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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#81 » by bigfnjoe96 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:06 pm

I pray we don't give Bazemore 60M.

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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#82 » by GONYK » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:06 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:honestly what player does that mean we will no longer go after.

If it means we wont go after that empty stat loser Rondo then I am all for it.


They will be looking for smart/quick learners, hardworking, unselfish and determined players.

Not trying to call guys out that much but I think guys like Jennings, Mayo, Jeff Green, Al Jefferson, Eric Gordon, Dion Waiters will not be getting a call from Phil Jackson for an interview.

Rondo could fit in that boat I suppose, but I think we will look into him, Melo would be happy, and if he comes at a 2 year deal for 10-13 mil then I think he is still a bargain and we could then still go out and spend on a guy like Batum or Turner/Fournier + another guy. Not the biggest fan of Rondo but he is still talented and could fit.


We should be giving Al Jefferson a look if he's coming at a discount.
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#83 » by Scalabrine » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:21 pm

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mpharris36 wrote:honestly what player does that mean we will no longer go after.

If it means we wont go after that empty stat loser Rondo then I am all for it.


They will be looking for smart/quick learners, hardworking, unselfish and determined players.

Not trying to call guys out that much but I think guys like Jennings, Mayo, Jeff Green, Al Jefferson, Eric Gordon, Dion Waiters will not be getting a call from Phil Jackson for an interview.

Rondo could fit in that boat I suppose, but I think we will look into him, Melo would be happy, and if he comes at a 2 year deal for 10-13 mil then I think he is still a bargain and we could then still go out and spend on a guy like Batum or Turner/Fournier + another guy. Not the biggest fan of Rondo but he is still talented and could fit.


We should be giving Al Jefferson a look if he's coming at a discount.


How much of a discount?!

I really dont see how he fits here... at all.
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Post#84 » by KnickswiththeKnack » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:28 pm

I do chuckle how wound up y'all get over a system though.
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#85 » by miamiKnick305 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:40 pm

Bazemore is complete junk, what the hecl to people see in that dude to want to give him 60-mil, a couple of year's ago he was second worse player only behind Eddy Curry and hes avg today
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Post#86 » by Manhattan Project » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:50 pm

Well hey, at least we know we're tanking next year...
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#87 » by malik959 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:54 pm

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whocares1 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Sign Bazemore for 4/60 and Jennings for 1/10. Bring back LT and Gallo on the cheap. Hope that D-Will opts in (so we can get his early bird rights), and Afflalo opts out. Just let Jose expire after next season and get him officially off our books. Keep a max slot open for Westbrook in 2017 (his max will start at a little over 32 mil/yr).

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Umm

-Jennings is not getting just a one year deal
-D-Will is not opting back in.
-WB is not coming here.

Why isn't Jennings getting a 1 year deal? What has he done this season to deserve a multi-year contract? You convince him to take this 1 year deal to get his stock up next season and cash out in 2017 FA...exactly what the Kings just did with Rondo this year. We can offer him a starting spot and a ton of minutes, hardly any other team can.

How do u know that D-Will won't opt back in? The cap is estimated to increase to over 108 mil next offseason. D-Will can opt in and then make more money next summer than he would this summer if he continues to play well.

If KD leaves this summer, then I believe that WB will as well. Where else would he go? The Lakers? I do believe that we'd be near the top of his list if we're competitive next season. WB is the type of dude who would love the Garden stage. NYC could be his. He's already a big fan of KP. The triangle is starving for a player like him. He fits in perfectly.


To me Basemore is nothing more than a 6th man or even a 4th option. I'm not willing to pay a player 15+ only to get 10ppg. We might as well beg for Affalo to stay. D. Will has stated that he loves playing for NY even with their ups and downs so I don't see a problem resigning him. He has shown a lot of improvement and knows how to get to the line. I would love to see what he and Wrotten can do.

As far as Jennings a one year deal on your home team is a good thing. Injuries have kept him from really competing and this is his chance to prove his worth. It would be a low risk high reward and he can battle for starting point with Wrotten and Grant.

Give me small contracts this year and we can put in work for a max cat next year.
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#88 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:56 pm

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GONYK wrote:
Scalabrine wrote:
They will be looking for smart/quick learners, hardworking, unselfish and determined players.

Not trying to call guys out that much but I think guys like Jennings, Mayo, Jeff Green, Al Jefferson, Eric Gordon, Dion Waiters will not be getting a call from Phil Jackson for an interview.

Rondo could fit in that boat I suppose, but I think we will look into him, Melo would be happy, and if he comes at a 2 year deal for 10-13 mil then I think he is still a bargain and we could then still go out and spend on a guy like Batum or Turner/Fournier + another guy. Not the biggest fan of Rondo but he is still talented and could fit.


We should be giving Al Jefferson a look if he's coming at a discount.


How much of a discount?!

I really dont see how he fits here... at all.



As a back up for Lopez and go to scorer off the bench. Pretty much what he does for Charlotte now.

He would definitely be able to play in the low post in the triangle too
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Post#89 » by Marty McFly » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:13 pm

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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#90 » by Triple C » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:23 pm

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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#91 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:27 pm

malik959 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
whocares1 wrote:
Umm

-Jennings is not getting just a one year deal
-D-Will is not opting back in.
-WB is not coming here.

Why isn't Jennings getting a 1 year deal? What has he done this season to deserve a multi-year contract? You convince him to take this 1 year deal to get his stock up next season and cash out in 2017 FA...exactly what the Kings just did with Rondo this year. We can offer him a starting spot and a ton of minutes, hardly any other team can.

How do u know that D-Will won't opt back in? The cap is estimated to increase to over 108 mil next offseason. D-Will can opt in and then make more money next summer than he would this summer if he continues to play well.

If KD leaves this summer, then I believe that WB will as well. Where else would he go? The Lakers? I do believe that we'd be near the top of his list if we're competitive next season. WB is the type of dude who would love the Garden stage. NYC could be his. He's already a big fan of KP. The triangle is starving for a player like him. He fits in perfectly.


To me Basemore is nothing more than a 6th man or even a 4th option. I'm not willing to pay a player 15+ only to get 10ppg. We might as well beg for Affalo to stay. D. Will has stated that he loves playing for NY even with their ups and downs so I don't see a problem resigning him. He has shown a lot of improvement and knows how to get to the line. I would love to see what he and Wrotten can do.

As far as Jennings a one year deal on your home team is a good thing. Injuries have kept him from really competing and this is his chance to prove his worth. It would be a low risk high reward and he can battle for starting point with Wrotten and Grant.

Give me small contracts this year and we can put in work for a max cat next year.

If not Bazemore, then who do y'all want? Guys like Batum, Derozan, Beal, Fournier etc are all huge longshots. Bazemore is like a Robin Lopez...his impact goes beyond just the stats. 12-15 mil/yr could very well be what u end up paying for him in today's NBA. Guys aren't looking to give out discounts, especially not to the 30 win Knicks. You might as well pay him now, because next summer a player on his level would cost even more. If Afflalo opted in and we continued to roll with him instead until 2017 FA, then we'd be looking for a PG and a SG when the salary cap has jumped up again to around 108 mil making these players even more expensive. Bazemore would be your SG for the next 4 years. In this plan, he would be the 4th option if it ever actually happened.

WB: 1st option
KP: 2nd option
Melo: 3rd option
Bazemore: 4th option
Rolo: 5th option

What small contract guys are realistically getting this team into the playoffs? There won't be any max player coming here if we miss the postseason yet again when the goal was to make the playoffs.
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#92 » by moocow007 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:35 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
malik959 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Why isn't Jennings getting a 1 year deal? What has he done this season to deserve a multi-year contract? You convince him to take this 1 year deal to get his stock up next season and cash out in 2017 FA...exactly what the Kings just did with Rondo this year. We can offer him a starting spot and a ton of minutes, hardly any other team can.

How do u know that D-Will won't opt back in? The cap is estimated to increase to over 108 mil next offseason. D-Will can opt in and then make more money next summer than he would this summer if he continues to play well.

If KD leaves this summer, then I believe that WB will as well. Where else would he go? The Lakers? I do believe that we'd be near the top of his list if we're competitive next season. WB is the type of dude who would love the Garden stage. NYC could be his. He's already a big fan of KP. The triangle is starving for a player like him. He fits in perfectly.


To me Basemore is nothing more than a 6th man or even a 4th option. I'm not willing to pay a player 15+ only to get 10ppg. We might as well beg for Affalo to stay. D. Will has stated that he loves playing for NY even with their ups and downs so I don't see a problem resigning him. He has shown a lot of improvement and knows how to get to the line. I would love to see what he and Wrotten can do.

As far as Jennings a one year deal on your home team is a good thing. Injuries have kept him from really competing and this is his chance to prove his worth. It would be a low risk high reward and he can battle for starting point with Wrotten and Grant.

Give me small contracts this year and we can put in work for a max cat next year.

If not Bazemore, then who do y'all want? Guys like Batum, Derozan, Beal, Fournier etc are all huge longshots. Bazemore is like a Robin Lopez...his impact goes beyond just the stats. 12-15 mil/yr could very well be what u end up paying for him in today's NBA. Guys aren't looking to give out discounts, especially not to the 30 win Knicks. You might as well pay him now, because next summer a player on his level would cost even more. If Afflalo opted in and we continued to roll with him instead until 2017 FA, then we'd be looking for a PG and a SG when the salary cap has jumped up again to around 108 mil making these players even more expensive. Bazemore would be your SG for the next 4 years. In this plan, he would be the 4th option if it ever actually happened.

WB: 1st option
KP: 2nd option
Melo: 3rd option
Bazemore: 4th option
Rolo: 5th option

What small contract guys are realistically getting this team into the playoffs? There won't be any max player coming here if we miss the postseason yet again when the goal was to make the playoffs.


Carmelo coming back and no rebuild I would like Wade for a short term max contract. Then you try to convince Lebron and CP3 to do that silly "brotherhood" thing in NY.

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Post#93 » by frothbrain » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:39 pm

bazemore is a good basketball player. do you invalids even watch games?
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Post#94 » by Jay10 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:40 pm

frothbrain wrote:bazemore is a good basketball player. do you invalids even watch games?


they want a team where everyone is an all-star. :lol:
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Post#95 » by BodyCount » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:08 pm

I'll presume Afflalo opts out. We just need to throw all the money we've got at DeRozan. If it's not enough Dolan should buy him a nice apartment where he can live while he's a Knick. Something fency. And let him use his boat if he has one. Whatever it takes lol.

I'm tired of listening how triangle is a system where all the good things happen cause everyone's touching the ball and how it's about team playing as one and other sh*t. No, what we need is what Bulls had and what Lakers had. A SG that will score a bunch and will take it in his hands and say, f*** the system, I'm taking over, when that needs to be said. Look at the amount of open looks Vujačič gets and how much he can score if he's actually got a day where he can hit something. He scores around 20 easily. And he's **** terrible.

Now Melo's played this year like I would expect from SF to play in this. Starts to remind me a bit of Pippen. Scores around 20, has some assists, plays some D, doesn't force it, and overall when you look at his stats, he does a bit of everything and works great. Only thing that he needs now is a SG that can score 25.

I don't really care if we get a PG if we somehow snatch Derozan, I'll be perfectly fine if Grant starts for us, if we blow all the money on derozan.

**** changing Afflalo with someone as average.
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Post#96 » by whocares1 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:10 pm

Jesus Christ. D Wade is NOT coming here. Durant is not coming here and neither is Westbrook.

I promise you D Will will opt out and will promptly bump this thread when he does @knickstape. Role players care about security more than anything. D Will will try to get a multi year deal somewhere and hopefully we can affordably retain him. You might have a point with Jennings but I can very well see him signing a multi year deal as well.
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Post#97 » by Jay10 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:12 pm

Westbrook > Durant on the Knicks

You would go into every game having the best backcourt player in the East every night.

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Post#98 » by Starks » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:15 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Incoming over reactions to something that literally every team does. Look for players who fit with the current roster and philosphy....


Nah man, this isn't about a team looking for players who fit the philosophy, this is Phil Jackson's senile ass being freaking obsessed with the freakin triangle.

Everytime I read something about the Knicks, it's about the damn triangle. I'm so fed up with this, this is not Chicago with MJ and Pippen, this is not the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq, this is today's Knicks and we have to get rid of this DAMN TRIANGLE PIPE DREAM ALREADY.

Now we're keeping Rambis as our HC because of the triangle? Phil is killing this team. Once again we hired some crazy ass persona who thinks he's bigger than life and is just fu cking us up with his stubbornness. History on repeat forever with this franchise.

Come on Phil, stop now, please resign.
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Re: Knicks will go after players who fit triangle 

Post#99 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:16 pm

BodyCount wrote:I'll presume Afflalo opts out. We just need to throw all the money we've got at DeRozan. If it's not enough Dolan should buy him a nice apartment where he can live while he's a Knick. Something fency. And let him use his boat if he has one. Whatever it takes lol.

I'm tired of listening how triangle is a system where all the good things happen cause everyone's touching the ball and how it's about team playing as one and other sh*t. No, what we need is what Bulls had and what Lakers had. A SG that will score a bunch and will take it in his hands and say, f*** the system, I'm taking over, when that needs to be said. Look at the amount of open looks Vujačič gets and how much he can score if he's actually got a day where he can hit something. He scores around 20 easily. And he's **** terrible.

Now Melo's played this year like I would expect from SF to play in this. Starts to remind me a bit of Pippen. Scores around 20, has some assists, plays some D, doesn't force it, and overall when you look at his stats, he does a bit of everything and works great. Only thing that he needs now is a SG that can score 25.

I don't really care if we get a PG if we somehow snatch Derozan, I'll be perfectly fine if Grant starts for us, if we get him.

**** changing Afflalo with someone as average.

Someone average is most likely what you're going to get this offseason. Holding out hope that we'll somehow snatch Derozan is just setting yourself up for major disappointment this offseason because the chances of it happening are slim to none.

Isn't the triangle a good thing if it can get a bum like Sasha 20 points easily like u said? I'm not a fan of our offense right now at all, but shouldn't we at least wait to see what the offense looks like with better talent? The triangle we've been seeing the last 2 years is the Jose Calderon led version of the triangle.
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Post#100 » by Jay10 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:19 pm

Starks wrote:
Knicksfan1992 wrote:Incoming over reactions to something that literally every team does. Look for players who fit with the current roster and philosphy....


Nah man, this isn't about a team looking for players who fit the philosophy, this is Phil Jackson's senile ass being freaking obsessed with the freakin triangle.

Everytime I read something about the Knicks, it's about the damn triangle. I'm so fed up with this, this is not Chicago with MJ and Pippen, this is not the Lakers with Kobe and Shaq, this is today's Knicks and we have to get rid of this DAMN TRIANGLE PIPE DREAM ALREADY.

Now we're keeping Rambis as our HC because of the triangle? Phil is killing this team. Once again we hired some crazy ass persona who thinks he's bigger than life and is just fu cking us up with his stubbornness.

Come on Phil, stop now, please resign.


The reason you continue to hear about the "triangle" is because of the media. They continue to ask the players about it every day. When have you ever heard a player or coach bring it up without being asked about it?

It's similar to hearing about Lebron and the Heat nonstop when they were together. The media will talk about it to the point where it becomes annoying.

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