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Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM

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Re: Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM 

Post#161 » by ORL_on_FIRE » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:16 pm

Obviously if it meant getting rid of Dipo to keep Fournier I wouldn't want that. Hopefully we can keep both.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM 

Post#162 » by NBlue » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:26 pm

Tron Carter- wrote:Obviously if it meant getting rid of Dipo to keep Fournier I wouldn't want that. Hopefully we can keep both.


Agreed on all counts. They both bring something unique to the table and they are both about the same age. Dipo's ability to defend at a high level clearly sets him apart from Evan though Evan at this point is clearly the better shooter. They are both inconsistent at playmaking.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM 

Post#163 » by fendilim » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:34 am

zelenooq wrote:Forget hezonja, I am talking about fournier only
You agree he could pass more,fournier don't pass the ball,fournier is ball stopper


Mario is a better passer than Fournier. But we need someone who can create shots. Unfortunately, right now Evan is much better at doing that. He isn't as nice to watch as Mario, but Evan is more crafty and quite honestly, less turnover prone than Mario. Mario has terrible ball handling skills for the NBA.

That's what we agree
Skiles always talk about ball movement, so that is obviously not what skiles want from fournier
If that's not what Skiles want from Fournier, then he should have benched Forunier already, or played him sparingly like his boy Jennings whom he traded for in exchange for Tobias.

Second,I bet skiles wants him to shoot bazzer on the end of quarter
Something every player do because if he scores it can help team, right? Right
When player in team kind of game (like basketball, soccer, football or waterpollo) play selfish and doesn't want to help team he could be Michael Jordan he will hurts his team
So,yeah,fournier is better player than hezonja (for my opinion not much but that is my opinion)
But hezonja is better player for team
And numbers proof that
Lines with fournier with others and lines with hezonja
Numbers don't lie ;)

Numbers dont lie?? Oh please.. lets not kid our self there. Its not all about the numbers. Shane Battier had one of the best +/- in the league, almost top 5 along with the guys of lebron, but does that qualify him as a superstar? jeff Foster was once the best rebounder per36 minutes in the league. or more recently, Anthony Randolph who was a advanced statistic monster, where is he now? There are a lot of statistics anomaly in the league. The Rockets and the Sixers heavily rely on statistics when acquiring players...

Not everything is about the number. Fournier and Hezonja are good players, but Evan is clearly more reliable than Mario right now. His ability to create shots, compared to Mario, is actually vital for a team that doesn't have one of the leagues best shot creator.

Try again maybe next year, but Mario is clearly limited to his role now because of his limitations as an NBA player right now. If he was better handling the ball or defends better, I'm sure Skiles won't hesitate to play him.
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM 

Post#164 » by zelenooq » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:32 am

Not +/- numbers, I hate that stat
I said about offensive and defensive numbers, with Mario mostly over 100 offensive and near 90 defensive
And I agree, fournier is better with ballhandling, so he could attack rim better
But as I said,no matter mario now, fournier is too much ball stopper, should pass more
Not only last pass for assist but ball movement like AG and mario do
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Re: Game Thread: Magic (34-45, 12-27 Away) @ Heat (46-33, 27-13 Home) ROUND 2 4/10 6PM 

Post#165 » by zelenooq » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:32 am

And last night fournier has some ball movement and orlando played better

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