All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[Clyde Frazier]

EDIT 9:50 AM eastern - since he's still on the board and no one has picked after me yet, i'm changing my pick to 92 mark price

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You're up.

[MisterHibachi]

Ha, I actually posted my initial pick, Millsap, then deleted it.

[Dr Spaceman]

Ha, I actually posted my initial pick, Millsap, then deleted it.

Just curious what made you change your mind?

[Dr Spaceman]

Can we choose players from 2016?

Edit: re-read OP in draft thread. We are allowed.

Amazing pick with Pau, he was best value available. 12.9 FGA is super low for a championship #2 option. You are really going to have to be creative to fill out that roster I think because you are pushing 70 FGA, but man that's a tough team.

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If it's any consolation the Pau/Dwight pairing didn't exactly work out in real life.

[E-Balla]

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Well your team would have won single handedly with Pau. You would have had

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Miller
Lebron/Iggy
Pau
Dwight

and just less than 60 FGA
You could have taken a HOF point and still have room for good bench guys.

Luckily for you, there are still some low FGA studs available at both positions and I think you've played the draft perfectly so far

Yeah that would be scary to think of but Dwight and Pau might not be the best combo (Dwight doesn't play friendly with other post bigs). Still I think that'd be the best big 4 (even over mine).

The way this is looking to shake out I think after the next round it'll be very clear how the teams will finish out. Personally my next 2 picks are my most important (I only have a list of 3 guys I want with those picks and if I can't get two of them I'm sure my team will have a fatal weakness) since I have like 10 guys in mind for my last 2.

[MisterHibachi]

Ha, I actually posted my initial pick, Millsap, then deleted it.

Just curious what made you change your mind?

I was aiming for him for the past 10 picks, but had last minute concerned about his size. Was gonna choose 2016 version, and we've seen him be dominated on the glass by a relatively unskilled big man in TT two years in a row now. He has range to the 3 point line and can handle a little bit, but I wasn't fully sure if that outweighed Pau's size and better defense (plus Pau isn't that bad a shooter himself). Millsap can guard some 3s though, so I had to give that up. But now I do have more positional versatility with Pau even though he can't guard 3s. Plus, and I can't pretend it didn't factor into my decision, Pau had lower FGA.

[theonlyclutch]

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Well your team would have won single handedly with Pau. You would have had

_
Miller
Lebron/Iggy
Pau
Dwight

and just less than 60 FGA
You could have taken a HOF point and still have room for good bench guys.

Luckily for you, there are still some low FGA studs available at both positions and I think you've played the draft perfectly so far

Thanks for giving him the idea, I wanted Mark Price

[Quotatious]

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Well your team would have won single handedly with Pau. You would have had

_
Miller
Lebron/Iggy
Pau
Dwight

and just less than 60 FGA
You could have taken a HOF point and still have room for good bench guys.

Luckily for you, there are still some low FGA studs available at both positions and I think you've played the draft perfectly so far

Thanks for giving him the idea, I wanted Mark Price

Me too. Price was the first guy I had in mind, now I have to find someone else...

By the way - why would you take Price if you already Billups, and need a starting SF and PF?

Anyway, Billups would be THE perfect PG for my team. I totally love the fit between him and Jordan. I have to stop dreaming, though...Billups/Manu is a GREAT backcourt, nice job there.

[Doctor MJ]

Okay, so by my count 7 hours have passed since Pau-gate. Drunk with power, Dr Spaceman awards this pick to the Long Beach Longshoreman, who select combo forward Paul Millsap.

Thanks Doc!

I've been an admirer of Paul Millsap from his rookie season. He was the rare rookie who true impact according to +/- stats, which is of course good, but not something I take too seriously by itself when the player is a role player. What we've seen since though is that Millsap continues to have impact that is more impressive than his box score seemingly no matter how his role expands, and him switching teams proved to be no impediment at all.

As a result acquiring Millsap here means that for my #5 guy I've got someone who actually has proven to be very effective in that limited role, but who it turns out has the talent to be the best player on a quality team. This is important to me because to me this is precisely the type of player who would be the #5 guy in a league of this caliber whereas your typical "good" #5 guy from the NBA honestly would never make a roster in a league of this quality.

With the acquisition of Millsap I've got 5 starters who are all great 2-way players, all have great attitudes, all have stand out intelligence, and perhaps more than anything else just have great motor. We've seen in the modern NBA you can still have a great defense with a player or two who are lacking in some of these areas due to the ability to play 5-guys-on-a-string, but with the guys truly have intelligence & motor opponents will constantly be in a situation where any hesitation in their decision making will lead to a possession with odds of success considerably lower than normal.

So yeah, I love my team. They proudly represent the LBC!

[theonlyclutch]

Well your team would have won single handedly with Pau. You would have had

_
Miller
Lebron/Iggy
Pau
Dwight

and just less than 60 FGA
You could have taken a HOF point and still have room for good bench guys.

Luckily for you, there are still some low FGA studs available at both positions and I think you've played the draft perfectly so far

Thanks for giving him the idea, I wanted Mark Price

Me too. Price was the first guy I had in mind, now I have to find someone else...

By the way - why would you take Price if you already Billups, and need a starting SF and PF?

Anyway, Billups would be THE perfect PG for my team. I totally love the fit between him and Jordan. I have to stop dreaming, though...Billups/Manu is a GREAT backcourt, nice job there.

Was hoping the guy would get overlooked and be a late pick for my team, more backcourt depth, playmaking and shooting is never a bad thing...

Millsap's a nice pick for Doc, although I suspect he's probably going to feel the FGA crunch very soon, if not already

[Texas Chuck]

Millsap's a nice pick for Doc, although I suspect he's probably going to feel the FGA crunch very soon, if not already

Pretty sure Doc's been clear he's ignoring the FGA restrictions....

[Quotatious]

1984-85 version.

I don't like the fact that he doesn't have 3-pt range, but that's pretty much the only thing I don't like about him. Other than that, he's a terrific defender, very good playmaker, very efficient scorer, averaged below 10 FGAs, he proved he could function well on stacked teams, and excel playing alongside high volume star wings, like Dr J. He's also a classy guy.

Like the '08 Celtics proved, you can be an all-time great team and win a title in today's game even if you have only two 3-pt shooters in your starting lineup, so I'm not too worried about that. I can pick 3-pt shooters as my reserves.

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You're up.

[Quotatious]

Just wanted to say that ALL of my starters were All-Defensive 1st team members (well, in the season I selected, Bowen only made the 2nd team, but obviously he went on to make several 1st teams later in his career).

My center is a 4-time DPOY, averaged 4.1 bpg in the season I selected, and my guards averaged 5.0 spg between the two of them. Think about it, guys.

[MisterHibachi]

Just wanted to say that ALL of my starters were All-Defensive 1st team members (well, in the season I selected, Bowen only made the 2nd team, but obviously he went on to make several 1st teams later in his career).

My center is a 4-time DPOY, averaged 4.3 bpg in the season I selected, and my guards averaged 5.0 spg between the two of them. Think about it, guys.

Don't forget what happened in the 01 finals

[Quotatious]

Don't forget what happened in the 01 finals

Don't forget that Mutombo won't be paired with Iverson and Tyrone Hill but with Jordan and Karl Malone.

By the way - I'm really surprised you didn't take LeBron #1 overall. Actually, to me it wasn't really a question whether you would take LeBron, but who would you surround him with.

[Dr Spaceman]

Mo Cheeks was a good pick. Really good fit guy when you have a talented roster. He was on my radar for sure.

[Narigo]

I'll go with 2012 Paul George

[E-Balla]

Mo Cheeks was a good pick. Really good fit guy when you have a talented roster. He was on my radar for sure.

I was thinking of him as my backup G but I figured he wouldn't drop far enough.

[MisterHibachi]

Don't forget what happened in the 01 finals

Don't forget that Mutombo won't be paired with Iverson and Tyrone Hill but with Jordan and Karl Malone.

By the way - I'm really surprised you didn't take LeBron #1 overall. Actually, to me it wasn't really a question whether you would take LeBron, but who would you surround him with.

Both Shaq and LeBron are GOAT peaks, imo, so it was basically a coin flip for me. I've already done some thought exercises building around LeBron so I figured I would try something new and go with Shaq. Plus the forum has a better opinion of Shaq's peak than LeBron's, so maybe that will help me in the playoffs judging

[Timmaytime]

Don't forget what happened in the 01 finals

Don't forget that Mutombo won't be paired with Iverson and Tyrone Hill but with Jordan and Karl Malone.

By the way - I'm really surprised you didn't take LeBron #1 overall. Actually, to me it wasn't really a question whether you would take LeBron, but who would you surround him with.

Both Shaq and LeBron are GOAT peaks, imo, so it was basically a coin flip for me. I've already done some thought exercises building around LeBron so I figured I would try something new and go with Shaq. Plus the forum has a better opinion of Shaq's peak than LeBron's, so maybe that will help me in the playoffs judging

I think in your position I would have picked Lebron, only because that 2.4 FGA or whatever it is can be pretty huge.

Ultimately I don't judge the Shaq pick whatsoever because 1. it is atleast in contention for GOAT peak and 2. I did the same explorative thing you did with Curry.

I think you've made an amazing team around him and i'm really upset about you stealing Posey from me lol