[cyclix]

Wade
Whiteside
JJ

[Shewasfly]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

[HIF]

Dragic
Wade
Whiteside

1st Half we were not moving the ball & played slow. As a result we only had 3 assists & Bulls showed more energy.
2nd half we moved the ball & pushed the tempo - as a result we improved & generated more energy.
Dragic was the main catalyst for the turn around the 2nd half. He precipitated the changes/adjustments. Even the commentators clearly stated he was the force behind the 2h. I can't understand how some haven't even listed him in their top 3 players of the game

It's clear that some ppl here are just whiners and haters toward dragic and when you provide stats to prove them wrong, they say it's not important like you are talking to a child. Oh wait a minute, maybe they are just a bunch of kids.

Or perhaps we're not all Eastern Europeans.

Dragic had a good game against the Bulls but when it came to nearing crunch time (he entered replacing Wade who had built a 6 pt lead) he played okay and then played not so well. In fact he left as we were under attack and only up 1. JRich, Wade and JJ became the back court and by using Whiteside well they took us through to an easy win.

There is no way that Dragic was our best player, he played well but was a handicap when the game was on the line. We win by upping the D and scoring. I would probably have put him as our 4th best on the day but if he'd stayed in the game I think we'd have lost to a team that isn't even making the playoffs.

[Shewasfly]

1st Half we were not moving the ball & played slow. As a result we only had 3 assists & Bulls showed more energy.
2nd half we moved the ball & pushed the tempo - as a result we improved & generated more energy.
Dragic was the main catalyst for the turn around the 2nd half. He precipitated the changes/adjustments. Even the commentators clearly stated he was the force behind the 2h. I can't understand how some haven't even listed him in their top 3 players of the game

It's clear that some ppl here are just whiners and haters toward dragic and when you provide stats to prove them wrong, they say it's not important like you are talking to a child. Oh wait a minute, maybe they are just a bunch of kids.

Or perhaps we're not all Eastern Europeans.

Dragic had a good game against the Bulls but when it came to nearing crunch time (he entered replacing Wade who had built a 6 pt lead) he played okay and then played not so well. In fact he left as we were under attack and only up 1. JRich, Wade and JJ became the back court and by using Whiteside well they took us through to an easy win.

There is no way that Dragic was our best player, he played well but was a handicap when the game was on the line. We win by upping the D and scoring. I would probably have put him as our 4th best on the day but if he'd stayed in the game I think we'd have lost to a team that isn't even making the playoffs.

Exactly. He had good numbers, but the impact wasn't there imo. Against Detroit, when he was actually one of the bigger reasons we won, if ppl didn't have him in the top 3 then, then these Dragic fans would have a better argument.

[gom]

RealGM Heat fans are incredibly factional. Pro-Whiteside vs Contra-Whiteside, Pro-Wade vs Contra-Wade, Pro-Dragic vs Contra-Dragic? I really wonder why you can't cheer for our team and everyone on it. None of our players are perfect, but they each contribute in their own way. Any outside observer could immediately see the improvement of our team because of Dragic, yet some here insist that Chalmers & Cole provided the same benefits. Hogwash. And what about Wade? Why blame him for our offenses dysfunction, waiving +/- numbers around while complaining about his salary? He's a **** hall-of-famer. We are lucky to have him. Any other fanbase would be ecstatic for him to dress their colors. And I won't even start with Whiteside, our triple double do it with blocks Bulls killer on league minimum. RealGM Heat fans are like millionaires squabbling in their beachside villas complaining because the servants don't arrive with their drinks on time. Get some perspective. Almost any other team would love to have our "crappy" players.

[QUIZ]

RealGM Heat fans are incredibly factional. Pro-Whiteside vs Contra-Whiteside, Pro-Wade vs Contra-Wade, Pro-Dragic vs Contra-Dragic? I really wonder why you can't cheer for our team and everyone on it. None of our players are perfect, but they each contribute in their own way. Any outside observer could immediately see the improvement of our team because of Dragic, yet some here insist that Chalmers & Cole provided the same benefits. Hogwash. And what about Wade? Why blame him for our offenses dysfunction, waiving +/- numbers around while complaining about his salary? He's a **** hall-of-famer. We are lucky to have him. Any other fanbase would be ecstatic for him to dress their colors. And I won't even start with Whiteside, our triple double do it with blocks Bulls killer on league minimum. RealGM Heat fans are like millionaires squabbling in their beachside villas complaining because the servants don't arrive with their drinks on time. Get some perspective. Almost any other team would love to have our "crappy" players.

Yeah gom I don't know if I'll continue the player of the game next season. It seems like nothing good comes out of it.

[Orin]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

[kayath]

Pls don't stop doing player of the game just maybe remove warios part of it

[cyclix]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

When you combine +/- with USG% & ORTG, it's alot better

[kayath]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

Dragic has of 190+ total in +/- this year, best of any heat and amongst the best in the league so please... Talking about delusions
After the all-star game his +/- went a bit down while he is playing with 2nd unit more

[cyclix]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

Dragic has total of 190+ total in +/- this year, best of any heat and amongst the best in the league so please...
After the all-star game his +/- went a bit down while he is playing with 2nd unit more

List of Heat players with higher Net Rating than Dragic in the 4th quarter this season.

JJ
Chris Bosh
D Wade
Justise Winslow
Hassan Whiteside
Tyler Johnson
and a host of others...

When the game [has to] slow down, Dragic is near useless. When Wade and co. play in the most critical possessions and pull away the lead while Dragic's ass is on the bench, they will get the most credit

[Lord Hades]

Wade
Dragic (12 rebs. WTF?)
Joseph of Ye Isolation

[gom]

RealGM Heat fans are incredibly factional. Pro-Whiteside vs Contra-Whiteside, Pro-Wade vs Contra-Wade, Pro-Dragic vs Contra-Dragic? I really wonder why you can't cheer for our team and everyone on it. None of our players are perfect, but they each contribute in their own way. Any outside observer could immediately see the improvement of our team because of Dragic, yet some here insist that Chalmers & Cole provided the same benefits. Hogwash. And what about Wade? Why blame him for our offenses dysfunction, waiving +/- numbers around while complaining about his salary? He's a **** hall-of-famer. We are lucky to have him. Any other fanbase would be ecstatic for him to dress their colors. And I won't even start with Whiteside, our triple double do it with blocks Bulls killer on league minimum. RealGM Heat fans are like millionaires squabbling in their beachside villas complaining because the servants don't arrive with their drinks on time. Get some perspective. Almost any other team would love to have our "crappy" players.

Yeah gom I don't know if I'll continue the player of the game next season. It seems like nothing good comes out of it.

You're blameless, Quiz. Just like the Whiteside topic your intention was to create a positive space. If we forgo opportunities for diversion because other people might ruin it, we'll never do anything. Am I right?

[Shewasfly]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

He plays a lot of his minutes against the other team's bench. His +/- is reflected in that.

Honestly with the whole faction thing, I'm surprised how LITTLE people have to say about 'factions' until it involves Dragic getting criticism. This is not a shot at you gom ( ) but it is always funny to me to see no one except for me and like 2 other posters call out obvious Spo and especially Wade haters. But mention a Dragic flaw or not credit him entirely with our turnaround and the antennas are up about the unfairness of it all.

[gom]

"Dragic was the catalyst to our win"

Dragic on the night: worst +/-, lead consistently evaporated with him on the floor, finally pulled away when he was on the bench for a consistent time

The delusions are real

I can't speak for this game as I didn't had the time to watch it, and what you are saying may very well be true, but single game +/- doesn't have much value. And on the season as a whole, Dragic has the best raw +/- on our team, and by quite a margin.

He plays a lot of his minutes against the other team's bench. His +/- is reflected in that.

Honestly with the whole faction thing, I'm surprised how LITTLE people have to say about 'factions' until it involves Dragic getting criticism. This is not a shot at you gom ( ) but it is always funny to me to see no one except for me and like 2 other posters call out obvious Spo and especially Wade haters. But mention a Dragic flaw or not credit him entirely with our turnaround and the antennas are up about the unfairness of it all.

No, no, shewasfly. I've been meaning to address it for a while. Like you, the criticism about Wade pisses me off to no end. And I'm not saying that these guys are perfect, not at all, but most of our failings are team failings and not player failings. Essentially, we are all in this together, just like they are.

I just thought it was a good time to bring it up, because we are about to throw ourselves together into a pool of sharks that are going to want to tear us apart. That's what the postseason is about. Our team (unlike our fanbase) doesn't seem factional though. In fact, they're really supportive. Maybe it has to do with looking out for the rookies? I am not really sure, but this does look like a team that can become much more than the sum of its parts.

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