Baynes sucks

StunnaStan · Post #1 » by **StunnaStan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:51 am

Cant contest a shot to save his life

Pharaoh · Post #2 » by **Pharaoh** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:31 am

You don't need to start a thread every time you have a foolish thought!

Maker_84 · Post #3 » by **Maker_84** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:43 am

absolute scrub but im more disappointed in Jackson and Harris who were supposed to be good players

StunnaStan · Post #4 » by **StunnaStan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:18 am

I agree with your assessment of Harris but Jackson played like a real point guard tonight. He forced his last shot but ehh.

whitehops · Post #5 » by **whitehops** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:21 am

cleveland is a tough matchup for him. tristan thompson hustles as hard as he does but is a lot more athletic, love can stretch the floor and baynes isn't used to playing/is not good at playing away from the rim.

baynes was very good as a backup in the regular season, but going head to head against a contender just shows how big a difference there is between drummond and baynes.

StunnaStan · Post #6 » by **StunnaStan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:29 am

And as a team on the come up, we need to make these decisions. Do you keep a guy like baynes whos.... ok during regular season and complete ass in playoffs or are we trying to make the next step by cutting his ass and gettin a guy who you definitely know is a step up from baynes.

Pharaoh · Post #7 » by **Pharaoh** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:40 am

StunnaStan wrote:And as a team on the come up, we need to make these decisions. Do you keep a guy like baynes whos.... ok during regular season and complete ass in playoffs or are we trying to make the next step by cutting his ass and gettin a guy who you definitely know is a step up from baynes.

2 weeks ago people on here were talking about how great Baynes has been for us

3 games later we gotta ship him out?

WTF?

MotownMadness · Post #8 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:42 am

Need to draft Davis from Michigan State to play the 4/5 with great defense.

DETermination · Post #9 » by **DETermination** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 6:10 am

Seriously some stupid posts on this forum lately. Baynes has been huge for us all season.

StunnaStan · Post #10 » by **StunnaStan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:32 am

Pharaoh wrote:
StunnaStan wrote:And as a team on the come up, we need to make these decisions. Do you keep a guy like baynes whos.... ok during regular season and complete ass in playoffs or are we trying to make the next step by cutting his ass and gettin a guy who you definitely know is a step up from baynes.

2 weeks ago people on here were talking about how great Baynes has been for us

3 games later we gotta ship him out?

WTF?

Yeah duh 2 weeks ago was regular season. I don't care about regular season in terms of evaluating players. You see their true worth in the playoffs.

Todd3 · Post #11 » by **Todd3** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:38 am

Baynes is decent for a regular season backup, but he got dominated in the 1st rd last year too. Probably need to go with a 4/5 in that role to be a contender, an all-star type who can start at PF and backup C.

Might be wise to get something for him before he uses his player option.

Dutch Michigan · Post #12 » by **Dutch Michigan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:04 pm

What is this junk people starting rubbish threads when it does not go our way? Feckin' deal with it, stop whining.

I'm a little disappointed with the 0-3 but Detroit will be back the coming years. Count on it.

In SVG We Trust · Post #13 » by **In SVG We Trust** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:14 pm

Too hard for some people brains to understand the basketball is all about matchups

Joe Berry · Post #14 » by **Joe Berry** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 12:25 pm

In SVG We Trust wrote:Too hard for some people brains to understand the basketball is all about matchups

Excatly, the Cavs are playing with 0 centers. Thompson is a PF, Mozgov DNP, Frye is a stretch 4. Love at C really hurt the Pistons and Andre & Baynes especially, very difficult matchup.

hoophabit · Post #15 » by **hoophabit** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:18 pm

Joe Berry wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Too hard for some people brains to understand the basketball is all about matchups

Excatly, the Cavs are playing with 0 centers. Thompson is a PF, Mozgov DNP, Frye is a stretch 4. Love at C really hurt the Pistons and Andre & Baynes especially, very difficult matchup.

IMO, the lineup evaluation is not true. It is a matter of matchups, but not according to this explanation. Thompson is a center. The Piston problem with rebounding in this series has to do with the Cavs generally having 3 bigs on the floor to the Piston's one. Love is a real PF and Lebron is a PF so talented that he can play about anywhere. As we have been noting all season long, we need at least one real PF and another athletic PG. Baynes is a pretty good backup center.

StunnaStan · Post #16 » by **StunnaStan** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:43 pm

Joe Berry wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Too hard for some people brains to understand the basketball is all about matchups

Excatly, the Cavs are playing with 0 centers. Thompson is a PF, Mozgov DNP, Frye is a stretch 4. Love at C really hurt the Pistons and Andre & Baynes especially, very difficult matchup.

At the same time, Drummond isnt playing at the level he should be, especially considering he has power fowards guarding him most the time. I wish dre post game was like okafors or cousins.

Dre really 22 though man. His potential is crazy. I only question how much of that potential he'll reach. Even if his skills stayed exactly how they are now, if he just improved his freethrows, he'd be much more of a force than he already is.

hoophabit · Post #17 » by **hoophabit** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:21 pm

StunnaStan wrote:
Joe Berry wrote:
In SVG We Trust wrote:Too hard for some people brains to understand the basketball is all about matchups

Excatly, the Cavs are playing with 0 centers. Thompson is a PF, Mozgov DNP, Frye is a stretch 4. Love at C really hurt the Pistons and Andre & Baynes especially, very difficult matchup.

At the same time, Drummond isnt playing at the level he should be, especially considering he has power fowards guarding him most the time. I wish dre post game was like okafors or cousins.

Dre really 22 though man. His potential is crazy. I only question how much of that potential he'll reach. Even if his skills stayed exactly how they are now, if he just improved his freethrows, he'd be much more of a force than he already is.

I agree that Dre isn't playing at a level he should be. There was the one play against Thompson in one of the early games where he took it to the hoop hard to dunk over him. Haven't seen it since. With his size and strength he should be doing this with some regularity. Sure, you're going to get fouled, but it's better than playing soft and letting them run in bench players to foul you when they like. Put some of those fouls on players where they will make a difference.

Manocad · Post #18 » by **Manocad** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:32 pm

boo hoo hoo

DBC10 · Post #19 » by **DBC10** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:40 pm

hoophabit wrote:
StunnaStan wrote:
Joe Berry wrote:
Excatly, the Cavs are playing with 0 centers. Thompson is a PF, Mozgov DNP, Frye is a stretch 4. Love at C really hurt the Pistons and Andre & Baynes especially, very difficult matchup.

At the same time, Drummond isnt playing at the level he should be, especially considering he has power fowards guarding him most the time. I wish dre post game was like okafors or cousins.

Dre really 22 though man. His potential is crazy. I only question how much of that potential he'll reach. Even if his skills stayed exactly how they are now, if he just improved his freethrows, he'd be much more of a force than he already is.

I agree that Dre isn't playing at a level he should be. There was the one play against Thompson in one of the early games where he took it to the hoop hard to dunk over him. Haven't seen it since. With his size and strength he should be doing this with some regularity. Sure, you're going to get fouled, but it's better than playing soft and letting them run in bench players to foul you when they like. Put some of those fouls on players where they will make a difference.

I think we can also give a lot of credit to TT as well. That guy has showed up for the playoffs once his name has been called. He's been making Dre work on nearly every board and possession.

The fact that TT can go toe toe with Dre on the rebounding end and outrebounding him on the OREBs while being several inches shorter shows how much of a vital part he is for that team.

Spider156 · Post #20 » by **Spider156** » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:44 pm

It's all matchups. There's a reason Baynes doesn't play well against Cleveland. Even Drummond had a very low rebound rate against them. Tristan is that good at rebounding. There's a reason he got paid that much and it's not even worth it against teams like Golden State. Our team still feature a traditional big man so Tristan is going to be that good against us. Give Drummond another year and that's another 5-10 more lbs on him. The older he gets the bigger he gets. Baynes is very good. He'd shatter any other team. Cleveland is this good for a reason. We've just been spoiled against them during the regular season.