Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.
Giannis' dad plays basketball?
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Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?

Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.
Nightfall wrote:NBA Countdown made a Top-10 for Giannis
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SupremeHustle wrote:Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.
Giannis' dad plays basketball?
Prince12 wrote:What's the date Giannis is eligible to sign the extension? After the finals or?
Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.

VooDoo7 wrote:Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.
Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.
ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:Chapter29 wrote:And spend unnecessary energy learning a new system with new players risking injury and in general being overworked. This energy is better spent training and well not spent resting.
Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.
He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.

VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:Yet when I and others this year bitched about Kidd playing him for 2-3 quarters with no rest, or playing him 40 minutes in back to back games, you thought we were dumb.
He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.
Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?
And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.
And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.
My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.
I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.
ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:
He only went 40+ on back to back nights o It's not like this was a frequent thing.
Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?
And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.
And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.
My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.
I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.
There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.
ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:
He only went 40+ on back to back nights once. It's not like this was a frequent thing.
Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?
And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.
And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.
My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.
I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.
There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.

VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:
Ok. Then I'll say "big minutes". Better?
And then there was the playing huge minutes in games that didn't matter. Or games that were blowouts.
And the best...playing for loooong stretches during games with no rest.
My point remains. If Chapter is gonna give the people who had issues with Kidd's handling of his minutes crap, then he sure in the hell shouldn't be worried about the handful of minutes Giannis will see playing for Greece.
I mean, we all knew he'd be playing this summer. That's part of the reason many were upset with the way Kidd handled his minutes this season, especially after the AS break, and in meaningless games.
There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.
Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.
Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.
Ron Swanson wrote:Hammond there to scout Papagiannis no doubt.
ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:
There isn't even evidence that suggests there's anything wrong or harmful about any of what you're saying. For me at least, this is a case of the player and coach knowing more about the condition of the player than I do watching on a couch.
Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.
Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.
I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.

VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:Except that there is such thing as fatigue injuries with joints and muscles/ligaments. If you wanna ignore that, fine.
Also, just from a stupid coaching standpoint, how many times did Giannis and Jabari play crazy minutes thru the first 3 quarters with barely any rest, only to then either look dead tired down the stretch, or Kidd finally having to give them a rest during a crucial stretch of a game.
I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.
Do you have an issue with Giannis playing for Greece this summer?

emunney wrote:We should have shut Giannis down in January.
Well Chapter said he didn't want him playing this summer in fear of injury and being overworked. All while giving others hell when they were worried about Giannis being overworked this year.ReasonablySober wrote:VooDoo7 wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:
I'm not ignoring anything. With Thibs in the news lately it's just another thing I've been reading about, and no one has definitively linked big minutes to injury frequency. I'm not even sure any of what you're describing would even qualify. Even if it did, you would have to know whether or not Parker and Giannis even felt signs of fatigue. They're both young, incredible athletes. Someone on a couch has zero clue what they're capable of handling. The coaching and training staff absolutely does. I think you're mostly bothered that those minutes contributed to winning games.
Do you have an issue with Giannis playing for Greece this summer?
I wish he wouldn't, but it's because I'd rather he spend his time in the gym working on making 1000 three pointers every day.
Yeah, because there's no middle ground between Giannis not playing at all, and Giannis playing 40 minutes in meaningless games down the stretch, or playing 2-3 straight quarters with no rest.ReasonablySober wrote:emunney wrote:We should have shut Giannis down in January.
That's taking this argument to its logical conclusion, right? Season was over, nothing left to do but tank for a pick.