Jimmy Butler

[mattao313]

Adding Butler would fundamentally change the direction of the team. The team was built to be a 4-out team with heavy pick and roll, and 3 and D wings. Adding Butler doesn't advance this vision. Unless we want Butler to shoot 3s or be a 6th man, it just doesn't fit into our very specific team design.

Keep in mind, the team design arrived before most of our current roster did...

I disagree Reggie and Butler in theory could both run the PNR and spot up sometimes. 1 in 4 out doesn't mean everyone has to camp behind the 3pt line all game.
Really Reggie needs some help playmaking I just don't know how they would mesh on and off the court.

[GSR121]

I would do the trade as posted, but I am less attached to KCP than most. I don't think the Bulls would do it. Jackson, Johnson, and a couple of picks is more like it. It would allow them to move on from Rose also. I am not saying that is a great deal for us but it is more likely what it would cost us. I don't know if that is something I would be willing to do. Lots of PG's out there though. We would have a huge hole at PG and I don't know if any of the free agent PG's are good enough to replace him.

PG: ?
SG: KCP
SF: Butler
PF: Harris
C: Drummond

That's a hell of a core though...

[MotownMadness]

I would do the trade as posted, but I am less attached to KCP than most. I don't think the Bulls would do it. Jackson, Johnson, and a couple of picks is more like it. It would allow them to move on from Rose also. I am not saying that is a great deal for us but it is more likely what it would cost us. I don't know if that is something I would be willing to do. Lots of PG's out there though. We would have a huge hole at PG and I don't know if any of the free agent PG's are good enough to replace him.

PG: ?
SG: KCP
SF: Butler
PF: Harris
C: Drummond

That's a hell of a core though...

I wouldn't do Jackson and all of that.

[Pharaoh]

I think the combination of Stanley, KCP and our 1st have the potential to be more impactfull long term. That said... I absolutely pull the trigger because those things don't exist in a vacuum. You bring in Butler and then you can still go out and pick up another wing. Hell, we might even already have some adequate backups on our roster meaning our primary focus in FA is the same as it already was; backup PG/PF.

Agree assuming the Bulls would bite:

RJ/FA
Butler/Meeks/Hilly
Mook/Bull
Harris/FA
Dre/Baynes

For the Bulls they add 2 firsts from the upcoming Draft to Portis, KCP, SJ & Rose plus whatever they can add in free agency.

Theyd have Rose to educate the youngsters on what it means to be a Bull/pro too

I personally think the Bulls won't trade him inside the division and possibly not at all

[Pandev]

I think the Bulls would take Baynes and KCP or SJ and our 1st rounder.

But the salary does not match as Bulter is making $16m -- so would need to throw in Meeks to make it work.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zc5p2yu

[MotownMadness]

I think the Bulls would take Baynes and KCP or SJ and our 1st rounder.

But the salary does not match as Bulter is making $16m -- so would need to throw in Meeks to make it work.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zc5p2yu

They would laugh at those offers

[sfballa13]

Chicago asked for the Nets picks, Crowder, and either Bradley/Smart for Butler

SJ, KCP, and a 1st doesnt come close to that package

[Pharaoh]

Bulls need to rebuild - missed their window with Rose getting hurt.

Probably looking for as many assets as possible as opposed to quality of a couple

[Laimbeer]

Of course you make that trade, and the Bulls never would. It's three nickels for a quarter. We overestimate the value of our players and underestimate the price of getting a star player.

The Bulls would be looking for at least one and perhaps two move-the-needle type assets and we've got none who aren't named Andre. Our only hope would be a Jackson, KCP, Johnson, Morris, and 1st for Butler and maybe letting them dump Rose if they like. And they'd probably still get better offers.

[Exit 9]

LOL@us giving up Reggie, KCP, MOOK,STANLEY, AND a first for Jimmy. Cmon now.

[mattao313]

^^ yeah that's not close Jimmy is good but he has concern in lots of areas including on the court locker room and health. I'm not give up half my team for him.

[Navas]

I like Butler, but his injury problems are a worry.

[Southern Piston]

Butler is really good player, it took him 4 seasons to do so. KCP. is better statistically in yr 3 than butler, Johnson is like a half a decade from reaching him prime. We might make a bigger jump next season than any other way, but we will be better keeping them both in two years. We have to develop, this trade would not be a good idea. We have found a young core that fits well together, teams like Minn. Sac. The Lakers couldn't do this in seven seasons. We can't get free agents, Dumars won a lot of trades in the beginning too, it will become less frequent in one or two more trade. We have to build around this core. Trading two species for one is not gonna work.

[hoophabit]

God no. This is a case of "the grass is always greener." There are reports that Butler has been a problem for the Bulls. Yeah, he's a very good player, but if he's so great why are the Bulls not in the playoffs? A starter, last year's number 1 and this year's number 1? Too pricey for me when things are actually going pretty well for the Pistons.

Making the playoffs changes the free agency dynamic. Better teams attract free agents. I'm for letting SVG improve the current roster and seeing where that leads.