Hands11 caught trying to rehydrate the sponge (credit to Sluggerface)

[BigA]

Just from an outside POV the phone idea makes sense with the grammatical issues. Autocorrect and typos aren't uncommon if one was a phone poster and one on a PC at home. It makes sense, and is just so fantastic.

I nominate bondom34 for the RealGM hands11 Investigation Commission.

[bondom34]

Just from an outside POV the phone idea makes sense with the grammatical issues. Autocorrect and typos aren't uncommon if one was a phone poster and one on a PC at home. It makes sense, and is just so fantastic.

I nominate bondom34 for the RealGM hands11 Investigation Commission.

Caught with my hands in the cookie jar.

[pineappleheadindc]

We need an investigatory commission (e.g., the 9/11 commission, etc).

Who volunteers to be members? Submit your resume to Bondom.

[BigA]

Just tracking the number of theories raised in this thread is getting complicated. For example, hands 11 theories positing mental illness/impairment now have a few sub-theories: multiple personality disorder and "a cry for help."

We'll need some sort of flow chart to keep track pretty soon. Here's a start (sorry I don't know how to indent):

I. Primary Hypothesis: hands11 and milellie111 Are the Same Person

A. Method and technique

1. Devices and ISPs kept separate
2. Established identities over a long period of time, prior to hands11's banning from RealGM
3. Level of skill and deviousness exhibited

a. Considerable skill and deviousness: The two identities had styles and tones that were distinguishable to the point where most RealGM Wizboard posters were (or remain) convinced that hands11 and milellie111 are different people
b. Not particularly skillful or devious: Some Wizboard posters claim that they have long known; something like Sluggerface's key discovery of the smoking gun plagiarism from hands11's Bullets Forever post to milellie111's Wizboard post might have happened earlier if there were more members who posted on both boards

B. Motive

1. Artistic expression
2. Pure joy of trolling
3. Anger/resentment against Wizboard
4. Mental impairment/illness

a. Multiple personalities
b. "Cry for help"

5. Higher level conspiracy/hoaxing

a. Ernie Grunfeld, an Ernie Grunfeld relative, or Monumental employee responsible for both identities and perhaps others
b. doc, Ed Wood, WizNasty, other board member are responsible (first two have denied involvement)

II. Alternate Hypothesis: hands11 and milellie111 Are Different People

A. Evidence: different interpretation of what is summarized in I.A.3.a above; style, grammar, outlook sufficiently different that the two identities cannot be the same

B. What's Really Going On Then?

1. Two trolls with similar outlooks: millellie111 plagiarized out of convenience
2. Malicious intent: millellie111 set up hands11 with plagairism

[fishercob]

I'd like to see a Ted's Take post about this. Then I'd die happy.

[AFM]

No one gonna mention our noble mod "NATE33" is 3X (HANDS11)? Do the pythagorean math. It's plain to see if you look

[truth18]

Thread of the year.

[fishercob]

A recent hands11 post at BulletsForever: There's no way he's millie, is there???? The rambling, the abbreviations, etc. Millie never posted like this.

We are the home of Gilbert Gungate. That's what most fans know the Wizards as. And a perennial bottom dweller for 30 years. Think GSW or LAC of old. Thats right. Both those franchises sucked forever and where jokes. Blown picks. Bad trades. All of it. Hell we got Gil and Webber from GS. LAC were horrible for the longest time before Blake and CP3 and Doc. Hell, even with them, remember their owner ? But with some luck, franchises turn it around.

We made two 2nd round appearances. That started to get people attention but its not enough. People are still waiting for them to be consistently good before they jump on board. This fall back year won't help. We can see that from loyal fans here. Not even they believe. You think the average fan would ?

But they will rise again next year. Count on it.

You have to remember. Lots of fans are just partial NBA fans. They don't even have a home team. They just watch sometimes and because of that, they tend to watch whoever is a top 3 teams. Those fans are watching GSW right now. They were Lakers fans. The ones with a little more basketball knowledge are also watching SAS. CA fans are still in love with the Lakers and some part time fans are tending toward the Clippers but Lakers fans are like Redskins fans from 20 years ago. They will always be fans. Then you have your KD fans. Then the LeBroners. Boston fans are die hards that pass down a legend to titles and one kind of recently with RA, PP and KG. Hell, MIA even has some lingering but because it was a LeBron arrival for title pickings group, most are probably back to CLE, except the lingering Wade fans that became Wade fans back when Wade was the ****. TOR fans that where Bosh fans are watching TOR again. We know about TOR fans. Loyal and hopeful to the end.

That's a good chunk of the fans floating around right there. 7-8 teams. Then you have the NY fans who are kind of quiet right now waiting for Zen to get them there but probably with half a heart waiting for him to return to LA. NY has has a rough 10-15 years. Melo dreams never happened. They are in Redskin territory. Once great, but its been a long time.

Washington isn't even on anyone's radar yet. They most likely started to reach some exposure because of Gil and then they watched it all blow up over Gungate. To the average fan, Washington might look something like IND after the brawl of 2004 when they had Reggie fans only Reggie never went mental.

Its been only since 2010 when they got the #1 pick and got Wall. Then dreams of Ves that never happened. The Beal draft that we all loved but he has been to injured his whole career. Otto was was a pick we liked but not a great draft class. Solid citizen Otto. Good dude. Solid player but not what people expect of a top 3 target. Two 2nd round appearances. No big name coach to speak of. Oubre is a nice 20 year old pick no one outside of DC knows about but you just wait. Kid has something. Now a missed playoffs. From Gungate to that, just not enough to move to needle for the average fan. Hell. Home some home town fans can't even get sold. Now they added Morris. Still not enough.

But land KD. Make it to the ECF. Maybe a title. Oh trust me. Fans will start to rally. Now do it two years in a row and we will be up in LAC territory.

But to reach the masses and life longers, you have to do it for a long time. You need multiple titles. Something like a three peak or 4 titles in 6-7 years. Or something like SAS with 20 years of success. Hell, they are the most underrated best franchise in the league. They just didn't start early enough like Boston.

We are just scratching the surface with Wall, Beal, Otto, Oubre, Morris and Gortat. But with KD, the window opens. A nice 5 year run of that, and Washington Basketball will be on the map. Just like GS is. But not even GS as good as they are is a Boston or LAL or SAS. They takes decades.

[JWizmentality]

A recent hands11 post at BulletsForever: There's no way he's millie, is there???? The rambling, the abbreviations, etc. Millie never posted like this.

We are the home of Gilbert Gungate. That's what most fans know the Wizards as. And a perennial bottom dweller for 30 years. Think GSW or LAC of old. Thats right. Both those franchises sucked forever and where jokes. Blown picks. Bad trades. All of it. Hell we got Gil and Webber from GS. LAC were horrible for the longest time before Blake and CP3 and Doc. Hell, even with them, remember their owner ? But with some luck, franchises turn it around.

We made two 2nd round appearances. That started to get people attention but its not enough. People are still waiting for them to be consistently good before they jump on board. This fall back year won't help. We can see that from loyal fans here. Not even they believe. You think the average fan would ?

But they will rise again next year. Count on it.

You have to remember. Lots of fans are just partial NBA fans. They don't even have a home team. They just watch sometimes and because of that, they tend to watch whoever is a top 3 teams. Those fans are watching GSW right now. They were Lakers fans. The ones with a little more basketball knowledge are also watching SAS. CA fans are still in love with the Lakers and some part time fans are tending toward the Clippers but Lakers fans are like Redskins fans from 20 years ago. They will always be fans. Then you have your KD fans. Then the LeBroners. Boston fans are die hards that pass down a legend to titles and one kind of recently with RA, PP and KG. Hell, MIA even has some lingering but because it was a LeBron arrival for title pickings group, most are probably back to CLE, except the lingering Wade fans that became Wade fans back when Wade was the ****. TOR fans that where Bosh fans are watching TOR again. We know about TOR fans. Loyal and hopeful to the end.

That's a good chunk of the fans floating around right there. 7-8 teams. Then you have the NY fans who are kind of quiet right now waiting for Zen to get them there but probably with half a heart waiting for him to return to LA. NY has has a rough 10-15 years. Melo dreams never happened. They are in Redskin territory. Once great, but its been a long time.

Washington isn't even on anyone's radar yet. They most likely started to reach some exposure because of Gil and then they watched it all blow up over Gungate. To the average fan, Washington might look something like IND after the brawl of 2004 when they had Reggie fans only Reggie never went mental.

Its been only since 2010 when they got the #1 pick and got Wall. Then dreams of Ves that never happened. The Beal draft that we all loved but he has been to injured his whole career. Otto was was a pick we liked but not a great draft class. Solid citizen Otto. Good dude. Solid player but not what people expect of a top 3 target. Two 2nd round appearances. No big name coach to speak of. Oubre is a nice 20 year old pick no one outside of DC knows about but you just wait. Kid has something. Now a missed playoffs. From Gungate to that, just not enough to move to needle for the average fan. Hell. Home some home town fans can't even get sold. Now they added Morris. Still not enough.

But land KD. Make it to the ECF. Maybe a title. Oh trust me. Fans will start to rally. Now do it two years in a row and we will be up in LAC territory.

But to reach the masses and life longers, you have to do it for a long time. You need multiple titles. Something like a three peak or 4 titles in 6-7 years. Or something like SAS with 20 years of success. Hell, they are the most underrated best franchise in the league. They just didn't start early enough like Boston.

We are just scratching the surface with Wall, Beal, Otto, Oubre, Morris and Gortat. But with KD, the window opens. A nice 5 year run of that, and Washington Basketball will be on the map. Just like GS is. But not even GS as good as they are is a Boston or LAL or SAS. They takes decades.

Sorry that's all Milellie. Since he's apparently dyslexic, I'll consider this a moment when he's off the meds.

Sent from my ASUS_Z00AD using Tapatalk

[cammac]

Frankly enjoyed Hands11 missed him after he was banned had good dialogues with him we disagreed on many things but was never offensive to me.

[closg00]

Frankly enjoyed Hands11 missed him after he was banned had good dialogues with him we disagreed on many things but was never offensive to me.

You can visit him at Bulletsforever,he setup shop over there with hundreds of posts dedicated to shielding Ernie from being held accountable...for anything. Pretty sure he set-up sock-puppets too. Man, how does this guy have the time?

[montestewart]

A recent hands11 post at BulletsForever: There's no way he's millie, is there???? The rambling, the abbreviations, etc. Millie never posted like this.

We are the home of Gilbert Gungate. That's what most fans know the Wizards as. And a perennial bottom dweller for 30 years. Think GSW or LAC of old. Thats right. Both those franchises sucked forever and where jokes. Blown picks. Bad trades. All of it. Hell we got Gil and Webber from GS. LAC were horrible for the longest time before Blake and CP3 and Doc. Hell, even with them, remember their owner ? But with some luck, franchises turn it around.

We made two 2nd round appearances. That started to get people attention but its not enough. People are still waiting for them to be consistently good before they jump on board. This fall back year won't help. We can see that from loyal fans here. Not even they believe. You think the average fan would ?

But they will rise again next year. Count on it.

You have to remember. Lots of fans are just partial NBA fans. They don't even have a home team. They just watch sometimes and because of that, they tend to watch whoever is a top 3 teams. Those fans are watching GSW right now. They were Lakers fans. The ones with a little more basketball knowledge are also watching SAS. CA fans are still in love with the Lakers and some part time fans are tending toward the Clippers but Lakers fans are like Redskins fans from 20 years ago. They will always be fans. Then you have your KD fans. Then the LeBroners. Boston fans are die hards that pass down a legend to titles and one kind of recently with RA, PP and KG. Hell, MIA even has some lingering but because it was a LeBron arrival for title pickings group, most are probably back to CLE, except the lingering Wade fans that became Wade fans back when Wade was the ****. TOR fans that where Bosh fans are watching TOR again. We know about TOR fans. Loyal and hopeful to the end.

That's a good chunk of the fans floating around right there. 7-8 teams. Then you have the NY fans who are kind of quiet right now waiting for Zen to get them there but probably with half a heart waiting for him to return to LA. NY has has a rough 10-15 years. Melo dreams never happened. They are in Redskin territory. Once great, but its been a long time.

Washington isn't even on anyone's radar yet. They most likely started to reach some exposure because of Gil and then they watched it all blow up over Gungate. To the average fan, Washington might look something like IND after the brawl of 2004 when they had Reggie fans only Reggie never went mental.

Its been only since 2010 when they got the #1 pick and got Wall. Then dreams of Ves that never happened. The Beal draft that we all loved but he has been to injured his whole career. Otto was was a pick we liked but not a great draft class. Solid citizen Otto. Good dude. Solid player but not what people expect of a top 3 target. Two 2nd round appearances. No big name coach to speak of. Oubre is a nice 20 year old pick no one outside of DC knows about but you just wait. Kid has something. Now a missed playoffs. From Gungate to that, just not enough to move to needle for the average fan. Hell. Home some home town fans can't even get sold. Now they added Morris. Still not enough.

But land KD. Make it to the ECF. Maybe a title. Oh trust me. Fans will start to rally. Now do it two years in a row and we will be up in LAC territory.

But to reach the masses and life longers, you have to do it for a long time. You need multiple titles. Something like a three peak or 4 titles in 6-7 years. Or something like SAS with 20 years of success. Hell, they are the most underrated best franchise in the league. They just didn't start early enough like Boston.

We are just scratching the surface with Wall, Beal, Otto, Oubre, Morris and Gortat. But with KD, the window opens. A nice 5 year run of that, and Washington Basketball will be on the map. Just like GS is. But not even GS as good as they are is a Boston or LAL or SAS. They takes decades.

[YouTube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6CqiShbBgo[/YouTube]

[TheSecretWeapon]

A recent hands11 post at BulletsForever: There's no way he's millie, is there???? The rambling, the abbreviations, etc. Millie never posted like this.

We are the home of Gilbert Gungate. That's what most fans know the Wizards as. And a perennial bottom dweller for 30 years. Think GSW or LAC of old. Thats right. Both those franchises sucked forever and where jokes. Blown picks. Bad trades. All of it. Hell we got Gil and Webber from GS. LAC were horrible for the longest time before Blake and CP3 and Doc. Hell, even with them, remember their owner ? But with some luck, franchises turn it around.

We made two 2nd round appearances. That started to get people attention but its not enough. People are still waiting for them to be consistently good before they jump on board. This fall back year won't help. We can see that from loyal fans here. Not even they believe. You think the average fan would ?

But they will rise again next year. Count on it.

You have to remember. Lots of fans are just partial NBA fans. They don't even have a home team. They just watch sometimes and because of that, they tend to watch whoever is a top 3 teams. Those fans are watching GSW right now. They were Lakers fans. The ones with a little more basketball knowledge are also watching SAS. CA fans are still in love with the Lakers and some part time fans are tending toward the Clippers but Lakers fans are like Redskins fans from 20 years ago. They will always be fans. Then you have your KD fans. Then the LeBroners. Boston fans are die hards that pass down a legend to titles and one kind of recently with RA, PP and KG. Hell, MIA even has some lingering but because it was a LeBron arrival for title pickings group, most are probably back to CLE, except the lingering Wade fans that became Wade fans back when Wade was the ****. TOR fans that where Bosh fans are watching TOR again. We know about TOR fans. Loyal and hopeful to the end.

That's a good chunk of the fans floating around right there. 7-8 teams. Then you have the NY fans who are kind of quiet right now waiting for Zen to get them there but probably with half a heart waiting for him to return to LA. NY has has a rough 10-15 years. Melo dreams never happened. They are in Redskin territory. Once great, but its been a long time.

Washington isn't even on anyone's radar yet. They most likely started to reach some exposure because of Gil and then they watched it all blow up over Gungate. To the average fan, Washington might look something like IND after the brawl of 2004 when they had Reggie fans only Reggie never went mental.

Its been only since 2010 when they got the #1 pick and got Wall. Then dreams of Ves that never happened. The Beal draft that we all loved but he has been to injured his whole career. Otto was was a pick we liked but not a great draft class. Solid citizen Otto. Good dude. Solid player but not what people expect of a top 3 target. Two 2nd round appearances. No big name coach to speak of. Oubre is a nice 20 year old pick no one outside of DC knows about but you just wait. Kid has something. Now a missed playoffs. From Gungate to that, just not enough to move to needle for the average fan. Hell. Home some home town fans can't even get sold. Now they added Morris. Still not enough.

But land KD. Make it to the ECF. Maybe a title. Oh trust me. Fans will start to rally. Now do it two years in a row and we will be up in LAC territory.

But to reach the masses and life longers, you have to do it for a long time. You need multiple titles. Something like a three peak or 4 titles in 6-7 years. Or something like SAS with 20 years of success. Hell, they are the most underrated best franchise in the league. They just didn't start early enough like Boston.

We are just scratching the surface with Wall, Beal, Otto, Oubre, Morris and Gortat. But with KD, the window opens. A nice 5 year run of that, and Washington Basketball will be on the map. Just like GS is. But not even GS as good as they are is a Boston or LAL or SAS. They takes decades.

Was this in the comments section, or was it one of those fan posts? If it's the latter, they may want to reconsider their policies.

[nate33]

No one gonna mention our noble mod "NATE33" is 3X (HANDS11)? Do the pythagorean math. It's plain to see if you look

Damn.


Now I'm going to have to go kill myself.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Frankly enjoyed Hands11 missed him after he was banned had good dialogues with him we disagreed on many things but was never offensive to me.

Michigan?

My son is at Michigan.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Just from an outside POV the phone idea makes sense with the grammatical issues. Autocorrect and typos aren't uncommon if one was a phone poster and one on a PC at home. It makes sense, and is just so fantastic.

I nominate bondom34 for the RealGM hands11 Investigation Commission.

I second.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Just from an outside POV the phone idea makes sense with the grammatical issues. Autocorrect and typos aren't uncommon if one was a phone poster and one on a PC at home. It makes sense, and is just so fantastic.

I nominate bondom34 for the RealGM hands11 Investigation Commission.

Caught with my hands in the cookie jar.

Clever attempt to insinuate you're actually hands to weasel out of your investigative duty.

More to the point...cookies? I want cookies.

[cammac]

Frankly enjoyed Hands11 missed him after he was banned had good dialogues with him we disagreed on many things but was never offensive to me.

Michigan?

My son is at Michigan.

Was in China at the time now back in Canada near Niagara Falls.

[AFM]

No one gonna mention our noble mod "NATE33" is 3X (HANDS11)? Do the pythagorean math. It's plain to see if you look

Damn.


Now I'm going to have to go kill myself.

Mission accomplished. Tsherkin is next.

[TheSecretWeapon]

No one gonna mention our noble mod "NATE33" is 3X (HANDS11)? Do the pythagorean math. It's plain to see if you look

Damn.


Now I'm going to have to go kill myself.

Mission accomplished. Tsherkin is next.

Your sense of priorities is all wrong.