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Who's gonna be the new Coach?

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Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#1 » by basketballwacko2 » Thu May 5, 2016 6:08 pm

Better be Mark Jackson!
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#2 » by Jake0890 » Thu May 5, 2016 6:17 pm

Nate McMillan.
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Post#3 » by Wizop » Thu May 5, 2016 6:21 pm

Bird said not Kevin McHale. I expect it will be an offensive specialist willing to keep Dan Burke in charge of the defense.
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Post#4 » by ozthegap » Thu May 5, 2016 6:36 pm

what you guys think of D'antoni. I think he would fit your team well and pg will thrive in that system.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#5 » by Revived » Thu May 5, 2016 6:43 pm

Nate McMillan.

Or yea D'Antoni if Bird really wants to play small ball that much.
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Post#6 » by Pistol King » Thu May 5, 2016 7:20 pm

Coaching talent wise, I'd target Blatt as the #1 option above all the other candidates. He have the biggest room to improve and he's the best two ways basketball minded talent on this list. But, I think after his gig in CLE he would not jump into every NBA team and would want to fit in the right organization. So both sides could win. Would it be the Knicks? would it be Huston? Kings? IND? really hard to assume at this point.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#7 » by pacers33granger » Thu May 5, 2016 7:44 pm

Wizop wrote:Bird said not Kevin McHale. I expect it will be an offensive specialist willing to keep Dan Burke in charge of the defense.


This is what I'm hoping. I pray it won't be Mcmillan. He did basically nothing for us as an assistant and was awful as a head coach.

If I had to guess I'd say Hornacek and I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#8 » by Jermainevent » Thu May 5, 2016 8:04 pm

Make a run at D'Antoni, Nash as an assistant, trade for Rubio or sign Conley, PG13 plays that Shawn Marion role, and Myles Turner, although not the athlete that Stoudemire was, can bring similar things to the floor. Grab some shooters to spread the floor.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#9 » by Pacersike » Thu May 5, 2016 8:08 pm

I like all 3 of the names who are been thrown around: Hornacek, McMillan and Shaw. :)
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Post#10 » by Wizop » Thu May 5, 2016 8:42 pm

no problem here with Shaw or Byron Scott. I don't think McMillan though as he's not a new voice so he doesn't do anything that keeping Vogel wouldn't have done.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#11 » by 8305 » Thu May 5, 2016 8:51 pm

My initial reaction was there was no one available that would be improvement but, I hadn't thought of Hornecek or Blatt. Hornacek in particular got a raw deal in Phoenix. They certainly played the style Bird is after. Hopefully Larry realizes he needs to assemble a better collection of shooters than he has now to play that way. Blatt's rep is as a development guy, right? That's also seemingly a decent fit.

D'Antoni would also be interesting option. Need to get him some shooters too. Maybe his system would make George Hill a star?

Guessing this would be too far out of the box for Bird but what about Jay Wright? Maybe the next best thing to Brad Stevens.

Jackson, Scott, McMillian or Shaw don't seem to me to be as accomplished as Vogel. If you are going to fire Vogel here's hoping Larry has done some homework and knows there is someone with some upside that he can hire. With Paul George and Myles Turner I gotta think we are a reasonably desirable destination.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#12 » by boomershadow » Thu May 5, 2016 9:17 pm

Look, if he wants to play fast and go small then get D'Antoni. That is where my mind is at the moment. Shaw and McMillan can't do that. Hornacek maybe, but MDA is the guy all these space and pace teams are modeling after. Go to the source, get thebest coach to do the thing you most wanna do.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#13 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 5, 2016 10:09 pm

Wizop wrote:no problem here with Shaw or Byron Scott. I don't think McMillan though as he's not a new voice so he doesn't do anything that keeping Vogel wouldn't have done.


I'm fine with Shaw. But definitely not on Byron Scott. That is a guy who has lost everything in coaching, and he doesn't have any idea how to get it back. He's done. His time in Cleveland was a mess, and not even due to the mis-managed organization. Byron is just frazzled, lost, and confused in his coaching game since his Nets days. Being fired 4 times has really messed him up.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#14 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 5, 2016 10:11 pm

boomershadow wrote:Look, if he wants to play fast and go small then get D'Antoni. That is where my mind is at the moment. Shaw and McMillan can't do that. Hornacek maybe, but MDA is the guy all these space and pace teams are modeling after. Go to the source, get thebest coach to do the thing you most wanna do.


Yeah. If increased offense and uptempo is really the focus, Hornacek and D'Antoni make sense. I think Hornacek really got hosed in Phoenix with a GM not knowing exactly what he wanted to do and "over-tinkering" with the roster, and thus, blowing up any chance at chemistry or trust. If Hornacek learned something out of that process, but is still the coach he was, then he'd have some serious upside. D'Antoni is what he is. I'd worry he'd be like a Jim O'Brien type hire. But, he knows offense. Obie knew, well, no one knew what Obie knew.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#15 » by Scoot McGroot » Thu May 5, 2016 10:12 pm

basketballwacko2 wrote:Better be Mark Jackson!


Again, hope not. Talk about a guy who can really ruin any chance at team chemistry. There's a reason he couldn't last with any team as a player more than a couple years. He just really grates on rosters and locker rooms, especially with his preaching.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#16 » by Jake0890 » Thu May 5, 2016 10:40 pm

Mark Jackson sucks and Byron Scott is statistically the worst coach in history, dear God. I cannot handle watching the Pacers if Scott is the coach.

I'm pretty indifferent to Vogel being fired, after blowing that lead I was ready to see him leave. He has consistently failed to coach a good bench and bench rotation and that costed him his job. He did, however know how to connect with players and make the best out of the worst by just giving them opportunities like Lance.

D'Antoni might be a good change of pace, as long as he doesn't touch defense. I like McMillan I think as he has past experience and has been with the Pacers. Shaw is too similar to Vogel I think for Bird to consider him.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#17 » by Jake0890 » Thu May 5, 2016 10:42 pm

Also think FWIW D'Antoni could make Turner into a serious monster.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#18 » by Jermainevent » Thu May 5, 2016 10:43 pm

Jermainevent wrote:Make a run at D'Antoni, Nash as an assistant, trade for Rubio or sign Conley, PG13 plays that Shawn Marion role, and Myles Turner, although not the athlete that Stoudemire was, can bring similar things to the floor. Grab some shooters to spread the floor.


I also try to acquire Kyle Anderson, really feel like he could thrive in D'Antoni offense, much like a younger Boris Diaw did. Point forward, stretch the floor, be a trailer on plays too. Target Denzel Valentine in the draft.
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#19 » by Pacersike » Thu May 5, 2016 10:46 pm

Scoot McGroot wrote:
basketballwacko2 wrote:Better be Mark Jackson!


Again, hope not. Talk about a guy who can really ruin any chance at team chemistry. There's a reason he couldn't last with any team as a player more than a couple years. He just really grates on rosters and locker rooms, especially with his preaching.


Are we talking about the same Jackson that played 5 consecutive years for the Knicks and returned many years later? Whatever chemistry he ruined in NY, they clearly have a short memory then...

The same Jackson the Pacers traded and then wanted him back and got him back to play 6 seasons for them?

I understand it's a popular thing to bash Mark Jackson, but this hate is getting way out of proportion.

He is a good coach who led the Warriors to 2 playoffs in 3 seasons and if he ruined any chemistry in Oakland, it sure doesn't take long to recover from it...
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Re: Who's gonna be the new Coach? 

Post#20 » by SmashMouthRod » Thu May 5, 2016 10:51 pm

Im disappointed. In my opinion Frank didnt deserve this. And it seems that every season for the last few Bird has made some type of blunder. Trading Granger right before the playoff run. Not paying Stephenson. Talking down Roy's value to the point that West just opted out because of anger. Signing Ellis to a long deal. Allowing Solomon Hill to become a free agent when he couldve been on a cheaper deal. And now deciding not to retain Frank. The guy who brought this franchise back to relevancy. This roster this season had its deficiencies. Im not sure any other coach couldve done much better. Especially any of the potential mentions. And after his late season performance it looks like Solomon Hill needs to be resigned.

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