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DirtyDez · Post #1901 » by **DirtyDez** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 7:37 am

Love seeing Kobe go out like that. Outscoring Utah in the 4th qtr.

MathiasPW · Post #1902 » by **MathiasPW** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:42 pm

Oh the irony:

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/720454632431075329

Post #1903 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:04 pm

MathiasPW wrote:Oh the irony:

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/720454632431075329

I was going to mention to them before on their board that he might be a good coach for them, but then I remembered Kieff was there. That would certainly be interesting.

LukasBMW · Post #1904 » by **LukasBMW** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:23 pm

LOL @ the Wizzards.

Post #1905 » by **ATTL** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:23 am

Man, that would be hilarious for Jeff to get the wiz job.

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LukasBMW · Post #1906 » by **LukasBMW** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:35 am

Regarding Kobe.

Anyone else think this whole "Kobe last year mania" is absurd?

1. Kobe ran off shaq
2. Kobe almost left the Lakers after running off Shaq because he couldn't win by himself
3. Kobe wins 2 more rings with Gasol
4. After Gasol leaves, no one wants to play with Kobe because Kobe is a piece of work
5. Kobe demands the Lakers bring on more talent yet refuses to take a paycut.
6. The Lakers badly need to rebuild but they still give "grandpa Kobe" max money.
7. The Lakers are stuck paying "past prime" Kobe max money and no one else wants to come join the team.
8. The Lakers have a horrible season as the most selfish player in NBA history leads the team to the 2nd worst record in the league.

Kobe has crippled the Lakers all for his own interests. He may be a great player, he may have 5 rings, but his selfishness kept him from being an even better player.

Kobe should go down in history as the most self centered player in NBA history.

DirtyDez · Post #1907 » by **DirtyDez** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:41 am

LukasBMW wrote:Regarding Kobe.

Anyone else think this whole "Kobe last year mania" is absurd?

1. Kobe ran off shaq
2. Kobe almost left the Lakers after running off Shaq because he couldn't win by himself
3. Kobe wins 2 more rings with Gasol
4. After Gasol leaves, no one wants to play with Kobe because Kobe is a piece of work
5. Kobe demands the Lakers bring on more talent yet refuses to take a paycut.
6. The Lakers badly need to rebuild but they still give "grandpa Kobe" max money.
7. The Lakers are stuck paying "past prime" Kobe max money and no one else wants to come join the team.
8. The Lakers have a horrible season as the most selfish player in NBA history leads the team to the 2nd worst record in the league.

Kobe has crippled the Lakers all for his own interests. He may be a great player, he may have 5 rings, but his selfishness kept him from being an even better player.

Kobe should go down in history as the most self centered player in NBA history.

I suppose he could be but Lebron is constantly undermining the Cavs and Jordan punched teammates. Tim Duncan-type superstars are/were rare.

As for Shaq let's not forget his attitude issues. He was constantly out of shape and focused on other interests during that time. Remember the "hurt on company time" line. Kobe called him out publicly which was wrong and unprofessional but that relationship was never gonna last.

As for the Lakers they ended up bad enough to keep their pick so I don't think Kobe "crippled them". If the CP3 trade goes thru maybe things are different? Or if the Nash/Dwight thinks didn't backfire...

TeamTragic · Post #1908 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:58 am

MathiasPW wrote:Oh the irony:

https://twitter.com/WojVerticalNBA/status/720454632431075329

SOON

LukasBMW · Post #1909 » by **LukasBMW** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:12 am

LukasBMW wrote:Regarding Kobe.

Anyone else think this whole "Kobe last year mania" is absurd?

1. Kobe ran off shaq
2. Kobe almost left the Lakers after running off Shaq because he couldn't win by himself
3. Kobe wins 2 more rings with Gasol
4. After Gasol leaves, no one wants to play with Kobe because Kobe is a piece of work
5. Kobe demands the Lakers bring on more talent yet refuses to take a paycut.
6. The Lakers badly need to rebuild but they still give "grandpa Kobe" max money.
7. The Lakers are stuck paying "past prime" Kobe max money and no one else wants to come join the team.
8. The Lakers have a horrible season as the most selfish player in NBA history leads the team to the 2nd worst record in the league.

Kobe has crippled the Lakers all for his own interests. He may be a great player, he may have 5 rings, but his selfishness kept him from being an even better player.

Kobe should go down in history as the most self centered player in NBA history.

As I was saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO0G2I9SsKE

"His narcissism destroyed a franchise"

Saberestar · Post #1910 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:31 am

Amazing final minutes by Kobe in his last game. Wowwww.
In my opinion Kobe Bryant has been a joy to watch for a ton of years. One of the best ever playing the game that I love so much.

ryanball · Post #1911 » by **ryanball** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:18 am

LukasBMW wrote:Kobe has crippled the Lakers all for his own interests. He may be a great player, he may have 5 rings, but his selfishness kept him from being an even better player.

Kobe should go down in history as the most self centered player in NBA history.

No, Kobe is not actually able to force the Lakers to do anything. He seeks the best deals for himself which is appropriate, the Lakers should do the same. To the degree that Kobe has influence with the Lakers and the city, its because he well earned it.

I'm a Suns fan and loved every time we beat the Lakers and Kobe, yet its kind of insane to try and look back on his career as anything but a success. Yeah he could have been better I suppose, but what player could that not be said about? There isn't a perfect player.

Having a guy with that level of natural talent, obsessive passion to win and a ridiculous work ethic is extremely rare. If that means you have some personality conflicts along the way and a rough couple years at the end, so be it. You still get 20 years during most of which your team is relevant, plus five titles. If someone offered me that deal for the Suns I'd take it every time.

jcsunsfan · Post #1912 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 6:39 pm

LukasBMW wrote:
LukasBMW wrote:Regarding Kobe.

Anyone else think this whole "Kobe last year mania" is absurd?

1. Kobe ran off shaq
2. Kobe almost left the Lakers after running off Shaq because he couldn't win by himself
3. Kobe wins 2 more rings with Gasol
4. After Gasol leaves, no one wants to play with Kobe because Kobe is a piece of work
5. Kobe demands the Lakers bring on more talent yet refuses to take a paycut.
6. The Lakers badly need to rebuild but they still give "grandpa Kobe" max money.
7. The Lakers are stuck paying "past prime" Kobe max money and no one else wants to come join the team.
8. The Lakers have a horrible season as the most selfish player in NBA history leads the team to the 2nd worst record in the league.

Kobe has crippled the Lakers all for his own interests. He may be a great player, he may have 5 rings, but his selfishness kept him from being an even better player.

Kobe should go down in history as the most self centered player in NBA history.

As I was saying:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO0G2I9SsKE

"His narcissism destroyed a franchise"

From a Suns perspective, "best Laker ever!!!"

saintEscaton · Post #1913 » by **saintEscaton** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:00 pm

Mook with 17 points vs the Cavs already in the first half. You're welcome Motown

Jdiddy701 · Post #1914 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:08 pm

Love seeing Marcus Morris play well in his first playoff game vs the Cavs. Van Gundy and Mike Breen saying very great things about him. Don't get me wrong, it made Suns sense for Suns to trade him.

What makes me appreciate him and Markieff so much is that they put the work in the offseason.

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saintEscaton · Post #1915 » by **saintEscaton** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:38 pm

I remember when some were saying how Knight's deal was a bargain when compared to Reggie Jackson getting "overpaid". LOL

Jdiddy701 · Post #1916 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:41 pm

I can't believe Tristan Thompson gets paid 16.4 mil a year! That's the worst contract in the league.

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Jdiddy701 · Post #1917 » by **Jdiddy701** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:54 pm

Reggie bullock ?????

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carey · Post #1918 » by **carey** » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:13 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:What makes me appreciate him and Markieff so much is that they put the work in the offseason.

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You appreciate them? Really?

Post #1919 » by **rsavaj** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:40 am

Anybody who misses Marcus Morris needs to take a close look at his basketball-reference page and realize that he's playing pretty much the same(if not worse) as he did last year.

If you think last year's Mook Morris is worth the headache he brings, then more power to you, but I'm not losing sleep over the loss of a completely average player. We have a roster completely filled with average players.

I can understand Dragic and IT, since they were pretty good here, but Marcus Morris? C'mon man.

Saberestar · Post #1920 » by **Saberestar** » Mon Apr 18, 2016 1:03 am

saintEscaton wrote:Mook with 17 points vs the Cavs already in the first half. You're welcome Motown

Every player has a good half game here and there. He is not an special player.

He played a horrible second half and Detroit lost the game.

The Pistons need to start Stanimal next season over him, Marcus is a better fit playing around 24 minutes coming from the bench like a sixth or seventh man on their rotation.