Reggie Bullock

[hoophabit]

I have been giving this alot of thought and what I'm thinking is that Bullock has worked his ass of since he was drafted, he only just turned 25, is in my mind the best shooter on this team and actually plays pretty good defense.

Should he at some point be given the chance to play heavy, heavy minutes (35-40) if the Pistons lock up the playoffs tonight for the last two games?

In the preseason all of us where astounded by his play. This wasn't just a "hey the filler is decent" type of thing he was just absurd. Then the regular season started and he took a dump.

I am confident(pun not intended) that when he clinched up and played poorly in the start of the season it snowballed for him as he has been over thus far in his nba career and probably thought "here we go again" and destroyed his confidence.

Bullock is the real deal people. It took a whole season for him to get his confidence but his shooting passing and defense means he should be the first guy off the bench for the playoffs and getting him a ton of minutes right beforehand may be exactly what he needs.

Agree. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be considered part of this core going forward. He's the same age as Jackson/Marcus, another former 1st rd pick who had to wait a few years before getting an opportunity (just like them), and now that he has he is capitalizing on it just like they did. He's only in his 3rd season too, so there's no reason why he should be limited to fringe rotation player at best status. What if he has potential to be more than that? Aside from not being much of a iso-scorer, he really has few weaknesses in his game. Can shoot, pass, defend, rebound, plays smart, has legit size for either position, is a great teammate, only 25, etc. And the fact that he's not an iso scorer is actually a strength on this team, as we have enough on-ball scorers already. He's really the perfect complimentary player for this core. Almost Tayshaun-like in that regard.

Yes, every true Piston fan should be hoping that Bullock is arriving and can be a part of the Pistons going forward. That would push the Suns deal into the realm of the epic. Getting acclimated to the best basketball league in the world doesn't happen overnight for a lot of players. This is why the patient types are common among the KCP supporters. (Middleton anyone?) This same thing applies for SJ, who was improving steadily prior to Frye's well placed elbow. If Bullock can continue to play like he has late in the season, he's the right choice for the team. The solid young vet is an easy choice over the slumping rookie.

[In SVG We Trust]

I was a Bullock fan since he was in the Clippers. Always though he had all the tools to be an effective role player, and hopefully he's going to prove it in Detroit.

Looking back, all the SVG trades have been steals, little o big, but steals.

[Todd3]

I have been giving this alot of thought and what I'm thinking is that Bullock has worked his ass of since he was drafted, he only just turned 25, is in my mind the best shooter on this team and actually plays pretty good defense.

Should he at some point be given the chance to play heavy, heavy minutes (35-40) if the Pistons lock up the playoffs tonight for the last two games?

In the preseason all of us where astounded by his play. This wasn't just a "hey the filler is decent" type of thing he was just absurd. Then the regular season started and he took a dump.

I am confident(pun not intended) that when he clinched up and played poorly in the start of the season it snowballed for him as he has been over thus far in his nba career and probably thought "here we go again" and destroyed his confidence.

Bullock is the real deal people. It took a whole season for him to get his confidence but his shooting passing and defense means he should be the first guy off the bench for the playoffs and getting him a ton of minutes right beforehand may be exactly what he needs.

Agree. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be considered part of this core going forward. He's the same age as Jackson/Marcus, another former 1st rd pick who had to wait a few years before getting an opportunity (just like them), and now that he has he is capitalizing on it just like they did. He's only in his 3rd season too, so there's no reason why he should be limited to fringe rotation player at best status. What if he has potential to be more than that? Aside from not being much of a iso-scorer, he really has few weaknesses in his game. Can shoot, pass, defend, rebound, plays smart, has legit size for either position, is a great teammate, only 25, etc. And the fact that he's not an iso scorer is actually a strength on this team, as we have enough on-ball scorers already. He's really the perfect complimentary player for this core. Almost Tayshaun-like in that regard.

Yes, every true Piston fan should be hoping that Bullock is arriving and can be a part of the Pistons going forward. That would push the Suns deal into the realm of the epic. Getting acclimated to the best basketball league in the world doesn't happen overnight for a lot of players. This is why the patient types are common among the KCP supporters. (Middleton anyone?) This same thing applies for SJ, who was improving steadily prior to Frye's well placed elbow. If Bullock can continue to play like he has late in the season, he's the right choice for the team. The solid young vet is an easy choice over the slumping rookie.

Not really the same situation as KCP, as he's been given every opportunity to succeed from day one. I think Bullock's situation is more like Reggie and Marcus. Guys who already had the talent and just needed a team to believe in them and an opportunity to show it.

[hoophabit]

Agree. There's no reason I can think of why he shouldn't be considered part of this core going forward. He's the same age as Jackson/Marcus, another former 1st rd pick who had to wait a few years before getting an opportunity (just like them), and now that he has he is capitalizing on it just like they did. He's only in his 3rd season too, so there's no reason why he should be limited to fringe rotation player at best status. What if he has potential to be more than that? Aside from not being much of a iso-scorer, he really has few weaknesses in his game. Can shoot, pass, defend, rebound, plays smart, has legit size for either position, is a great teammate, only 25, etc. And the fact that he's not an iso scorer is actually a strength on this team, as we have enough on-ball scorers already. He's really the perfect complimentary player for this core. Almost Tayshaun-like in that regard.

Yes, every true Piston fan should be hoping that Bullock is arriving and can be a part of the Pistons going forward. That would push the Suns deal into the realm of the epic. Getting acclimated to the best basketball league in the world doesn't happen overnight for a lot of players. This is why the patient types are common among the KCP supporters. (Middleton anyone?) This same thing applies for SJ, who was improving steadily prior to Frye's well placed elbow. If Bullock can continue to play like he has late in the season, he's the right choice for the team. The solid young vet is an easy choice over the slumping rookie.

Not really the same situation as KCP, as he's been given every opportunity to succeed from day one. I think Bullock's situation is more like Reggie and Marcus. Guys who already had the talent and just needed a team to believe in them and an opportunity to show it.

I gather you're telling me you consider KCP's career to date a failure? 23 year old KCP should be written off, but 25 year old Bullock's recent success is a confirmation of this talent? Okay, I'm good with that.

[Todd3]

Yes, every true Piston fan should be hoping that Bullock is arriving and can be a part of the Pistons going forward. That would push the Suns deal into the realm of the epic. Getting acclimated to the best basketball league in the world doesn't happen overnight for a lot of players. This is why the patient types are common among the KCP supporters. (Middleton anyone?) This same thing applies for SJ, who was improving steadily prior to Frye's well placed elbow. If Bullock can continue to play like he has late in the season, he's the right choice for the team. The solid young vet is an easy choice over the slumping rookie.

Not really the same situation as KCP, as he's been given every opportunity to succeed from day one. I think Bullock's situation is more like Reggie and Marcus. Guys who already had the talent and just needed a team to believe in them and an opportunity to show it.

I gather you're telling me you consider KCP's career to date a failure? 23 year old KCP should be written off, but 25 year old Bullock's recent success is a confirmation of this talent? Okay, I'm good with that.

Where did I said that?

I said it's not about patience with Bullock, it's about opportunity. Whereas with KCP, it's not about opportunity, it's about patience. Two opposite situations, so I didn't agree with the analogy you made, that's all.

[Todd3]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

[ComboGuardCity]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

[hoophabit]

Yes, I can see that distinction. To some degree the team's situation (lotto, etc.) enters into it. It's all the early exposure that's led to KCP being such a polarizing player. He played a lot even as a 19 YO rookie. Coaches play him because he always hustles to the max on both ends. He was a fine 2 against the Bulls in the last game. Another night he'll make you cringe when he eyes the long shot. Still, NBA people outside of Detroit have noticed the excellence of his defensive game.

Bullock was a later pick, but still a 1st rounder. Considered a good shooting prospect when he came out of NC. I agree, only his third year?! Good athlete who has shown the ability to make shots. A willing defender. Hope he makes that Phoenix trade just that much better. Bullock is older, but hardly old.

They did come into different situations. Their situation is alike in that both are players in their third years trying to find their way in the toughest league there is. Some players are so special that they come into the league and play their game right away. A good many have to go through a period of development and adjustment. I think these two are alike in that regard as well.

[hoophabit]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but why wouldn't they be? Both certainly possess some special talent, and are very young in the league. Certainly, everyone doesn't make it, but it has always seemed very hard to tell exactly who will figure out a way to make their game work. I think you have to consider both McDermott and Gordon as fine prospects.

[rmfc]

IMO, Bullock's ceiling on this team is taking over the Meeks role (not the currwnt one where he sits on the bench all the time or the onext where he gets lit up D-League quality players when he is on the court).

I'd be glad if Bullock can reach that level because that would mean that SVG can just focus on getting that all important backup PG.

[ComboGuardCity]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but why wouldn't they be? Both certainly possess some special talent, and are very young in the league. Certainly, everyone doesn't make it, but it has always seemed very hard to tell exactly who will figure out a way to make their game work. I think you have to consider both McDermott and Gordon as fine prospects.

But one is closer to a finished product than the other. That's my point. One was a teenager last year and the other finished up 4 years of college. There is more the experience than NBA experience

[ComboGuardCity]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but why wouldn't they be? Both certainly possess some special talent, and are very young in the league. Certainly, everyone doesn't make it, but it has always seemed very hard to tell exactly who will figure out a way to make their game work. I think you have to consider both McDermott and Gordon as fine prospects.

But one is closer to a finished product than the other. That's my point. One was a teenager last year and the other finished up 4 years of college. There is more the experience than NBA experience

[Todd3]

You touched on a good point here though, how both players are in their same 3rd season, yet that is often viewed positively for KCP being young/inexperienced with potential, but often viewed negatively for Bullock, as in if he hasn't succeeded yet by his 3rd year then he must just be a career 10th man. Which makes no sense in reality, because the only actual difference is one got drafted to a lotto team that could give him an opportunity from day one, and the other got drafted to a contender and never got an opportunity until now. But there is no reason Bullock shouldn't be viewed in the same way in terms of potential because he is only in his 3rd season too.

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

Yes, why not?

[hoophabit]

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but why wouldn't they be? Both certainly possess some special talent, and are very young in the league. Certainly, everyone doesn't make it, but it has always seemed very hard to tell exactly who will figure out a way to make their game work. I think you have to consider both McDermott and Gordon as fine prospects.

But one is closer to a finished product than the other. That's my point. One was a teenager last year and the other finished up 4 years of college. There is more the experience than NBA experience

I won't argue against that. If we're talking ceiling, sure the younger guys get more benefit of the doubt. Not the only experience, but the most relevant.

[Todd3]

So McDermott and Aaron Gordon should also be viewed the same way? Both second year players.

I know this wasn't addressed to me, but why wouldn't they be? Both certainly possess some special talent, and are very young in the league. Certainly, everyone doesn't make it, but it has always seemed very hard to tell exactly who will figure out a way to make their game work. I think you have to consider both McDermott and Gordon as fine prospects.

But one is closer to a finished product than the other. That's my point. One was a teenager last year and the other finished up 4 years of college. There is more the experience than NBA experience

If difference in college experience is the point you're trying to make, Bullock only played 1 more year in college than KCP and both have 3 yrs NBA experience, so how does that apply to their situations?

KCP technically has more overall experience, having played ~7,000 minutes of NBA ball in addition to 2 yrs college ball, whereas Bullock has only played ~1,000 minutes professional plus 3 yrs college.

So going by experience, wouldn't that make KCP the one closer to a finished product and Bullock the one with more yet to be tapped potential?