Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee

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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#21 » by bakesale » Thu May 5, 2016 2:01 am

stephanieg wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Platelets don't help you perform better, as they don't carry oxygen.


So he's wasting his money?

Anything that helps you recover faster makes you perform better than you would without it, especially if the alternative is not performing at all. If Curry comes back at 80% instead of 70% thanks to this procedure then that's performing better. If he comes back earlier than he would naturally, he's performing better.

Personally, I don't care. Shoot some HGH in there, whatever.

Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#22 » by D.Brasco » Thu May 5, 2016 2:10 am

bakesale wrote:
stephanieg wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Platelets don't help you perform better, as they don't carry oxygen.


So he's wasting his money?

Anything that helps you recover faster makes you perform better than you would without it, especially if the alternative is not performing at all. If Curry comes back at 80% instead of 70% thanks to this procedure then that's performing better. If he comes back earlier than he would naturally, he's performing better.

Personally, I don't care. Shoot some HGH in there, whatever.

Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.


One of the main reasons athletes turn to HGH is for its recovery purposes.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#23 » by bakesale » Thu May 5, 2016 2:40 am

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bakesale wrote:
stephanieg wrote:
So he's wasting his money?

Anything that helps you recover faster makes you perform better than you would without it, especially if the alternative is not performing at all. If Curry comes back at 80% instead of 70% thanks to this procedure then that's performing better. If he comes back earlier than he would naturally, he's performing better.

Personally, I don't care. Shoot some HGH in there, whatever.

Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.


One of the main reasons athletes turn to HGH is for its recovery purposes.

But the sheer fact that HGH can enhance your performance means that it is banned. PRP is only used as a method for recovery. Do you see the difference yet?
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#24 » by miltk » Thu May 5, 2016 3:37 am

well,,,it ain't no simple "2weeks of rest", so it is definitely a problem no matter what's said.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#25 » by Teen Girl Squad » Thu May 5, 2016 5:16 am

miltk wrote:well,,,it ain't no simple "2weeks of rest", so it is definitely a problem no matter what's said.


Its a 2-4 week injury. Sports fans always turn that into "hopefully he's out for only 2," then "he'll be back in two weeks max!" and then "OMG its been 10 days and he's not back yet! Must be serious!" He's just doing everything he can to enhance recovery (world class athletes have access to that stuff and a reason to hurry back while most people are just happy to have an excuse to not go to the gym for a few more weeks).
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#26 » by NBAfan3024 » Thu May 5, 2016 5:38 am

He will be back when he's 100% and not a second sooner. Luckily we may not need him in this series
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#27 » by michaelm » Thu May 5, 2016 11:58 am

stephanieg wrote:Cortisone shots = Perfectly acceptable.
PEDs = OMG cheater.
Blood doping = OMG cheater.
Platelet injections = Isn't science great?

People are weird.

Where do you place reconstructive surgery after an ACL injury?
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#28 » by michaelm » Thu May 5, 2016 12:04 pm

GobertReport wrote:Is his injury worse than originally thought? I thought this was used only to help avoid surgery.

It is a relatively minor injury if it is as publicised.

The problem is the timing of the injury. I don't know how strong the science is for PRP therapy in general, and doubt there is much data applicable to an acute situation such as this in any case, but I guess with a billion dollar franchise getting their MVP back even a few days earlier in (hopefully) the middle of the play-offs is worth a punt if there is no downside.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#29 » by John Murdoch » Thu May 5, 2016 12:45 pm

Should just call it the Kobe treatment
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#30 » by Mass Rig » Thu May 5, 2016 12:52 pm

bakesale wrote:Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.


Why not?
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Post#31 » by alexb618 » Thu May 5, 2016 12:53 pm

in at least one other sport that comes to mind, this gets you a 2 year suspension
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#32 » by gothehornets » Thu May 5, 2016 1:13 pm

i still dont understand not taking supplements to help with recovery
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#33 » by Dupp » Thu May 5, 2016 1:17 pm

Mass Rig wrote:
bakesale wrote:Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.


Why not?



Yeah in almost all sports they are seen in the same light in terms of whats an illegal substance. I personally have no problem with anything thats safe that helps athletes recover faster from an injury but its taboo .
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#34 » by whatchaknow » Thu May 5, 2016 2:05 pm

As a basketball fan I hope he doesn't rush back. Worst thing he can do is put unwanted stress on another part of his body overcompensating for his current injury. So I trust him and the doctors will find the appropriate time to come back. As a blazer fan it would be fun to see how we stack up against a fully healthy gs squad but they are clearly a superior team and him being healthy for next round is much more important.

Even if somehow the Warriors lost this round it would be much less costly to them then curry suffering a devastating injury. But I trust curry will be smart with it. No reason to risk losing the most explosive offensive player in the league when your squad can clearly win without him
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#35 » by PizzaSteve » Thu May 5, 2016 2:09 pm

The difference is whether the recovery treatment has a performance enhancing side effect like improved strength, endurance, etc. That is why blood doping and steroids have been banned and things like nutrition suppliments, PRP, low voltage electric stimulation, surgery to repair, etc. Are ok. Getting back to normal faster is fine...bionic improvements are considered no bueno.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#36 » by Beffiosa » Thu May 5, 2016 2:16 pm

bakesale wrote:
D.Brasco wrote:
bakesale wrote:Helping to recover an injury is not the same as enhancing performance.


One of the main reasons athletes turn to HGH is for its recovery purposes.

But the sheer fact that HGH can enhance your performance means that it is banned. PRP is only used as a method for recovery. Do you see the difference yet?


Its not a sheer fact that HGH can enhance performance, because it does not. Not as a standalone, that is. In fact, platelet-rich plasma therapy (PRP) raises the serum levels of three ergogenic growth factors. WADA is already planning to revisit putting it on the banned list.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#37 » by Yoshun » Thu May 5, 2016 2:17 pm

Is there a possibility that it could help people recover faster in between work outs? I'm not really sure how that works. It's irrelevant here because that's not what Curry is doing, just curious.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#38 » by Beffiosa » Thu May 5, 2016 2:31 pm

Yoshun wrote:Is there a possibility that it could help people recover faster in between work outs? I'm not really sure how that works. It's irrelevant here because that's not what Curry is doing, just curious.


It works similar to blood doping or blood spinning. The major difference is that with PRP you do not inject the blood into the bloodstream like you would do blood doping; you inject into the surrounding area that is injured to speed up the healing process. Injecting it into the bloodstream would help recovery during workouts because the body is supplied with a lot of oxygenated blood.
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#39 » by SF_Warriors » Thu May 5, 2016 6:05 pm

stephanieg wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Platelets don't help you perform better, as they don't carry oxygen.


So he's wasting his money?

Anything that helps you recover faster makes you perform better than you would without it, especially if the alternative is not performing at all. If Curry comes back at 80% instead of 70% thanks to this procedure then that's performing better. If he comes back earlier than he would naturally, he's performing better.

Personally, I don't care. Shoot some HGH in there, whatever.


Ehh, basically they are putting blood into an area where there is less blood flow. Imagine a normal healing process sped up due to increased blood flow through the injured area. That is what PRP treatment is ... They arent introducing anything unnatural into his system, nor will he come back stronger or faster than he was before. But no, he is not wasting his money. his leg was introduced to some healing properties that the natural healing process may not heal fully. This treatment can potentially help prevent something like tendinitis in the future. Veyr well worth the money for a pro athlete, but the treatment is fairly new and not all insurance companies cover it which is why normal people dont usually try this treatment.


What you are essentially saying is that if a player is sick and gets a flu shot, that it is performance enhancing because he will get better sooner than without it, which is not a good argument at all. Or saying offseason surgery is performance enhancing because a player will be able to play earlier than trying to healing without it...
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Re: Curry undergoes platelet-rich plasma treatment for sprained knee 

Post#40 » by OsuCavsfan103 » Thu May 5, 2016 6:10 pm

stephanieg wrote:Cortisone shots = Perfectly acceptable.
PEDs = OMG cheater.
Blood doping = OMG cheater.
Platelet injections = Isn't science great?

People are weird.


They aren't the same thing at all....

If you actually do some research on each, you will see why people dismiss cortisone and platelet injections, but aren't ok with PEDS and Blood Doping.

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