Scott Foster now has 13 consecutive wins for the road team in the playoffs

[I_Like_Dirt]

Why aren't people just debating the topic?

The topic isn't "Foster gets the Pacers to win". It's "Foster now had 13 consecutive wins for the home team."

I mean, what are the odds considering that the home team was a favorite each of those 13 times?

Yeah, I don't get it either. The Pacers were the better team but that has no bearing on how outrageous it is thar Foster now has a 13 game road winning streak. It's beyond obvious at this point yet people would rather look on individual points on the micro scale, breaking things down into meaninglessly small sample sizes.

It's worse when you realize how tied Donaghy and Foster were.

[The1llness]

Can you post the previous twelve road games he worked so we can dissect them?

But yea I think Foster was compliant with Donaghy but got off the hook b/c they wanted to go with the lone wolf story.

[SpinninHouse]

It's well documented that Scott Foster threw Game 5 of Bulls-Heat in the 2011 ECF's in Miami's favor.

I would encourage every one to watch Foster's officiating in the 4th quarter of that game.

Anywho, the link between Foster and Tim Donaghy is shocking. They literally talked 20 times a day. It's un fathomable that Foster is still allowed to officiate NBA games.?


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[lobosloboslobos]

Raps absolutely deserved to lose today but yes this is a huge red flag and another sign that the NBA's refereeing culture is dangerously flawed. Really, the guy who was Donaghy's closest pal has delivered 13 straight playoff road wins? And some people think this is an accident? The league consistently uses certain refs to deliver certain results. As it happens the Pacers didn't need Foster's help today because the Raps sucked but it is also worth noting that the most impactful player on the floor for the Raps fouled out in 21 minutes.

[MaliBrah]

It's well documented that Scott Foster threw Game 5 of Bulls-Heat in the 2011 ECF's in Miami's favor.

I would encourage every one to watch Foster's officiating in the 4th quarter of that game.

Anywho, the link between Foster and Tim Donaghy is shocking. They literally talked 20 times a day. It's un fathomable that Foster is still allowed to officiate NBA games.?


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scott foster was raining three's out there in lebron and wade costumes???

[aIvin adams]

Why aren't people just debating the topic?

The topic isn't "Foster gets the Pacers to win". It's "Foster now had 13 consecutive wins for the home team."

I mean, what are the odds considering that the home team was a favorite each of those 13 times?

gambler's fallacy tho

[Em1]

Idk if he caused PG to shoot shoot 10-13 from the field in the 2nd half or for the Raptors' all star backcourt to shoot 8-32 from the field.

[Nuntius]

Scott Foster is just plain bad. Both players and coaches voted him as the worst ref in the league. I have no idea why they're allowing him to ref in the playoffs. He flat out shouldn't be there.

Edit: Instead of writing plain bad in my first sentence I just wrote "he's just plain" which didn't make any sense. In any case, Scott Foster is a bad ref. He shouldn't be reffing in the playoffs.

[leolozon]

Why aren't people just debating the topic?

The topic isn't "Foster gets the Pacers to win". It's "Foster now had 13 consecutive wins for the home team."

I mean, what are the odds considering that the home team was a favorite each of those 13 times?

gambler's fallacy tho

What? It has nothing to do with gambler's fallacy.

I was asking about the odds, implying they were very low. If you throw a coin 10 times in the air and call "head" every time and get it, the odds are really low 1/1024. The gambler fallacy would be to think that the next shot can't be "head" and that's not what I did.
A rare occurrence doesn't mean that there's a problem, it can just be bad luck, but it certainly deserves more investigation. If I'm playing with someone who gets head 10 times in a row, I want to look at that coin.

Gambler's fallacy had nothing to do with my post.

[TaylorMonkey]

Why aren't people just debating the topic?

The topic isn't "Foster gets the Pacers to win". It's "Foster now had 13 consecutive wins for the home team."

I mean, what are the odds considering that the home team was a favorite each of those 13 times?

gambler's fallacy tho

What? It has nothing to do with gambler's fallacy, I was saying that the odds must be really low. If you throw a coin 10 times in the air and call "head" every time and get it, the odds are really low 1/1024. The gambler fallacy would be to think that the next shot can't be "head", not that it's a rare occurrence. A rare occurrence doesn't mean that there's a problem, it can just be bad luck, but it certainly deserves more investigation. If I'm playing with someone who gets head 10 times in a row, I want to look at that coin.

Gambler's fallacy had nothing to do with my post.

The only gambler here is Scott Foster (probably).

[mtron929]

It is really difficult to figure out whether these types of occurrences are coincidence or if there is a certain level of intent that is causing them. Because there are many events that goes on, and very unlikely patterns do begin to emerge. So the best way to investigate this matter is not via mathematics but via looking into these 13 games and trying to figure out if he has consistently made biased calls against the home team.

[leolozon]

Scott Foster is just plain. Both players and coaches voted him as the worst ref in the league. I have no idea why they're allowing him to ref in the playoffs. He flat out shouldn't be there.

Yeah, in january 2016.

And now the three worst officials in the league, according to players and coaches we surveyed:

1. Scott Foster, with 24 votes.
2. Lauren Holtkamp, with 14 votes.
3. Marc Davis, with 12 votes.

"Foster, 48, who got the worst grades of any referee, has been in the business for 22 seasons.

"He had one of our playoff games and as soon as he walked in, I was like, 'This game is over.' We all knew we were going to get bad calls, and we did," said one veteran player. "You couldn't say anything to him. Hell, I don't think you could even look at him."

"You can't talk to him. He's never wrong," one player complained about Foster. "I like refs where they say, 'You know what, I made a mistake. I saw it at halftime. You were right.' But Scott Foster thinks he never makes a mistake. The players see the stats of how he is on the road. He always helps the road team out. He loves to stick it to teams."

Honestly, why is he still in the league?

http://www.latimes.com/sports/nba/la-sp-nba-best-worst-referees-20160131-story.html

[revvolutions]

Foster knows where the bodies are buried, so shut your trap and focus on Paul George being too much for the raptors to handle.

[leolozon]

I don't have the time or resources to look into it.

But just looking on youtube you find interesting clips of bad calls. Like this one who pretty much directly cost the home team the game.


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8AY5MJ0blE[/youtube]

[Sofia]

Why aren't people just debating the topic?

The topic isn't "Foster gets the Pacers to win". It's "Foster now had 13 consecutive wins for the home team."

I mean, what are the odds considering that the home team was a favorite each of those 13 times?

Yeah, I don't get it either. The Pacers were the better team but that has no bearing on how outrageous it is thar Foster now has a 13 game road winning streak. It's beyond obvious at this point yet people would rather look on individual points on the micro scale, breaking things down into meaninglessly small sample sizes.

It's worse when you realize how tied Donaghy and Foster were.

If you want people to talk about more than 1 game, you should provide a list of the full 13 games.

At the moment, most people can only name the last one (which everyone outside Toronto disagrees with anyway) but at least humour us and post the full list of Scott Foster travesties.

[leolozon]

"The records show Donaghy placed 134 calls to referee Scott Foster — more than the 126 calls Donaghy made to his bookie — between October 2006 and April 2007, the period during which he has confessed to either betting on games or passing on game information to gamblers. The majority of the phone calls lasted no more than two minutes and occurred prior to and after games Donaghy officiated and on which he admits wagering."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/07/14/disgraced-former-nba-referee-tim-donaghy-phone-calls-to-second-ref-raise.html

But the data doesn't seem that weird. It's probably just a coincidence. Or maybe Foster is the type of guy who like to go against the tide, so he will subconsciously advantage the away team.

In regular season games, relative to the average, he is -.011 in home VS away teams: so the away team wins slightly more compare to the average. In playoff games he is -.145, so it's a bit more significant.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/referees/fostesc99r.html#pl_home_vs_visitor::none

[Guy Smiley]

How many playoff games have Lowry and DeRozan been favoured in by Vegas only to come up lame?

[DonMega]

Anyone see the JV calls by foster? All bs. Jv was obliterating pacers until foster starting calling non calls and removed him from the game with 5

I'm not saying we should have won as the brick Bros really sucked and lost it for us. But those calls on jv were ridiculous

Lauren is terrible too, let me guess we'll see her in game 2?

[I_Like_Dirt]

It is really difficult to figure out whether these types of occurrences are coincidence or if there is a certain level of intent that is causing them. Because there are many events that goes on, and very unlikely patterns do begin to emerge. So the best way to investigate this matter is not via mathematics but via looking into these 13 games and trying to figure out if he has consistently made biased calls against the home team.

Sort of. Usually the calls are going to be obvious like fans want them to be. It's setting the tone for the game. Making a call early that now the other refs have to try to maintain consistency with. Setting the parameters of what a team can and can't do on either end of the floor with non-shooting fouls, etc. If Foster is, in fact, actively affecting games, he isn't going to put ot way out there in any given game. It will show up in the larger scale results, though. Does anyone know offhand the NBA record for playoff wins on the road? Because Foster might just have it now.

[prech]

Did a quick Google search and it looks like Foster's history has been noted over at r/nba as well. It appears the last 13 road wins are as follows:

* Game 2, WAS (117) @ Toronto (106)
* Game 1, WAS (104) @ ATL (98)
* Game 4, CLE (86) @ CHI (84)
* Game 1, CLE (97) @ ATL (89)
* Game 3, GSW (123) @ NOP (119)
* Game 3, SAS (111) @ LAC (107)
* Game 3, MEM (115) @ POR (109)
* Game 2, MEM (97) @ GSW (90)
* Game 6, HOU (119) @ LAC (107)
* Game 3, GSW (115) @ HOU (80)
* Game 2, CLE (95) @ GSW (93)
* Game 6, GSW (105) @ HOU (97)
* Game 1, IND (100) @ TOR (90)