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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#41 » by Bensational » Wed Apr 13, 2016 11:21 am

OrlandO wrote:
Tron Carter- wrote:He won't stay on the Kings.. He will opt out when he gets the chance.

which is this summer... if we really want him back we can overpay him to ride the bench.


from a business perspective it's probably a smart move to cash in on the Curry namesake.

"brother of the best player in the world, and best shooter in the history of the NBA - who's also shooting pretty darn well himself" will certainly generate buzz and sell some tickets.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#42 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:07 pm

If the Kings lose Rondo this offseason and the competition at PG is not that deep, Seth should ride it out and earn a bigger payday in 2017 over of being a 3rd stringer on the Magic or anywhere else.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#43 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:06 am

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Seth is proving to be better than any backup PG on our roster which has many people saying it's our weakest position.. so considering we had a very good shot at keeping him, I think it's a mistake that we let him go.


Garbage stats on a garbage team in garbage minutes.

Seth is proving nothing.

Again, I know it has been a rough few years but you guys are better than this...


Kings have 33 wins this season, Magic have 35. By that logic, nothing any of the current Magic players are putting up is worthwhile, either.

Just playing devil's advocate.


Obviously. If you look back, I spoke up as loud as anyone against the Tobias Harris hype for this same reason.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#44 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:09 am

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Seth is symbolic of what a lot of people on this board have failed to realise - opportunity is everything. He's been given an opportunity, and he's stepping up.

Our team refuses to give those opportunities to the right players.


These are professional basketball players in a 48 minute game where a given amount of shots are all but guaranteed for each team. Stats are naturally going to happen regardless of the talent.

History has countless examples of guys performing far above their talent in garbage minutes and failing to reproduce those results in meaningful minutes. But fans want the easy fix and refuse to let hard realities or facts get in the way of hope.

Have you seen his percentages? Efficiency easily blows your argument out of the water.


False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#45 » by Skin » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:33 am

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thelead wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
These are professional basketball players in a 48 minute game where a given amount of shots are all but guaranteed for each team. Stats are naturally going to happen regardless of the talent.

History has countless examples of guys performing far above their talent in garbage minutes and failing to reproduce those results in meaningful minutes. But fans want the easy fix and refuse to let hard realities or facts get in the way of hope.

Have you seen his percentages? Efficiency easily blows your argument out of the water.


False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.

Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#46 » by thelead » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:34 am

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thelead wrote:Have you seen his percentages? Efficiency easily blows your argument out of the water.


False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.

Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?

The Shabazz part is what he keeps forgetting.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#47 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:40 am

Skin wrote:
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thelead wrote:Have you seen his percentages? Efficiency easily blows your argument out of the water.


False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.

Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?


That isn't the point. The point is this guy isn't worth starting a thread and crying over. Maybe he is better. Maybe he is worse. But you are talking about a very small change in talent level at the end of the bench for a bad team. Yet people are crying that we missed a golden opportunity. It is sad to see. You guys are better than this. Have more pride in yourselves as fans.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#48 » by Skin » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:02 am

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False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.

Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?


That isn't the point. The point is this guy isn't worth starting a thread and crying over. Maybe he is better. Maybe he is worse. But you are talking about a very small change in talent level at the end of the bench for a bad team. Yet people are crying that we missed a golden opportunity. It is sad to see. You guys are better than this. Have more pride in yourselves as fans.

It's not a knock on anyone here. It's pointing out a mistake Henny made. I love Henny, but I'm not gonna put blinders on just because I like him. It's not a terrible move, but it was a miscalculation. Nobody can tell the future, so it's not like Henny can ever be mistake free. I thought CJ Watson would be better than he was. Shabazz was a toss up. Seth looks like someone that would've helped solve our shooting problems at PG.

Let's just hope he doesn't become half of what his brother is, cause if that happens... then yeah... I will be crying.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#49 » by Bensational » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:09 am

MagicFan101 wrote:
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MagicFan101 wrote:
False. If you can't see why, I can direct you to some elementary papers on sample size and how it plays in statistical models and predictive analytics in general.

Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?


That isn't the point. The point is this guy isn't worth starting a thread and crying over. Maybe he is better. Maybe he is worse. But you are talking about a very small change in talent level at the end of the bench for a bad team. Yet people are crying that we missed a golden opportunity. It is sad to see. You guys are better than this. Have more pride in yourselves as fans.


You've really got it in for Seth, don't you? Why do you care so much if posters see an opportunity to make improvements, even if they're small?

I'd say "you're better than this", but then you're probably one step away from wishing a career ending injury on the guy...
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#50 » by MagicFan101 » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:29 am

Bensational wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:
Skin wrote:Do you think he would've been worse than Shabazz? How about Watson?


That isn't the point. The point is this guy isn't worth starting a thread and crying over. Maybe he is better. Maybe he is worse. But you are talking about a very small change in talent level at the end of the bench for a bad team. Yet people are crying that we missed a golden opportunity. It is sad to see. You guys are better than this. Have more pride in yourselves as fans.


You've really got it in for Seth, don't you? Why do you care so much if posters see an opportunity to make improvements, even if they're small?

I'd say "you're better than this", but then you're probably one step away from wishing a career ending injury on the guy...


It is the same thinking that has people looking to fire coaches and GMs every half season. Fans here expect everything from nothing. It has been a tough stretch and I get that this has to wear on people but its starting to get sad.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#51 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:55 pm

In regards to Seth Curry, I think too much praise is going to a player who has had only 2 good games out of the whole 9 NBA games he has played in his entire 3 year NBA career. People forget he didn't make 3 teams last summer. He is a 3rd string PG at best right now and probably not better than Napier at the moment.

I would sign Seth to a minimum contract to develop him, but he ain't going to help the team much or get many minutes. In addition, he is absolutely horrid on defense.

Seth had his good game in a meaningless end of season game. He has been bad in games that have meaning.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#52 » by fendilim » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:46 pm

I can't believe why we are wasting time on this kid. He's a great shooter, ok. Nothing more. As bad as Napier is, he's still a PG, and Seth is built as a PG but plays like an spot up SG.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#53 » by Hilltop » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:03 am

gazken wrote:The same with Ish Smith as well. Better player than Napier.

Not overly impressed with Ish Smith. He's a chucker with free reign on a bad team.

That being said, I would take him over Napier as well. No question about it.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#54 » by MagicMadness » Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:17 am

I'm really happy for the guy, and kinda ticked off we lost him.

Hats off for losing to Napier (?) and then going on to Jeremy-Lin-from-out-of-nowhere-on-the-Knicks type success to close out the season. Hopefully he can build upon it. It's got to be tough being the brother of the MVP.
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Re: OT: Seth Curry 

Post#55 » by fendilim » Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:42 am

MagicStarwipe wrote:He looks like an NBA player which a few here said he couldn't be. Nobody thought Jeremy Lin was an NBA player until Linsanity either. Not a franchise changer, but looks a hell of a lot better than Napier.

In what sense? As a better shooter? Definitely. But we needed someone who could bring down the ball and be a playmaker. Napier is still the better choice. We didnt have a 3rd pg coming into the season.
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