Jaylen Brown

[TheGoodDoctor]

Reminds me of Oladipo without a jumper.

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His basement is Jae Crowder, who was just below and all star this year.

Wow! Basement, Jae Crowder? Come on now. Jae is one of the better SF's in the NBA. I would say top 15 and you would say someone who is as raw as Brown has the same floor is pretty much a far reach.

I see him as a very high risk-reward player. Think McLemore.

Last year Crowder was averaging 15 minutes per game and was a throw-in in the Rondo trade.

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When I make these player comparisons I'm probably distorted because Brad Stevens is the coach of my Celtics. He just brings out the best of players, effortlessly. But guys not drafted by him are going to face greater struggle.

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Reminds me of Oladipo without a jumper.

If Oladipo was 6'7 he'd be a much more effective SF than the SG/PG he is.

[HotelVitale]

Jeff Green lacks passion for the game. Multiple reports out of the Memphis locker room this year that "Green has no heart". I watched Green play every game in Boston. 5 out of 6 nights he showed no aggression, and when he did, he'd have a huge night.Brown seems to be aggressive every game, maybe even every possession. You guys are talking about him just putting his head down and attacking the rim like it's a bad thing, but a lot of guys like Jeff Green never had enough heart and aggression to do it regularly./

Okay, I gave like 10 examples, if one of them doesn't perfectly fit the pt you can find some other ones that do.

It seems like you're creating an idea of 'Jaylen Brown,' the aggressive, hard-working lunch pail guy, rather than looking at the reality of him right now. He wasn't super 'aggressive'--if you look at his highlights it might look that way because literally all he could do to produce was try to power past his guy. He had no midrange game, no drive-kick game, not stretch game, etc--he was stronger and more athletic than most defenders he faced, and that was his only way of scoring. But he wasn't punishing guys or making skilled power drives all game, and he also wasn't very good at what he did. Neither efficient nor productive, just a regular ho-hum NCAA player.

I don't hate his as a prospect but if you're drafting him you're taking a guy who's got a NBA body and some skills that doesn't do anything well now. He's kind of a cross-your-fingers prospect, where you're hoping he pulls it together and becomes the best version of himself even though he's not giving you any reason to think that yet.

[rick_21]

I completely agree with what HotelVitale has said.

The comparison with Jae Crowder is awfully wrong. They might have some similarities from a physical standpoint but their games are completely different. Crowder is a hard-worker, hustle, do-it-all guy with great fundamentals and high activity level. On the other hand, Jaylen Brown has a scorer mentality and is pretty raw at everything. Right now he can do nothing positive apart from scoring in transition thanks to his strenght and athleticism.

Jaylen Brown reminds me of a more athletic Shabazz Muhammad (bench scorer with poor shooting and defense that gets his points through hustle and physicality), and that will probably be his role at the next level unless he dramatically improves some aspects of his game: mainly defense, shooting and/or ball-handling. He's young, and has a good physical foundation to build upon, he might be a good player in a few years, but the star potential that some of you see in him is far from guaranteed.

[Coeur]

People forget what derozen was as a freshman in the PAC. Jaylen brown still has that career trajectory possible. Highest ceiling as a SG

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I completely agree with what HotelVitale has said.

The comparison with Jae Crowder is awfully wrong. They might have some similarities from a physical standpoint but their games are completely different. Crowder is a hard-worker, hustle, do-it-all guy with great fundamentals and high activity level. On the other hand, Jaylen Brown has a scorer mentality and is pretty raw at everything. Right now he can do nothing positive apart from scoring in transition thanks to his strenght and athleticism.

Jaylen Brown reminds me of a more athletic Shabazz Muhammad (bench scorer with poor shooting and defense that gets his points through hustle and physicality), and that will probably be his role at the next level unless he dramatically improves some aspects of his game: mainly defense, shooting and/or ball-handling. He's young, and has a good physical foundation to build upon, he might be a good player in a few years, but the star potential that some of you see in him is far from guaranteed.

Jae Crowder isn't a do it all player. He's not a good passer, not a good ball handler, and is a mediocre rebounder.

He plays good defense, attacks the rim with great aggression like Jalen, and this year he's started shooting, and making, a good amount of jump shots. He absolutely has a scorer's mentality this year, and that's why he averaged 14-15 points. He looks for his shot every time he gets the ball, and he's not setting up others to score because that's never been a gift of his.

You guys are forgetting that Crowder was a second round pick after 2 years in college, and didn't do anything his first 2.5 years in the league after that.

To fail to see the clear potential of a one-and-done top 10 pick to easily match Crowder's production at 25 years old is very short sighted.

Crowder isn't some do-everything ball handler and passer like Denzel Valentine. Crowder keeps it simple, uses his tunnel vision to his advantage offensively, and works hard on defense. That's Jaylen Brown's game in a nutshell.

And Brown won't need 6 years to get to where Crowder is now, especially if he gets drafted by the Celtics.

[The Prodigy]

The DeRozan comparison is a pretty good one for Jaylen. I think Jaylen's ball handling and shooting are a bit more advanced at the same age, but they seem like very similar types.

[saintEscaton]

The DeRozan comparison is a pretty good one for Jaylen. I think Jaylen's ball handling and shooting are a bit more advanced at the same age, but they seem like very similar types.

I don't really see Brown as a swingman with guard skills tho, he's more of a prototypical wing who can occasionally play the small ball 4

[The Prodigy]

The DeRozan comparison is a pretty good one for Jaylen. I think Jaylen's ball handling and shooting are a bit more advanced at the same age, but they seem like very similar types.

I don't really see Brown as a swingman with guard skills tho, he's more of a prototypical wing who can occasionally play the small ball 4

Doesn't mean he can't develop those skills to some extent. Like I said, I think he's ahead of Derozan at the same age in terms of ball handling and shooting.

[Leprechaun18]

Looks like he is holding a press conference thursday at 11 am.

[MemphisX]

Wasted lottery pick. Would not want him at all.

[shawn unkempt]

When I make these player comparisons I'm probably distorted because Brad Stevens is the coach of my Celtics. He just brings out the best of players, effortlessly. But guys not drafted by him are going to face greater struggle.

This is hilarious, Brad's gotten absolutely nothing out of the players we picked in the last 2 drafts.

[GimmeDat]

I think he might drop to 5/6, any later and he's as steal.

He's got a lot of room to grow but there's some great tools to work with.

[HotelVitale]

When I make these player comparisons I'm probably distorted because Brad Stevens is the coach of my Celtics. He just brings out the best of players, effortlessly. But guys not drafted by him are going to face greater struggle.

This is hilarious, Brad's gotten absolutely nothing out of the players we picked in the last 2 drafts.

Yeah, I wouldn't say any of the Celtics' 1st rounders he's coached have outperformed expectations. He's a great coach as far as drawing ups sets, match-ups, etc, but that has more effect on team success than individual. There's no magic wand a coach can wave to make a player useful if they can't do NBA things consistently.

[HotelVitale]

Jaylen Brown reminds me of a more athletic Shabazz Muhammad (bench scorer with poor shooting and defense that gets his points through hustle and physicality), and that will probably be his role at the next level unless he dramatically improves some aspects of his game: mainly defense, shooting and/or ball-handling. He's young, and has a good physical foundation to build upon, he might be a good player in a few years, but the star potential that some of you see in him is far from guaranteed.

Just to add, I do think he's a solid prospect from 5-10 and that he has a chance to be an all-star in 3-5 years. There's just no way anyone should ever say that a guy with Brown's current game has no chance of being worse than a borderline all-star. Can't use 'basement' to mean 'the unexciting version of him if develops pretty well.' For Brown to be a borderline all-star, he'd have to reach maybe 65% of his possible development--learn how to drive, finish well or hit midrange shots at a great level, keep up on D, play some pn'r, rotate well, etc, but maybe not learn how to draw fouls every drive, shoot extremely efficiently, etc (the stuff that guys who reach 90% of their max like Butler and Kawhi do). A 'basement' would be describing guys who reach 5-10%--who basically only adjust their NCAA skillset a little to fit NBA timing/spacing.

[Johnny Be Goode]

I just don't see him failing. I hope gets into a situation where he'l developed the right way. His conference play stats look also decent. If he can get smart with his driving and passing game, watch out!


http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/jaylen-brown-1.html

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[Juggynaut]

How does he compare to Stanley Johnson and Justice Winslow? I don't think he's better than any of them.

[doordoor123]

How does he compare to Stanley Johnson and Justice Winslow? I don't think he's better than any of them.

He's not. Both had a better feel for the game. Worse bodies, but pretty much better at everything else. BUT is Brown can figure it out he could be the best of the three.