Hassan Whiteside: Road To The Max

[IggieCC]

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Timophey gets more ball

[Chalm Down]

is it laughable to suggest that whiteside should be 3rd team all nba? Like, I think bougie and AD are gonna be the 2nd and 3rd team center selections, but if its between Drummond and whiteside, shouldn't whiteside get the nod? If you compare per 36 min stats, HW is 17 ppg,15 rpg,4.6 blks with a 25 per and Drummond is at 16 ppg, 15 rpg, 2.5 blks with a 21.5 per. Whitesides team is better, and I think at this point whiteside is the better player. Am I high?

Horford and Jordan will be in the conversation as well. Idk who will end up making it, but they will all probably get votes.

[Bishop45]

Goatside will probably get the ball more nex season, if he returns, I'm sure that will be a selling point. Timophey touches is probably more of a product of Cavs ball movement

[Flash4thewin]

Goatside will probably get the ball more nex season, if he returns, I'm sure that will be a selling point. Timophey touches is probably more of a product of Cavs ball movement

We have to remember that Bosh our max franchise center is returning next season. Its pretty unrealistic to think he will get the ball more with Bosh back.

[RexBoyWonder]

Big test for Hassan, starting playoffs against Big Al who gave him fits a bunch of times.

He has to contain him, can't let him get super comfortable.

[3ballbomber]

In the big picture, Goran and Hassan are a great foundation and we need to keep both. To have stability at the PG and C position is a huge recruiting plus. Any franchise player, be it either KD or LeBron, can play the 2,3 or 4 depending on the situation but PG and C are the positions that a free agent usually offers input on before agreeing on a contract. I feel very confident that having these 2 under long term contracts and their relative youth is something that many teams don't have and therefor plays in our favor.

What a strange idea. Why Goran and not Bosh or Wade ?

Surely Whiteside,Winslow, JRich and TJ are a great foundation.

Not really sure that Goran will be around here even as long as Wade is.

HOT TAKEEEEE: imo, Goran is more important to this team's success than dwade. His style fits this core more, and when hes allowed to be himself, most of the other key players also improve their play. IF the youg guys can carry more of the offensive load next year, I woudlnt mind seeing D-Wade come off the bench. This is coming from someone who adores D-Wade, but he really would be better suited as a 26 min a night playmaker going forward. too many cooks in the kitchen. and yeah, if boshs health holds up, hes definitly incuded in this. his game keeps evolving, and i think itll age well.

Wade showed that he could play most of the season & be healthy for the majority of it....what was his aim 73 games or something? and he got it, right! I don't think Dwyane is ready to come off the bench just yet. Especially not after this season. Wade i believe will always be a starter, but he does not necessarily have to play starters minutes.

Wade has also shown, this season, that he's not quite done being Batman for this team. As soon as he realizes he can no longer carry this team on a nightly basis like the good ol days (that i'm sure we all miss) the sooner he can adjust and move forward.

I agree though that at this stage Dragic has become a very important piece to this team. He pushes the tempo and made us top 10 in pace, he creates an environment of ball movement and sharing the rock wich has everybody improve and contribute more - this is why we are highly improved since ASG. I'm not quite sure why people here want him gone, i really don't.

[3ballbomber]

Big test for Hassan, starting playoffs against Big Al who gave him fits a bunch of times.

He has to contain him, can't let him get super comfortable.

A big test for Hassan. Consistency is key. The Playoffs are a different beast. The PO's is where we find out what players and teams are really made of. Let's see how Hassan handles this opportunity.

Young Wade proved he was a killer and a player that made everybody play well wich all equated to a better team. Wade was also HUNGRY, HUNGRY to prove doubters wrong. Hassan needs these same qualities and same motivation but at the same time be able to make his team and team mates better.

[HIF]

Whiteside is the biggest hope we have for the future.

I'd take him over anyone.

Feature him in the playoffs and teach him how to play against bully boy bigs.

[dolphinatik]

why does it seem at times the Heat go so far out of their way to not utilize this guy
we are going to win by only shooting jumpshots....well you see what had happened was...
Trying to use a 26 point lead to show u dont need to play an inside game anymore. Maybe that not what happened but even the non Heat commentators were puzzled why we abandoned the only thing that was working well for us.
Felt bad for the big fella too he was looking hard for that last rebound lol. If we dont get over ourselves we might not make it through the first round.

[HIF]

We NEED to build our new team around Whiteside.

He is unique.

[reignfire]

Whiteside is the biggest hope we have for the future.

I'd take him over anyone.

Feature him in the playoffs and teach him how to play against bully boy bigs.

Yeah guys like Motumbo and David Robinson could have been "taught" to guard Shaq. Shame they didn't.

I'm sure I could be taught to box out Drummond. I just need lessons, that's all.
The fact that he's 6'11 almost 300 lbs means nothing.

[KingDavid]

Just to remind you guys....Chris Bosh is still on the roster. I believe he makes $23 million next season. So you guys want us to sign Hassan for near max money to come off the bench?

Hm. Something to think about...

[RexBoyWonder]

Just to remind you guys....Chris Bosh is still on the roster. I believe he makes $23 million next season. So you guys want us to sign Hassan for near max money to come off the bench?

Hm. Something to think about...

1. There's a really possibility Bosh never comes back. In thatcase his salary goes off the books in 2017-2018 season.

2. Hassan is 6 years younger.

3. different skillsets. they didn't play well together before but we've made some changes and they might do much better going forward.

[DefenseWins]

This series vs the Hornets will be telling. Heat will put on their magnifying glasses on Hassan and how he responds in his first playoff series. Luckily he'll be in his hometown too, it may bring out the best in him.

[Bishop45]

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[CanesHeatFins]

Big test for Hassan, starting playoffs against Big Al who gave him fits a bunch of times.

He has to contain him, can't let him get super comfortable.

A big test for Hassan. Consistency is key. The Playoffs are a different beast. The PO's is where we find out what players and teams are really made of. Let's see how Hassan handles this opportunity.

Young Wade proved he was a killer and a player that made everybody play well wich all equated to a better team. Wade was also HUNGRY, HUNGRY to prove doubters wrong. Hassan needs these same qualities and same motivation but at the same time be able to make his team and team mates better.

I agree with you with the necessity to have a hungry star in his prime like young Wade was. But as a ball dominant guard, its easy to feed your hunger for fame, glory, and wins when your game isn't so dependent on other starving players to feed you like Whiteside has to deal with. They mostly only pass to him if he's in position to give them an immediate assist. Stoudamire gets more touches in the 1st 5 min of a game than hassan receives in 2 quarters of playing time.

Hassan's 2 year run as a top10 nba efficiency player should've earned him the right to at least receive Gerald Green and Henry Walker level touches by now. I'm hoping that everything changes once we invest big money with the young man. Cause I'm not looking forward to a another .500 level led Bosh team next yr. Don't mean to disrespect the golden cow, but the last two yrs with his lead we were just your typical average .500 team like his Toronto teams, and then instantly better the nanosecond he left.

[Durrrtysouth]

Dear Hassan,

Do you want to be an All-Star or do you want to be a legend? There are 30+ All-Stars every year, many we forget about. But legends we never forget. This is your time to cement yourself in history and in memories forever. Be a LEGEND.

Good luck in the Playoffs, we are all rooting for you.

Heat Nation

[Heat_Fan_87]

Just to remind you guys....Chris Bosh is still on the roster. I believe he makes $23 million next season. So you guys want us to sign Hassan for near max money to come off the bench?

Hm. Something to think about...

1. There's a really possibility Bosh never comes back. In thatcase his salary goes off the books in 2017-2018 season.

2. Hassan is 6 years younger.

3. different skillsets. they didn't play well together before but we've made some changes and they might do much better going forward.

chris bosh never playing again would be a worse case scenario. I think he plays again, but very scary. we would have a ton of capsapce in 2017 tho. could get durant and another star.

[3ballbomber]

Big test for Hassan, starting playoffs against Big Al who gave him fits a bunch of times.

He has to contain him, can't let him get super comfortable.

A big test for Hassan. Consistency is key. The Playoffs are a different beast. The PO's is where we find out what players and teams are really made of. Let's see how Hassan handles this opportunity.

Young Wade proved he was a killer and a player that made everybody play well wich all equated to a better team. Wade was also HUNGRY, HUNGRY to prove doubters wrong. Hassan needs these same qualities and same motivation but at the same time be able to make his team and team mates better.

I agree with you with the necessity to have a hungry star in his prime like young Wade was. But as a ball dominant guard, its easy to feed your hunger for fame, glory, and wins when your game isn't so dependent on other starving players to feed you like Whiteside has to deal with. They mostly only pass to him if he's in position to give them an immediate assist. Stoudamire gets more touches in the 1st 5 min of a game than hassan receives in 2 quarters of playing time.

Hassan's 2 year run as a top10 nba efficiency player should've earned him the right to at least receive Gerald Green and Henry Walker level touches by now. I'm hoping that everything changes once we invest big money with the young man. Cause I'm not looking forward to a another .500 level led Bosh team next yr. Don't mean to disrespect the golden cow, but the last two yrs with his lead we were just your typical average .500 team like his Toronto teams, and then instantly better the nanosecond he left.

I agree that it's some what easier to be able to do what you want on the court in the guard position but in Wade's defense, and as i stated above, he always made his team better. He fed the bigs like Shaq and made all his other team mates better being such a selfless player. Hassan must do all he can to get himself into good spots & positions to be able to get those lobs and passes more often than he is now. Yes he may have to work alot harder but this is what developing youngsters is all about. Wade earned his touches, He took Miami to the PO's in his 1st season, ECF in his 2nd and Finals in his 3rd. Hassan has to earn his touches. This is why how he performs in the playoffs will determine many things.

Wade was trusted w/ the ball in his hands simply because he was highly selfless and team oriented......Hassan has only really proven recently that he can be a team player & even then he is still learning the concept of less ego & self and more team and others. You can't give some players too much too soon, some just don't develop well that way & i believe this is our approach w/ Hassan.

I also agree that a Bosh lead team just wasn't cutting it. I reference alot his floor roll where he had his but near his face, after his missed game winner to describe the soft mentality/character he showed in that moment. The smiling & strange acts like that after losses and potential failed game winners displays nothing positive to our developing young players. Leaders should lead by example. That a*s sniffing moment topped it off for me.

During the Big 3 era we made Bosh get into a bad habit of staying outside the paint. Now he is a 3pt shooter and a jump shooter. No longer really wants to bang in the paint. I'd much rather the Bosh who wasn't afraid to get inside.

But to his defense he has not played w/ the team within our new quicker pace system so we don't know how much improved we could be w/ Chris in our new look offense. I think w/ his skill set he may be able to thrive in it better. He also must also believe in ball movement that has allowed us to improve significantly. No more feed the big dogs mentality. Chris must trust team ball. But again i agree, I don't want a Bosh lead Heat team just because his the highest paid player on the team. Until he can show aggressiveness, hunger and fight then he can take on that leadership role!

[HIF]

Just to remind you guys....Chris Bosh is still on the roster. I believe he makes $23 million next season. So you guys want us to sign Hassan for near max money to come off the bench?

Hm. Something to think about...

Yes we do.

I seem to remember that recently we had Wade on a near max contract but we still decided to sign Lebron and Bosh. That didn't turn out too badly.

I want the best team I can and Whiteside is part of that team. BTW It's not your money.