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The Next Coach (SCOTT BROOKS HIRED pg.13)

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Post#41 » by gravytrain24 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:29 am

Let me throw out two names that havent been mentioned and is so far fetched, but just for the sake of conversation Becky Hammon and Geno Auriemma. The best opportunity we have for KD2DC is Brooks unfortunately, pipe dreams.
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Post#43 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:52 am

I like Monty Williams. Wouldn't be my first choice, but he's a solid player's coach.
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Post#44 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:55 am

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Post#45 » by verbal8 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:48 am

gravytrain24 wrote:Let me throw out two names that havent been mentioned and is so far fetched, but just for the sake of conversation Becky Hammon and Geno Auriemma. The best opportunity we have for KD2DC is Brooks unfortunately, pipe dreams.


I could see Brooks being the Wizards top choice, but he may have better options.
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Post#46 » by BigA » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:48 am

pineappleheadindc wrote:.


Wizards make surprise hire for head coaching position

By Gene Wang April 13 at 11:25 PM

The Randy Wittman era came to an official close late Wednesday night as he was dismissed, ironically, following a rousing 109-98 victory over the playoff-bound Atlanta Hawks. Multiple sources report that since about the halfway point of the season, Wittman had lost the locker room because of his refusal to entertain improvement suggestions from players.

Wizards President Ernie Grunfeld has already made an offer to the next Wizards Head Coach. And in a move that can best be described as "everything old is new again", his surprise pick was on nobody's radar -- former Wizards Head Coach Doug Collins.

Read the rest by clicking here.


I was hoping for Ed Tapscott.
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Post#47 » by TGW » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:21 pm

The only thing I know about Brooks is that I absolutely hated his offense in OKC. The ISO ball with little to no ball movement...yech. There's a reason he couldn't win there despite having two of the best offensive players in the league.
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Post#48 » by Sluggerface » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:28 pm

TGW wrote:The only thing I know about Brooks is that I absolutely hated his offense in OKC. The ISO ball with little to no ball movement...yech. There's a reason he couldn't win there despite having two of the best offensive players in the league.


You do realize that is the same offense that is being run now by Billy Donovan? Supposedly a "better" coach, than Brooks? OKC has finished in the top ten in offensive rating for the past six seasons.

I don't very much care who the head coach is, as long as he can get guys to buy in. I'm much more concerned about the quality of assistants the team will be hiring.
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Post#49 » by TGW » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:34 pm

Sluggerface wrote:You do realize that is the same offense that is being run now by Billy Donovan? Supposedly a "better" coach, than Brooks? OKC has finished in the top ten in offensive rating for the past six seasons.


Yea, it's a terrible offense that doesn't work in the playoffs IMO. I hate it. I would imagine with two studs like Durant and Westbrook, pretty much any offensive system you put in place will produce points.

Brooks' coaching in the playoffs was very underwhelming IMO...they simply could not score at the same rate in the playoffs, and that's why they failed.
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Post#50 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:41 pm

The Brooks pursuit reeks of more KD desperation. But I don't think he'd be a terrible hire. He did a nice job developing young players in OKC, and once Durant spurns Ernie's advances (just wanted to give you that visual), Brooks might mesh well with the Wizards' youth. And I think he could put a good staff together.

As we know, it mostly depends on the roster he'd be coaching.
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Post#51 » by Sluggerface » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:48 pm

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Sluggerface wrote:You do realize that is the same offense that is being run now by Billy Donovan? Supposedly a "better" coach, than Brooks? OKC has finished in the top ten in offensive rating for the past six seasons.


Yea, it's a terrible offense that doesn't work in the playoffs IMO. I hate it. I would imagine with two studs like Durant and Westbrook, pretty much any offensive system you put in place will produce points.

Brooks' coaching in the playoffs was very underwhelming IMO...they simply could not score at the same rate in the playoffs, and that's why they failed.


They failed because of getting injured at the absolute worst time (Westbrook in 2013, Ibaka in 2014), trading away a superstar in Harden, and running into an insane peak from San Antonio. They weren't bad offensively in the playoffs. The lowest offensive rating they posted in a series was against Memphis, a series that Westbrook sat out of.
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Post#52 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:52 pm

fishercob wrote:The Brooks pursuit reeks of more KD desperation. But I don't think he'd be a terrible hire. He did a nice job developing young players in OKC, and once Durant spurns Ernie's advances (just wanted to give you that visual), Brooks might mesh well with the Wizards' youth. And I think he could put a good staff together.

As we know, it mostly depends on the roster he'd be coaching.


That's the first thing I thought of too. They're glomming onto any friggin connection to KD they can find. We're total whores. But the truth is, convincing Durant to come here is probably the only move that can transform pro basketball in this city into a truly competitive institution. Our ownership and management is too weak otherwise.

I don't love the move though. Brooks was an obviously weak coach in OKC. Unless it did actually manage to trick, I mean persuade, Durant to come here, this would just continue our culture of mediocrity and amateurism. How come we never get to have a Steve Kerr, Terry Stotts, Mike Budenholzer, Brad Stevens, etc.? Why should hiring a legit good coach seem like such a pie in the sky fantasy for us?
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Post#53 » by Dark Faze » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:18 pm

Hornacek?

Jesus christ I don't want to become Phoenix East. No way I'm watching this team at all next year if Hornacek comes to town.
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Post#54 » by fishercob » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:23 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
fishercob wrote:The Brooks pursuit reeks of more KD desperation. But I don't think he'd be a terrible hire. He did a nice job developing young players in OKC, and once Durant spurns Ernie's advances (just wanted to give you that visual), Brooks might mesh well with the Wizards' youth. And I think he could put a good staff together.

As we know, it mostly depends on the roster he'd be coaching.


That's the first thing I thought of too. They're glomming onto any friggin connection to KD they can find. We're total whores. But the truth is, convincing Durant to come here is probably the only move that can transform pro basketball in this city into a truly competitive institution. Our ownership and management is too weak otherwise.

I don't love the move though. Brooks was an obviously weak coach in OKC. Unless it did actually manage to trick, I mean persuade, Durant to come here, this would just continue our culture of mediocrity and amateurism. How come we never get to have a Steve Kerr, Terry Stotts, Mike Budenholzer, Brad Stevens, etc.? Why should hiring a legit good coach seem like such a pie in the sky fantasy for us?


I wholeheartedly disagree with the highlighted passage. Durant may be the single available player who could help the Wizards most immediately, but there is a clear path to transforming the Wizards into a competitive enterprise -- disciplined, deliberate, adding of talent and assets. See what the Celtics have done as a prime example. We do not NEED Durant in order to become relevant. We need smart management -- period.
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Post#55 » by nate33 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:39 pm

Dark Faze wrote:Hornacek?

Jesus christ I don't want to become Phoenix East. No way I'm watching this team at all next year if Hornacek comes to town.

Hornacek did a fabulous job in his first season in Phoenix, but then the wheels came off. I don't know enough about how much Hornacek is to blame. He had a pretty toxic locker room to deal with, and the move to acquire Isaiah Thomas on a team that already had Bledsoe and Dragic really screwed up the chemistry.

Whatever the case, I don't see Hornacek as an option after acquiring Markieff Morris. I think Hornacek has potential to be a real good coach though.
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Post#56 » by stevemcqueen1 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:59 pm

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fishercob wrote:The Brooks pursuit reeks of more KD desperation. But I don't think he'd be a terrible hire. He did a nice job developing young players in OKC, and once Durant spurns Ernie's advances (just wanted to give you that visual), Brooks might mesh well with the Wizards' youth. And I think he could put a good staff together.

As we know, it mostly depends on the roster he'd be coaching.


That's the first thing I thought of too. They're glomming onto any friggin connection to KD they can find. We're total whores. But the truth is, convincing Durant to come here is probably the only move that can transform pro basketball in this city into a truly competitive institution. Our ownership and management is too weak otherwise.

I don't love the move though. Brooks was an obviously weak coach in OKC. Unless it did actually manage to trick, I mean persuade, Durant to come here, this would just continue our culture of mediocrity and amateurism. How come we never get to have a Steve Kerr, Terry Stotts, Mike Budenholzer, Brad Stevens, etc.? Why should hiring a legit good coach seem like such a pie in the sky fantasy for us?


I wholeheartedly disagree with the highlighted passage. Durant may be the single available player who could help the Wizards most immediately, but there is a clear path to transforming the Wizards into a competitive enterprise -- disciplined, deliberate, adding of talent and assets. See what the Celtics have done as a prime example. We do not NEED Durant in order to become relevant. We need smart management -- period.


I have no hope of obtaining that. I have no confidence in the leadership of the franchise.
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Post#57 » by gtn130 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:15 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:I like Monty Williams. Wouldn't be my first choice, but he's a solid player's coach.


He's a terrible everything else coach tho.
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Post#58 » by gtn130 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:18 pm

TGW wrote:
Sluggerface wrote:You do realize that is the same offense that is being run now by Billy Donovan? Supposedly a "better" coach, than Brooks? OKC has finished in the top ten in offensive rating for the past six seasons.


Yea, it's a terrible offense that doesn't work in the playoffs IMO. I hate it. I would imagine with two studs like Durant and Westbrook, pretty much any offensive system you put in place will produce points.

Brooks' coaching in the playoffs was very underwhelming IMO...they simply could not score at the same rate in the playoffs, and that's why they failed.


Brooks/Donovan are both terrible NBA coaches, but what do you guys really expect OKC to run offensively? Trying to play like GSW or Atlanta or Boston would be idiotic. They have two absolutely elite iso players who need the ball. This is a rare situation where iso ball actually makes some sense. Should the 2001 Lakers have run less iso?
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Post#59 » by FAH1223 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:21 pm

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Dark Faze wrote:Hornacek?

Jesus christ I don't want to become Phoenix East. No way I'm watching this team at all next year if Hornacek comes to town.

Hornacek did a fabulous job in his first season in Phoenix, but then the wheels came off. I don't know enough about how much Hornacek is to blame. He had a pretty toxic locker room to deal with, and the move to acquire Isaiah Thomas on a team that already had Bledsoe and Dragic really screwed up the chemistry.

Whatever the case, I don't see Hornacek as an option after acquiring Markieff Morris. I think Hornacek has potential to be a real good coach though.


Hornacek also has a good offensive system.

Brooks doesn't even have one. I feel he's a younger Randy who is better because he will play young players. But then again he stuck to Kendrick Perkins for so long during Steven Adams rookie year and on Sefalosha for too long too. He's slow to make adjustments. The 2012 NBA Finals he was out coached and the 2014 Western Conference Finals his lack of an offense really showed with how easily the Spurs blew em out in 3 of those games.

Wall and Beal need a system.

I know Otto can be perfect in a system. He needs to be aggressive.

I think Oubre can too.

Morris had a good season in 2014, a little better than average.

And Gortat can do his thing off pick and rolls and the occasional post shot.

But the back court REALLY needs an offensive system. No ISO bull. I want Wall and Beal moving without the basketball and knowing how to cut.
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Post#60 » by gtn130 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:32 pm

Hornacek is clearly the best option mentioned. I'd be fine with D'Antoni for the entertainment factor. Thibs would be great, but he's apparently not an option. Brooks would be awful. No clue about Cassell but I tend to doubt he'd be better than average.

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