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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#1161 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:41 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.

:nod:


Giannis' dad plays basketball?



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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#1162 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 8:44 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.

:nod:


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Re: Giannis' Development 

Post#1163 » by M-C-G » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:04 pm

Nightfall wrote:NBA Countdown made a Top-10 for Giannis

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P2I51ogP2U[/youtube]


That is some hard work widdling the list down to 10.

Number 5 still gets me pumped up, even though it was exhibition game. I just love his reaction
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Post#1164 » by H2tObes » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:12 pm

His career top 10 when its all said and done will not be human

Read the youtube comments on that video, showing some serious love
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Post#1165 » by chonestown » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:14 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.

:nod:


Giannis' dad plays basketball?


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Post#1166 » by emunney » Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:24 pm

Prince12 wrote:What's the date Giannis is eligible to sign the extension? After the finals or?


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Post#1167 » by VooDoo7 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:41 pm

Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.

Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.
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Post#1168 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:56 pm

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Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.

Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.


He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.
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Post#1169 » by VooDoo7 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:05 pm

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Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.

Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.


He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.


Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?

And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.

And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.

My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.

I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.
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Post#1170 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:10 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.


He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.


Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?

And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.

And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.

My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.

I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.


There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.
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Post#1171 » by VooDoo7 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:32 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
He only went 40+ on back to back nights o It's not like this was a frequent thing.


Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?

And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.

And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.

My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.

I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.


There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.

Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.

Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.
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Post#1172 » by EmperorXyn » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:36 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.


Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?

And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.

And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.

My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.

I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.


There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.


I think Giannis is a really rare young player and at this point at his age will only benifit from more play time. I agree with you.
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Post#1173 » by ReasonablySober » Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:41 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?

And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.

And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.

My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.

I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.


There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.

Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.

Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.


I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.
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Post#1174 » by Fotis St » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:01 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.

:nod:


In fact there is one player that Giannis 2 years ago when he asked if any other Greek player could play in the NBA ... Giannis said one name ... Charalambopoulos ... currently playing for Panathinaikos ... a lefty Jabari Parker kind of player, but not having playing time cause Panathinaikos have bad coaches, no plan for developing, and only one goal to win Greek Championship or the European Championship now... So I wish an NBA Team especially the Bucks could get him out of there and get the chance to play as he deserves. Really Greek Players are so talented at young age ... but cause there isn't the draft process they are stuck in Panathinaikos and Olympiacos bench for years !!! Hope NBA Teams get Greek players at the age of Giannis ... cause the "experiment" with Giannis was a success ... Wish Hammond have nice time and good hunting !!!
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Post#1175 » by emunney » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:03 am

We should have shut Giannis down in January.
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Post#1176 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:13 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
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There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.

Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.

Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.


I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.

Do you have an issue with Giannis playing for Greece this summer?
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Post#1177 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:15 am

VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.

Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.


I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.

Do you have an issue with Giannis playing for Greece this summer?


I wish he wouldn't, but it's because I'd rather he spend his time in the gym working on making 1000 three pointers every day.
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Post#1178 » by ReasonablySober » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:17 am

emunney wrote:We should have shut Giannis down in January.


That's taking this argument to its logical conclusion, right? Season was over, nothing left to do but tank for a pick.
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Post#1179 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:22 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.

Do you have an issue with Giannis playing for Greece this summer?


I wish he wouldn't, but it's because I'd rather he spend his time in the gym working on making 1000 three pointers every day.
Well Chapter said he didn't want him playing this summer in fear of injury and being overworked. All while giving others hell when they were worried about Giannis being overworked this year.

And that's why I addressed him about it.
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Post#1180 » by VooDoo7 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 12:23 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
emunney wrote:We should have shut Giannis down in January.


That's taking this argument to its logical conclusion, right? Season was over, nothing left to do but tank for a pick.
Yeah, because there's no middle ground between Giannis not playing at all, and Giannis playing 40 minutes in meaningless games down the stretch, or playing 2-3 straight quarters with no rest.

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