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Post#21 » by Damkac » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:31 pm

I hope Bledsoe and Knight will start next year strong and then get traded for good return. I don't feel like either will be Suns pg for the future.
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Post#22 » by RationalGaze » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:14 pm

Here's some names to look at for next year's draft that weren't mentioned
Edrice Adebayo PF
Sacha Killy-Jones PF
Wenyen Gabriel SF
Malik Monk SG/PG
Isaiah Briscoe PG (needs to show that improved jumper towards the end of the season for the upcoming season)
Tai Wynyard PF
Frank Jackson PG
Miles Bridges SF
Marques Bolden PF/C
Josh Langford SG
Kobi Simmons PG
Andrew Jones PG
Omari Spellman PF

And that's not including international talent. This draft could be deeper than 24 lottery picks.
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Post#23 » by Lazy10 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:27 pm

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Yeah there was no conensus #1 last year KAT only dethroned Jah late in the process and some talking heads thought he would be Al Horford at best , Russell was though to be the most bust prone. 2014 hasn't really lived up to the billing, Embiid might end up an another unfulfilled genrational talent liek Oden Wiggins/Parker could have some All-Star selections in their future but don't look the part of bona fide franchise players. 2017 is insanely stacked at PG, I think Josh Jackson could be the closest thing to prime TMac and Tatum may be the best recent SF coming out of Duke which is saing a lot

Tatum is Rudy Gay 2.0 dont buy the hype. Josh Jackson is going to be superstar, hes Wiggins with an actual motor. 2017 draft = 2009 draft. 2009 draft loaded with PGs Evans, Rubio, Curry, Flynn, Lawson, Holiday and 2017 is loaded with PG. 4 PGs will go in top 10 in 2017 Draft. Fultz and Fox are best PGs in 2017 class with Ntilikina close 3rd. 2017 draft is going to be loaded and Suns should def tank


That's what scares me is that after the top 4 or 5, the next five are like all point guards...there might even be 1 or 2 in the mix for top 5, though I can't remember off the top of my head. Though next year we might need a pg if Bledsoe's injuries return since Knight isn't really a PG either, unless we take Dunn this year.

Suns def need to trade Bledsoe whenever his value gets the highest. This year just draft BPA if thats PG Murray, PF Bender or SF Brown. I dont like Dunn because he cant shoot 3s and PGs in today NBA who cant shoot 3s arent valuable unless elite playmakers and defenders and Dunn is neither. So lets say Suns get #3 and pick Bender and then next year draft the Suns have top 5 pick and select PG Fultz who is similar to Russell and Murray.


Fultz/Booker/Warren/Bender/Len

Have extra 2 1sts in this year draft and you'll be able to get 1st + something for Bledsoe and do true rebuild. Draft Luwawu with 13th pick and then draft stash with 28th pick
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Lazy10 wrote:Tatum is Rudy Gay 2.0 dont buy the hype. Josh Jackson is going to be superstar, hes Wiggins with an actual motor. 2017 draft = 2009 draft. 2009 draft loaded with PGs Evans, Rubio, Curry, Flynn, Lawson, Holiday and 2017 is loaded with PG. 4 PGs will go in top 10 in 2017 Draft. Fultz and Fox are best PGs in 2017 class with Ntilikina close 3rd. 2017 draft is going to be loaded and Suns should def tank


That's what scares me is that after the top 4 or 5, the next five are like all point guards...there might even be 1 or 2 in the mix for top 5, though I can't remember off the top of my head. Though next year we might need a pg if Bledsoe's injuries return since Knight isn't really a PG either, unless we take Dunn this year.

Suns def need to trade Bledsoe whenever his value gets the highest. This year just draft BPA if thats PG Murray, PF Bender or SF Brown. I dont like Dunn because he cant shoot 3s and PGs in today NBA who cant shoot 3s arent valuable unless elite playmakers and defenders and Dunn is neither. So lets say Suns get #3 and pick Bender and then next year draft the Suns have top 5 pick and select PG Fultz who is similar to Russell and Murray.


Fultz/Booker/Warren/Bender/Len

Have extra 2 1sts in this year draft and you'll be able to get 1st + something for Bledsoe and do true rebuild. Draft Luwawu with 13th pick and then draft stash with 28th pick


Sounds good to me if Bender pans out and reaches perceived potential, however if we are drafting that high I'd hope to get Jackson or Giles, or around 5-7 maybe Bryant or Bolden. I wouldn't mind finding PG in FA because it is loaded, and that is a position where a little more experience makes sense to get the most out of your young guys (ala Nash with JJ, Amare, etc).

I would like to draft a PG too but unless they are can't miss like Wall or Paul, it's hard to take one that high if there are good bigs available.

I need to see how Fultz and the rest of next year's PG crop play in college to get a better idea. That's why it might be good to trade out and get a pick next year if possible in the late lotto. That's why it REALLY would have been nice to have that Lakers pick instead of Knight because if they keep their pick this year, there is a good chance it would convey next year, and even if it was like the 9th pick, that is probably better than getting the 4th pick this year. But, ya know, we have Knight.
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The final ESPN 100 rankings are in the books and the next stop for the Class of 2016 is the college hardwood. Here’s a look inside the final rankings:

Why Harry Giles stayed No.1
When Giles tore his ACL, he was the most dominant and consistent high school prospect in the country. He was a true difference-maker. We never penalized him for his injury, in fact we rewarded him for his play. At 6-foot-10, with incredibly huge hands and a soft touch, Giles was a factor on both ends of the court. Giles plays with a high motor, controls the paint and has displayed a smooth catch-and-shoot jumper. Perhaps his biggest area of impact is his shot-blocking and rebounding. Giles has a desire to go get the ball off the rim and protect the basket. With such a talented core returning to Duke, and the No. 2 class coming in, Giles will have time to get healthy and be a major factor.

“Everything is going great with my rehab,” Giles said. “Right now I am strengthening my legs, doing some light jumps, shooting a lot of free throws and handling the ball in a stationary position. Next will be some straight line running. I expect to be ready by November.”

Movement inside the top 10
In most classes, Josh Jackson or Jayson Tatum could easily be the No. 1 player. Jackson continues to impose his will. The small forward’s versatility and ability to impact the game in so many different categories moves him to the No. 2 spot. Offensively, he thrives in transition by finishing and he can score at ease in the half-court set. It’s no secret his jumper is under construction, but he's a playmaker with a high basketball IQ and his real worth on the defensive end. He's a committed and tenacious defender who can switch on to almost any offensive player and make a stop.

Tatum, at No. 3 has a gift for scoring in a variety of ways. He’s a difficult matchup in the half-court set because he scores with a much-improved 3-point shot and a middle game that is the best in the class.

When you make a jump inside the top 10 you are special. Markelle Fultz moved from 10 to 7. He plays under control while scoring with effectiveness and efficiency. Frank Jackson earned the No. 10 spot with his explosiveness as well as demonstrating the ability to adapt to the point guard spot.
Risers in the 100
In a class with some outstanding big men, Jarrett Allen climbed up four spots (19 to 15) and oozes with potential. At 6-10, with a 7-5 wing span, the Texas native blocks, changes and challenges anything in the paint. He also scores with fluidness and footwork with either hand at the rim. His mobility, a short-range jumper and length make him a legitimate low-post threat.

Braxton Key made a huge jump (54 to 33) and played with a high level of consistency all year. The Alabama signee was Oak Hill’s MVP in winning the Dick’s Nationals championship. Key displayed versatility and produced in many different ways all year long.

James Banks (72 to 57), a Texas signee, is a difference-maker, protecting the paint with his shot-blocking range, energy on the glass and finishing ability. He is slowly putting it all together, possessing all the physical tools and a soft touch.

Best since 2007
The Class of 2016, especially the top 25, is one of the strongest collections of talent since the Class of 2007, which had Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, O.J. Mayo, Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin. This year's group has 28 five-star prospects. The only other class with more five-star prospects was the Class of 2014, which produced 29. That class also had massive star power at the top with Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon. There is no franchise player the 2016 class but there is a lot of potential. One name worth remembering is Dennis Smith Jr., a former top-five prospect who tore his ACL and enrolled at NC State in January.


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2016 ESPN 100
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RK PLAYER POS HOMETOWN HT WT STARS GRADE SCHOOL
1
Harry Giles
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PF Winston-Salem, NC
Oak Hill Academy 6'9'' 230 97
DUKE
SIGNED
2
Josh Jackson
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SF Southfield, MI
Prolific Prep 6'7'' 195 97
KANSAS
COMMITTED
04/11/2016
3
Jayson Tatum
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SF Saint Louis, MO
Chaminade College Prep 6'9'' 203 97
DUKE
SIGNED
4
Lonzo Ball
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PG Chino Hills, CA
Chino Hills High School 6'5'' 195 96
UCLA
SIGNED
5
Bam Adebayo
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PF Pinetown, NC
High Point Christian Academy 6'9'' 240 96
KENTUCKY
SIGNED
6
De'Aaron Fox
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PG Katy, TX
Cypress Lakes High School 6'3'' 185 96
KENTUCKY
SIGNED
7
Markelle Fultz
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PG Upper Marlboro, MD
DeMatha Catholic High School 6'4'' 190 96
WASHINGTON
SIGNED
8
Miles Bridges
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SF Flint, MI
Huntington Prep 6'7'' 225 96
MICHIGAN ST
SIGNED
9
Malik Monk
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SG Bentonville, AR
Bentonville High School 6'3'' 185 96
KENTUCKY
SIGNED
10
Frank Jackson
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PG Alpine, UT
Lone Peak High School 6'4'' 195 96
DUKE
SIGNED
11
Terrance Ferguson
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SG Dallas, TX
Advanced Prep International 6'7'' 190 94
ARIZONA
COMMITTED
04/13/2016
12
Jonathan Isaac
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SF Naples, FL
IMG Academy 6'9'' 200 94
FLORIDA ST
SIGNED
13
T.J. Leaf
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ESPN 100
PF El Cajon, CA
Foothills Christian High School 6'9'' 215 94
UCLA
SIGNED
14
Wenyen Gabriel
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PF Manchester, NH
Wilbraham & Monson Academy 6'10'' 210 94
KENTUCKY
SIGNED
15
Jarrett Allen
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
C Austin, TX
Saint Stephen's Episcopal School 6'10'' 235 93
List
16
Marques Bolden
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
C Dallas, TX
DeSoto High School 6'10'' 240 93
List
17
Tony Bradley
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
C Bartow, FL
Bartow High School 6'10'' 235 93
N CAROLINA
SIGNED
18
Omari Spellman
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PF North Royalton, OH
St. Thomas More School 6'9'' 275 93
VILLANOVA
SIGNED
19
Josh Langford
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SG Huntsville, AL
Madison Academy 6'5'' 215 93
MICHIGAN ST
SIGNED
20
Kobi Simmons
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
PG Alpharetta, GA
St. Francis High School 6'6'' 185 92
ARIZONA
COMMITTED
01/16/2016
21
Rawle Alkins
Video | Scouts Report
ESPN 100
SF Brooklyn, NY
Word of God Christian Academy 6'4'' 200 92
ARIZONA
COMMITTED
03/07/2016


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Post#26 » by MathiasPW » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:22 pm

Three Arizona commited players in the top 20.

Loved some of the descriptions, specially of Jarret Allen, the 6,10' PF with 7, 5' span that is a defensive monster.
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Post#27 » by saintEscaton » Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:25 pm

A late lotto pick in 2017 will probably be better than a Top 6 pick in 2016. Don't mind deferred gratification if it pays off
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Post#28 » by bwgood77 » Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:39 pm

saintEscaton wrote:A late lotto pick in 2017 will probably be better than a Top 6 pick in 2016. Don't mind deferred gratification if it pays off


That's why that Lakers pick would be nice even if it hadn't conveyed this year. I was originally hoping/expecting that it didn't, and even a little worse pick next year would be nice.
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Post#29 » by Lazy10 » Wed Apr 27, 2016 3:05 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
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That's what scares me is that after the top 4 or 5, the next five are like all point guards...there might even be 1 or 2 in the mix for top 5, though I can't remember off the top of my head. Though next year we might need a pg if Bledsoe's injuries return since Knight isn't really a PG either, unless we take Dunn this year.

Suns def need to trade Bledsoe whenever his value gets the highest. This year just draft BPA if thats PG Murray, PF Bender or SF Brown. I dont like Dunn because he cant shoot 3s and PGs in today NBA who cant shoot 3s arent valuable unless elite playmakers and defenders and Dunn is neither. So lets say Suns get #3 and pick Bender and then next year draft the Suns have top 5 pick and select PG Fultz who is similar to Russell and Murray.


Fultz/Booker/Warren/Bender/Len

Have extra 2 1sts in this year draft and you'll be able to get 1st + something for Bledsoe and do true rebuild. Draft Luwawu with 13th pick and then draft stash with 28th pick


Sounds good to me if Bender pans out and reaches perceived potential, however if we are drafting that high I'd hope to get Jackson or Giles, or around 5-7 maybe Bryant or Bolden. I wouldn't mind finding PG in FA because it is loaded, and that is a position where a little more experience makes sense to get the most out of your young guys (ala Nash with JJ, Amare, etc).

I would like to draft a PG too but unless they are can't miss like Wall or Paul, it's hard to take one that high if there are good bigs available.

I need to see how Fultz and the rest of next year's PG crop play in college to get a better idea. That's why it might be good to trade out and get a pick next year if possible in the late lotto. That's why it REALLY would have been nice to have that Lakers pick instead of Knight because if they keep their pick this year, there is a good chance it would convey next year, and even if it was like the 9th pick, that is probably better than getting the 4th pick this year. But, ya know, we have Knight.

Yeah its going to be hard to get picks in next year draft because this year draft supposed to be weak and next year draft is supposed to be great draft so thats why Suns need to trade Bledsoe, best way to get decent pick for next year draft. Suns take BPA this year draft whether thats Bender, Brown, Murray or Dunn. Im not sure Suns will have the balls to take Bender tbh. Suns going to take Murray, Dunn or Brown. Murray and Booker backcourt will be really nice shooting backcourt but their defense will be shaky. Kris Dunn provides good playmaking and above average defender but he cant shoot. Brown is most athletic player in the draft but is raw offensively so will take him some time to be decent scorer. Right now I see Suns leaning towards Murray as Suns would want their own version of Splash Bros. Then Suns take PF Marquise Chriss with 13th pick. Then draft and stash with late 1st.

Murray/Booker/Warren/Chriss/Len

2017 draft the Suns get lucky and have top 2 pick to select Josh Jackson

Murray/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Len

Thats complete lineup. Great shooting backcourt, 2way SF, Floor spacing PF and hopefully Len lives up to potential and becomes rim protecting C with scoring skills.
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Lazy10 wrote:
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Lazy10 wrote:Suns def need to trade Bledsoe whenever his value gets the highest. This year just draft BPA if thats PG Murray, PF Bender or SF Brown. I dont like Dunn because he cant shoot 3s and PGs in today NBA who cant shoot 3s arent valuable unless elite playmakers and defenders and Dunn is neither. So lets say Suns get #3 and pick Bender and then next year draft the Suns have top 5 pick and select PG Fultz who is similar to Russell and Murray.


Fultz/Booker/Warren/Bender/Len

Have extra 2 1sts in this year draft and you'll be able to get 1st + something for Bledsoe and do true rebuild. Draft Luwawu with 13th pick and then draft stash with 28th pick


Sounds good to me if Bender pans out and reaches perceived potential, however if we are drafting that high I'd hope to get Jackson or Giles, or around 5-7 maybe Bryant or Bolden. I wouldn't mind finding PG in FA because it is loaded, and that is a position where a little more experience makes sense to get the most out of your young guys (ala Nash with JJ, Amare, etc).

I would like to draft a PG too but unless they are can't miss like Wall or Paul, it's hard to take one that high if there are good bigs available.

I need to see how Fultz and the rest of next year's PG crop play in college to get a better idea. That's why it might be good to trade out and get a pick next year if possible in the late lotto. That's why it REALLY would have been nice to have that Lakers pick instead of Knight because if they keep their pick this year, there is a good chance it would convey next year, and even if it was like the 9th pick, that is probably better than getting the 4th pick this year. But, ya know, we have Knight.

Yeah its going to be hard to get picks in next year draft because this year draft supposed to be weak and next year draft is supposed to be great draft so thats why Suns need to trade Bledsoe, best way to get decent pick for next year draft. Suns take BPA this year draft whether thats Bender, Brown, Murray or Dunn. Im not sure Suns will have the balls to take Bender tbh. Suns going to take Murray, Dunn or Brown. Murray and Booker backcourt will be really nice shooting backcourt but their defense will be shaky. Kris Dunn provides good playmaking and above average defender but he cant shoot. Brown is most athletic player in the draft but is raw offensively so will take him some time to be decent scorer. Right now I see Suns leaning towards Murray as Suns would want their own version of Splash Bros. Then Suns take PF Marquise Chriss with 13th pick. Then draft and stash with late 1st.

Murray/Booker/Warren/Chriss/Len

2017 draft the Suns get lucky and have top 2 pick to select Josh Jackson

Murray/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Len

Thats complete lineup. Great shooting backcourt, 2way SF, Floor spacing PF and hopefully Len lives up to potential and becomes rim protecting C with scoring skills.


I was wondering yesterday if they did somehow bring Vesely over if that would make them more or less likely to draft Bender if he was available if they pick at 3,4 or 5. On one hand, you already have that Euro PF and you don't want two potential busts (though I imagine this time around, at a minimum, Vesely is at least a rotation player) but Vesely could probably warn and possibly be the right guy to make sure Bender doesn't assume he can just make it and realize how hard he has to work, or what he needs to focus on that Vesely wasn't ready on his first go around.

I have no idea what to expect with Jamal Murray and whether he can be an elite passer who doesn't turn the ball over.

Also, what team do you think would want Bledsoe right now or possibly give up something of value for him? He is a talented guy, but few teams need point guards and he has huge red injury flags.
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Post#31 » by MathiasPW » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:37 pm

A Murray/Booker backcourt may work even without any of them being a playmaker due to their ability in finding open looks through screens.

I wouldn't go with Chriss at the PF for that team though. I'd look for a better passing/driving 4 to start the play at the top of the key. Leuer actually fits that bill.
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Post#32 » by saintEscaton » Wed Apr 27, 2016 4:54 pm

So who is the two-way player in that lineup? Don't tell me that its Len :lol: . No more combo guards plz,gimme Dennis Smith JR. How is he not listed?
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Post#33 » by Lazy10 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:24 am

saintEscaton wrote:So who is the two-way player in that lineup? Don't tell me that its Len :lol: . No more combo guards plz,gimme Dennis Smith J. How is he not listed?

2way player is Josh Jackson
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Post#34 » by Lazy10 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 2:26 am

bwgood77 wrote:
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Sounds good to me if Bender pans out and reaches perceived potential, however if we are drafting that high I'd hope to get Jackson or Giles, or around 5-7 maybe Bryant or Bolden. I wouldn't mind finding PG in FA because it is loaded, and that is a position where a little more experience makes sense to get the most out of your young guys (ala Nash with JJ, Amare, etc).

I would like to draft a PG too but unless they are can't miss like Wall or Paul, it's hard to take one that high if there are good bigs available.

I need to see how Fultz and the rest of next year's PG crop play in college to get a better idea. That's why it might be good to trade out and get a pick next year if possible in the late lotto. That's why it REALLY would have been nice to have that Lakers pick instead of Knight because if they keep their pick this year, there is a good chance it would convey next year, and even if it was like the 9th pick, that is probably better than getting the 4th pick this year. But, ya know, we have Knight.

Yeah its going to be hard to get picks in next year draft because this year draft supposed to be weak and next year draft is supposed to be great draft so thats why Suns need to trade Bledsoe, best way to get decent pick for next year draft. Suns take BPA this year draft whether thats Bender, Brown, Murray or Dunn. Im not sure Suns will have the balls to take Bender tbh. Suns going to take Murray, Dunn or Brown. Murray and Booker backcourt will be really nice shooting backcourt but their defense will be shaky. Kris Dunn provides good playmaking and above average defender but he cant shoot. Brown is most athletic player in the draft but is raw offensively so will take him some time to be decent scorer. Right now I see Suns leaning towards Murray as Suns would want their own version of Splash Bros. Then Suns take PF Marquise Chriss with 13th pick. Then draft and stash with late 1st.

Murray/Booker/Warren/Chriss/Len

2017 draft the Suns get lucky and have top 2 pick to select Josh Jackson

Murray/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Len

Thats complete lineup. Great shooting backcourt, 2way SF, Floor spacing PF and hopefully Len lives up to potential and becomes rim protecting C with scoring skills.


I was wondering yesterday if they did somehow bring Vesely over if that would make them more or less likely to draft Bender if he was available if they pick at 3,4 or 5. On one hand, you already have that Euro PF and you don't want two potential busts (though I imagine this time around, at a minimum, Vesely is at least a rotation player) but Vesely could probably warn and possibly be the right guy to make sure Bender doesn't assume he can just make it and realize how hard he has to work, or what he needs to focus on that Vesely wasn't ready on his first go around.

I have no idea what to expect with Jamal Murray and whether he can be an elite passer who doesn't turn the ball over.

Also, what team do you think would want Bledsoe right now or possibly give up something of value for him? He is a talented guy, but few teams need point guards and he has huge red injury flags.

Utah, Houston, Knicks would go for him
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Lazy10 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
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Yeah its going to be hard to get picks in next year draft because this year draft supposed to be weak and next year draft is supposed to be great draft so thats why Suns need to trade Bledsoe, best way to get decent pick for next year draft. Suns take BPA this year draft whether thats Bender, Brown, Murray or Dunn. Im not sure Suns will have the balls to take Bender tbh. Suns going to take Murray, Dunn or Brown. Murray and Booker backcourt will be really nice shooting backcourt but their defense will be shaky. Kris Dunn provides good playmaking and above average defender but he cant shoot. Brown is most athletic player in the draft but is raw offensively so will take him some time to be decent scorer. Right now I see Suns leaning towards Murray as Suns would want their own version of Splash Bros. Then Suns take PF Marquise Chriss with 13th pick. Then draft and stash with late 1st.

Murray/Booker/Warren/Chriss/Len

2017 draft the Suns get lucky and have top 2 pick to select Josh Jackson

Murray/Booker/Jackson/Chriss/Len

Thats complete lineup. Great shooting backcourt, 2way SF, Floor spacing PF and hopefully Len lives up to potential and becomes rim protecting C with scoring skills.


I was wondering yesterday if they did somehow bring Vesely over if that would make them more or less likely to draft Bender if he was available if they pick at 3,4 or 5. On one hand, you already have that Euro PF and you don't want two potential busts (though I imagine this time around, at a minimum, Vesely is at least a rotation player) but Vesely could probably warn and possibly be the right guy to make sure Bender doesn't assume he can just make it and realize how hard he has to work, or what he needs to focus on that Vesely wasn't ready on his first go around.

I have no idea what to expect with Jamal Murray and whether he can be an elite passer who doesn't turn the ball over.

Also, what team do you think would want Bledsoe right now or possibly give up something of value for him? He is a talented guy, but few teams need point guards and he has huge red injury flags.

Utah, Houston, Knicks would go for him


Not sure about Houston..they already tried with another ball handler next to Harden...Harden for all intents and purposes, plays the point guard role. If Bled could just turn into spot up shooter and defender, fine, but it's a hefty price. They kind of already have that.

Utah....it depends on who they would have to give up, but I don't think they give up a premier player for an injury prone pg, and also if they don't give up a premier player, I don't know if they can have that much salary with their upcoming contract renewals, though some might be after Bled expires, or they could trade him if/when Exum is ready.

NY - maybe, but not sure if they have anything worthy to trade for that they would trade for him.
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Re: 2017 Draft 

Post#36 » by Lazy10 » Tue May 3, 2016 2:56 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
Lazy10 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
I was wondering yesterday if they did somehow bring Vesely over if that would make them more or less likely to draft Bender if he was available if they pick at 3,4 or 5. On one hand, you already have that Euro PF and you don't want two potential busts (though I imagine this time around, at a minimum, Vesely is at least a rotation player) but Vesely could probably warn and possibly be the right guy to make sure Bender doesn't assume he can just make it and realize how hard he has to work, or what he needs to focus on that Vesely wasn't ready on his first go around.

I have no idea what to expect with Jamal Murray and whether he can be an elite passer who doesn't turn the ball over.

Also, what team do you think would want Bledsoe right now or possibly give up something of value for him? He is a talented guy, but few teams need point guards and he has huge red injury flags.

Utah, Houston, Knicks would go for him


Not sure about Houston..they already tried with another ball handler next to Harden...Harden for all intents and purposes, plays the point guard role. If Bled could just turn into spot up shooter and defender, fine, but it's a hefty price. They kind of already have that.

Utah....it depends on who they would have to give up, but I don't think they give up a premier player for an injury prone pg, and also if they don't give up a premier player, I don't know if they can have that much salary with their upcoming contract renewals, though some might be after Bled expires, or they could trade him if/when Exum is ready.

NY - maybe, but not sure if they have anything worthy to trade for that they would trade for him.

Either way the Suns desperately need to tank for next year draft, dont make the same mistake in 2014

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