deeps6x wrote:DreamTeam09 wrote:Double Helix wrote:Another way of thinking about it now that we've all spent more time getting to look at how an elite face up prospect can be integrated on a playoff team. Are you impressed with Myles Turner's mix of face up game and net protection? Do you think Indiana stole him late lotto last year and that he will be much better in the coming years? I'd say that coming out of college Myles Turner had some of the same strengths and perhaps more concerning weaknesses than Skal. Turner was longer and bulkier and had shown more 3 point shooting range but is/was less mobile overall than Skal is and seems to have a lower bball IQ (or used to anyway).
Man I almost fairly certain we and Masai more importantly takes Skal at 9. He gives us a lot of what the starting line up is missing and fits the defensive narrative we want to implement. Probably the best shot blocker in college basketball at 19yrs who is a PF is sitting at 9 and the raps are going to pass on him? No way.
I also think he is not as big of a project as it's being made out to be and probably won't have to play a lot in the 905 this year. We started Powell for several games and have had a rotating door at pf the whole season. Skal can come in here next yr and start for us in the same manner freaking scola started for us. If Skal is able to stay on the floor and not pick up fouls, then he can start for us. We have guys who can throw him lobs and he already has the pick n pop midrange game so our offense suits him.
Defensively he can hedge out aggressively and switch on to guards and not be on an island. He's too perfect next to val. His vertical game next to Val has me drooling. Teams won't be able to adjust to that or even compensate. Plus he has so much room to grow.
Skal will be a Raptor, i'm quite certain of it.
I looked at Turner as a great potential addition on D. He wasn't a super efficient shooter, but he did have 3 point range. College 3 at least. But he was a great rebounder and shot blocker, and his DRtg was great. BPM was pretty good as well. Davis is kind of the Turner of this draft.
Turner also was a very high motor player. Rabb was the same, which is why I wanted him. Skal and Davis are a step down motor wise.
I've added Turner's college numbers for comparison.
11.8 TRB, N/A 3pt%, .598 FG%, .598 eFG%, 16.1 Pts, 1.6 Ast, 0.6 Stl, 3.9 Blk, .601 TS%, 23.9 PER, ORtg 121.4, DRtg 90.9, BPM 10.8. D Davis
11.9 TRB, N/A 3pt%, .615 FG%, .616 eFG%, 17.5 Pts, 1.3 Ast, 0.7 Stl, 1.7 Blk, .636 TS%, 24.2 PER, ORtg 124.8, DRtg 95.3, BPM 8.7. Ivan Rabb
8.6 TRB, .350 3pt%, .530 FG%, .561 eFG%, 22.1 Pts, 1.2 Ast, 1.5 Stl, 2.2 Blk, .585 TS%, 21.7 PER, ORtg 112.0, DRtg 102.2, BPM 5.9. Chriss
8.9 TRB, .329 3pt%, .462 FG%, .510 eFG%, 25.4 Pts, 1.3 Ast, 1.0 Stl, 1.2 Blk, .567 TS%, 24.7 PER, ORtg 115.6, DRtg 99.8, BPM 6.7. Ben Bentil
11.6 TRB, .288 3pt%, .446 FG%, .480 eFG%, 20.3 Pts, 2.1 Ast, 1.0 Stl, 1.8 Blk, .534 TS%, 20.9 PER, ORtg 106.3, DRtg 98.5, BPM 3.6. Ellenson
8.0 TRB, N/A 3pt%, .516 FG%, .516 eFG%, 16.7 Pts, 0.8 Ast, 0.6 Stl, 4.2 Blk, .540 TS%, 18.5 PER, ORtg 107.8, DRtg 96.9, BPM 5.2. Skal Labissiere
12.7 TRB, .250 3pt%, .566 FG%, .570 eFG%, 19.5 Pts, 2.1 Ast, 0.9 Stl, 4.3 Blk, .627 TS%, 31.4 PER, ORtg 126.8, DRtg 78.1, BPM 17.3. KAT
11.8 TRB, .274 3pt%, .455 FG%, .488 eFG%, 18.3 Pts, 1.1 Ast, 0.5 Stl, 4.7 Blk, .556 TS%, 25.5 PER, ORtg 112.6, DRtg 86.3, BPM 8.7. Myles Turner
When you say you want Skal because he is a shot blocker, you must be ignoring that Davis is right there with Skal for blocks/40. Both are superior to the rest of the draft class. However, Davis is a better shooter, a much better rebounder, a better defender, hell, everything is better except for shot blocking. And Davis is almost a year younger. And not a foul machine.
I just don't see how Masai could take Skal over Davis based on current info. Maybe Skal blows everyone away in the combine/workouts/interviews and gets an edge there, but otherwise... why would we pick him?
