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Round 1 Game 2: Clippers (1) VS Blazers (0)

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Which team will win Game 2?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 19, 2016 11:08 pm

Clippers
9
90%
Blazers
1
10%
 
Total votes: 10

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Re: Round 1 Game 2: Clippers (1) VS Blazers (0) 

Post#81 » by mkwest » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:31 am

Quake Griffin wrote:We gonna have any trouble bringing Cole back?
Luc?


Cole is definitely going to opt out. We have a little bit of cap room (~$9-10M, more if Austin opts out and Pierce retires) if we renounce our FA's. If we end up re-signing them, then we'll have our MLE ($5.628M starting salary) and the BAE ($2.203M) to work with.
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Post#82 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:32 am

og15 wrote:So we do all love to hate on Doc, but we all recognized that Paul Pierce did not see the court tonight, Doc is not an idiot.


i knew something was off, but couldn't put my finger on it!
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Post#83 » by mttwlsn16 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:34 am

og15 wrote:So we do all love to hate on Doc, but we all recognized that Paul Pierce did not see the court tonight, Doc is not an idiot.


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Re: Round 1 Game 2: Clippers (1) VS Blazers (0) 

Post#84 » by og15 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:11 pm

Series stats for far:

Offensive and Defensive Efficiency

    Clippers:
      108.5 ppg / 116.4 Ortg / .539 eFG%

    Blazers:
      88.0 ppg / 94.4 Ortg / .411 eFG%


Containing Portland's Guards

    Lillard:
      19 ppg / 33% FG / 21% 3PT / .433 TS% / 85 Ortg
    McCollum:
      12.5 ppg / 32% FG / 25% 3PT / .420 TS% / 85 Otg


Grab some rebounds

    Clippers:
      75.5% DRB / 25.6% ORB
    Blazers:
      74.4% DRB / 24.5% ORB


Star Power

    Chris Paul:
      26.5 ppg / 6.0 rpg / 8.0 apg / .589 TS% / 132 Ortg
    Blake Griffin:
      15.5 ppg / 10.5 rpg / 5.0 apg / .518 TS% / 110 Ortg
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Post#85 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:25 pm

og (or others): are there a list of benchmarks you guys use to evaluate things like EFG and TS tiers? i.e. what's accepted as relatively good and what's accepted as relatively bad. i have no real frame of reference because they aren't stats i use that often, though i think by now everyone should be.
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Post#86 » by og15 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:59 pm

nickhx2 wrote:og (or others): are there a list of benchmarks you guys use to evaluate things like EFG and TS tiers? i.e. what's accepted as relatively good and what's accepted as relatively bad. i have no real frame of reference because they aren't stats i use that often, though i think by now everyone should be.

You can always just go by league averages as a decent baseline. This season:

League average TS% is 54.1%
League average eFG% is 50.2%

A TS% in the 40's, especially the low 40's is a very bad sign for a players efficiency for sure, so Lillard and McCollum are playing pretty terrible. TS% of about 55.0% of greater is generally what is look at as good, especially for higher usage players. eFG% anything over about 50% is considered good.

General ranges for TS% could be something like this:
<45% - really bad
<48% - bad
48-51% - well below average
51-53% - below average
53-54%- average
54-56% - good
56-60% - very good
60%+ - great
65%+ - super great?

Of course we also have to compare to a player usage. Westbrook with high usage at 54% TS is better for him than Jared Dudley as a spot up / open shooter with 54% TS for example.
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Post#87 » by nickhx2 » Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:00 pm

perfect, exactly explanation i was hoping for. thanks
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Post#88 » by Quake Griffin » Thu Apr 21, 2016 10:22 pm

og15 wrote:
nickhx2 wrote:og (or others): are there a list of benchmarks you guys use to evaluate things like EFG and TS tiers? i.e. what's accepted as relatively good and what's accepted as relatively bad. i have no real frame of reference because they aren't stats i use that often, though i think by now everyone should be.

You can always just go by league averages as a decent baseline. This season:

League average TS% is 54.1%
League average eFG% is 50.2%

A TS% in the 40's, especially the low 40's is a very bad sign for a players efficiency for sure, so Lillard and McCollum are playing pretty terrible. TS% of about 55.0% of greater is generally what is look at as good, especially for higher usage players. eFG% anything over about 50% is considered good.

General ranges for TS% could be something like this:
<45% - really bad
<48% - bad
48-51% - well below average
51-53% - below average
53-54%- average
54-56% - good
56-60% - very good
60%+ - great
65%+ - super great?

Of course we also have to compare to a player usage. Westbrook with high usage at 54% TS is better for him than Jared Dudley as a spot up / open shooter with 54% TS for example.

I agree with the tiers.

I do think that a player of Russell Westbrook's caliber/ stature/ media hype should be in more of the 58-60 range regardless of his usage.

edit:
Dammit. I see what you were doing. But Russ hovers around 54% for his career so it confused me but I see.
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Re: Round 1 Game 2: Clippers (1) VS Blazers (0) 

Post#89 » by nickhx2 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:30 am

so what's up with these giant breaks in scheduling? last year this team got freaking screwed by the schedule. now we're getting 2 days in between, it's kinda nice.

i bet all our dudes are feeling pretty rested.
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Post#90 » by mttwlsn16 » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:44 am

nickhx2 wrote:so what's up with these giant breaks in scheduling? last year this team got freaking screwed by the schedule. now we're getting 2 days in between, it's kinda nice.

i bet all our dudes are feeling pretty rested.


I like it. Gives Blake some rest since he hasn't been back long and JJ rest for his heel
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