ImageImageImage

How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson?

Moderators: dVs33, Cowology, theBigLip, Snakebites

How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson?

1-2
14
45%
3-4
9
29%
5-7
2
6%
8-10
1
3%
11-14
2
6%
15-20
1
3%
21-30
0
No votes
Wouldn't trade him for any pick in this draft
2
6%
 
Total votes: 31

User avatar
Laimbeer
RealGM
Posts: 42,959
And1: 15,115
Joined: Aug 12, 2009
Location: Cabin Creek
     

How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#1 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 6, 2016 5:19 pm

If a team were looking to acquire him with a single pick in this draft, what's the lowest pick you'd settle for?
Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,753
And1: 22,818
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#2 » by MotownMadness » Fri May 6, 2016 5:53 pm

In this draft probably a top 3, basically the only guys I would trade him for are Ingram, Simmons, Dunn. I can't see anyone out of the top 2 that I would for sure gamble on for him.
theBigLip
Forum Mod - Pistons
Forum Mod - Pistons
Posts: 16,857
And1: 3,449
Joined: May 22, 2001
Location: Santa Cruz, CA
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#3 » by theBigLip » Fri May 6, 2016 8:19 pm

I said 3-4. We know what we are getting with RJ. Draft picks, you never know how they will transition to the NBA.
User avatar
MrBigShot
RealGM
Posts: 18,552
And1: 20,107
Joined: Dec 18, 2010
 

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#4 » by MrBigShot » Fri May 6, 2016 9:08 pm

Not really high on anybody outside of Ingram at the moment.
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
User avatar
Dirtgrain
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,785
And1: 61
Joined: Jul 08, 2007

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#5 » by Dirtgrain » Fri May 6, 2016 10:25 pm

I would prefer a point guard who consistently plays defense. I hope we draft Payton (or someone like him)--not that Payton would be a starter or an RJ replacement. I'm just sick of seeing RJ suck on defense. It's a shame. Maybe he will step up his defense as the team gets better?
"Have you ever noticed how anyone driving faster than you is an [jerk] and anyone driving slower than you is a moron?" - George Carlin
Hyperbole is not a virtue.
DBC10
General Manager
Posts: 9,963
And1: 2,829
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
 

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#6 » by DBC10 » Fri May 6, 2016 10:25 pm

1 through 6? That'd probably be my range.

RJ is good, but he's not a superstar especially with how stacked the PG position is. Some of those kids that fall around that range might have a chance with them all playing different positions.
MotownMadness
RealGM
Posts: 38,753
And1: 22,818
Joined: Oct 08, 2013
   

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#7 » by MotownMadness » Fri May 6, 2016 10:29 pm

DBC10 wrote:1 through 6? That'd probably be my range.

RJ is good, but he's not a superstar especially with how stacked the PG position is. Some of those kids that fall around that range might have a chance with them all playing different positions.

Kris Dunn is probably the 3rd best player in this draft and a lot people say his ceiling is Jackson. So in this particular draft I think it would be a waste of a gamble to trade Reggie who still just 25 and locked up for a chance on a prospect.
Todd3
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,461
And1: 2,086
Joined: Nov 05, 2010

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#8 » by Todd3 » Fri May 6, 2016 10:52 pm

None unless we're somehow getting another vet PG who is just as good too. Now isn't the time to be trading primary players for picks and starting over again. We should be trading our picks + secondary players for another primary player to go with Reggie and Drummond, if anything.
ImHeisenberg
Head Coach
Posts: 6,465
And1: 2,323
Joined: Apr 01, 2013
 

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#9 » by ImHeisenberg » Fri May 6, 2016 10:54 pm

I don't love Reggie. He's a good PG that has a metric ton of room to improve.

But, there isn't anyone in this draft I would trade him for if the objective is to improve over last season.
tmorgan
RealGM
Posts: 14,267
And1: 9,754
Joined: Feb 04, 2005
Location: San Francisco, CA
   

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#10 » by tmorgan » Fri May 6, 2016 11:30 pm

I'd definitely take a top 6 (we'd never get top 2) pick IF...

I knew we could sign a starting quality FA or get a good one (same category as Reggie) in a trade without overpaying. Jeff Teague, for example, is definitely available for the right offer.

I'm not saying Teague is better than Reggie, but he's cheaper, and his strengths might (again, *might*) be more in line with what we need. Also, the difference in salaries could land us more in FA.

Again, these aren't assurances you're going to have, so it's not a deal you can really make, but that's my scenario. I like Reggie but don't love him. His defense is a real problem. I'm still hoping some additional ball-handling to take the load off and some more time with SVG can boost his defense up to acceptable.
User avatar
Pharaoh
RealGM
Posts: 16,443
And1: 4,742
Joined: Aug 10, 2001

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#11 » by Pharaoh » Sat May 7, 2016 12:09 am

Just No!

Not trading a still improving 25 year old who is locked into a pretty reasonable contract for a CHANCE at grabbing a prospect that you hope one day becomes a still improving 25 year old who is locked into a pretty reasonable contract
DBC10
General Manager
Posts: 9,963
And1: 2,829
Joined: Jun 01, 2013
 

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#12 » by DBC10 » Sat May 7, 2016 2:21 am

tmorgan wrote:I'd definitely take a top 6 (we'd never get top 2) pick IF...

I knew we could sign a starting quality FA or get a good one (same category as Reggie) in a trade without overpaying. Jeff Teague, for example, is definitely available for the right offer.

I'm not saying Teague is better than Reggie, but he's cheaper, and his strengths might (again, *might*) be more in line with what we need. Also, the difference in salaries could land us more in FA.

Again, these aren't assurances you're going to have, so it's not a deal you can really make, but that's my scenario. I like Reggie but don't love him. His defense is a real problem. I'm still hoping some additional ball-handling to take the load off and some more time with SVG can boost his defense up to acceptable.


Teague and Conley come to mind too.

I severely doubt we get any offers for RJ (probably at a neutral value), but if it does come and we also somehow luck our way into getting a seat with Conley or Teague, I wouldn't take it away.
DET_Athletics
Pro Prospect
Posts: 984
And1: 239
Joined: Dec 17, 2014
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#13 » by DET_Athletics » Tue May 10, 2016 2:21 pm

Dirtgrain wrote:I would prefer a point guard who consistently plays defense. I hope we draft Payton (or someone like him)--not that Payton would be a starter or an RJ replacement. I'm just sick of seeing RJ suck on defense. It's a shame. Maybe he will step up his defense as the team gets better?

we would of had payton if it wasnt for Joe D.
User avatar
Manocad
RealGM
Posts: 69,969
And1: 10,562
Joined: Dec 13, 2005
Location: Middle Fingerton
Contact:
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#14 » by Manocad » Tue May 10, 2016 4:18 pm

Defense is mostly effort. Certainly there are players with higher defensive IQ than others but if the effort is 100% the defense will be serviceable. SVG just needs to crack the whip on RJ which, now that RJ has had a full season with this team to get comfortable, I expect will happen.
Image
Pugz
Rookie
Posts: 1,033
And1: 168
Joined: Jul 01, 2008
Location: Detroit
Contact:
     

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#15 » by Pugz » Tue May 10, 2016 7:09 pm

i wouldnt trade him for a pick in this draft but i said top 2
Image
flow
Lead Assistant
Posts: 4,672
And1: 2,840
Joined: Feb 18, 2016

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#16 » by flow » Tue May 10, 2016 9:03 pm

For the record, he's 26, not 25.



.
User avatar
kurtis48239
General Manager
Posts: 8,005
And1: 1,056
Joined: May 19, 2011
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#17 » by kurtis48239 » Tue May 10, 2016 9:19 pm

If we could be contenders in the Conley sweep stakes,ID consider it,thing is,Conley is about to pull the max and will be getting more than Jackson's 80 mil.

I hate to agree with mano,but he's right,Jackson has the speed and length,only thing stopping him is effort.
User avatar
DeKroit
Junior
Posts: 312
And1: 166
Joined: Nov 09, 2014
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#18 » by DeKroit » Fri May 13, 2016 7:33 pm

RJ has crazy good potential and in this draft, no one outside the top 2 is worth him imo.
mattao313
General Manager
Posts: 9,587
And1: 4,464
Joined: Aug 29, 2014
       

Re: How high of a pick would you want in this draft for Reggie Jackson? 

Post#19 » by mattao313 » Sat May 14, 2016 12:47 am

Besides the top 2 no one is a sure thing so nothing below 2.
Championships

Return to Detroit Pistons