All-Time Fantasy Draft With FGA Limit - Meta Thread

[Clyde Frazier]

Team Square takes their second Sonic in a row in Brent Barry.

Any young'ns who only saw him as a spot up guy in San Antonio missed out on an elite shooter who added great athleticism and creative playmaking.

Bones! Had my fingers crossed, but was wondering when someone was finally going to snatch him up. One of my favorite players to watch in his prime. Great versatility as a playmaker.

Yeah I really wanted him but I realized I had enough offensive GS on the team already. He's a great pick this late in the game is even say he was expected to not pass this round.

I had considered christie in the last round, too. Nice pick there.

[Square]

Team Square takes their second Sonic in a row in Brent Barry.

Any young'ns who only saw him as a spot up guy in San Antonio missed out on an elite shooter who added great athleticism and creative playmaking.

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Bones! Had my fingers crossed, but was wondering when someone was finally going to snatch him up. One of my favorite players to watch in his prime. Great versatility as a playmaker.

I loved his game and thought he was going to be a star. Obviously that didn't really pan out due to injury and circumstance, but he was a really nice player nonetheless. Great commentator too.

[eminence]

Time to complete the bigman rotation: with my 6th round pick I'm going with Big Spain

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbww8EXDBa4[/youtube]

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[MisterHibachi]

Lots of great teams so far but my favorite for now is Austin Carrs team.

Shaq-Pau-Posey-Kobe-Kidd might be the best 5 to me. Hibachi's team is the strongest right now IMO easily. I don't see his bench being too good though.

There's a few guys on radar who should be good enough to make it a decent bench - if I get them.

[Square]

Interesting that a superstar in Frazier went this late. I thought about him hard with my third pick.

Wonder if any of the GM's who (unlike me) carefully hoarded their FGA's are going to drop any more superstar bombs on us late. Plenty of all-time greats still available.

[E-Balla]

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Interesting that a superstar in Frazier went this late. I thought about him hard with my third pick.

Wonder if any of the GM's who (unlike me) carefully hoarded their FGA's are going to drop any more superstar bombs on us late. Plenty of all-time greats still available.

Oh if only you knew who I had in mind for my last pick.

I'm just going to say my offense will be unstoppable.

[wojoaderge]

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Interesting that a superstar in Frazier went this late. I thought about him hard with my third pick.

Wonder if any of the GM's who (unlike me) carefully hoarded their FGA's are going to drop any more superstar bombs on us late. Plenty of all-time greats still available.

Oh if only you knew who I had in mind for my last pick.

I'm just going to say my offense will be unstoppable.

Lol. You might. You have some very nice passers and shooters, but so far only one natural scorer. I may be thinking about that guy, you can have the other

[MisterHibachi]

There's a shooter still available that I cannot believe hasn't been picked up yet. I would've drafted him third pick if I went in a different direction from Kobe.

[E-Balla]

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Interesting that a superstar in Frazier went this late. I thought about him hard with my third pick.

Wonder if any of the GM's who (unlike me) carefully hoarded their FGA's are going to drop any more superstar bombs on us late. Plenty of all-time greats still available.

Oh if only you knew who I had in mind for my last pick.

I'm just going to say my offense will be unstoppable.

Lol. You might. You have some very nice passers and shooters, but so far only one natural scorer. I may be thinking about that guy, you can have the other

I'd say McHale and Ray are natural scorers and Nash isn't a natural but he can pack on the points. Still I don't think I can catch up defensively to the top teams so I'm going for my 125 ORTG.

[wojoaderge]

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Oh if only you knew who I had in mind for my last pick.

I'm just going to say my offense will be unstoppable.

Lol. You might. You have some very nice passers and shooters, but so far only one natural scorer. I may be thinking about that guy, you can have the other

I'd say McHale and Ray are natural scorers and Nash isn't a natural but he can pack on the points. Still I don't think I can catch up defensively to the top teams so I'm going for my 125 ORTG.

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[wojoaderge]

Lol. You might. You have some very nice passers and shooters, but so far only one natural scorer. I may be thinking about that guy, you can have the other

I'd say McHale and Ray are natural scorers and Nash isn't a natural but he can pack on the points. Still I don't think I can catch up defensively to the top teams so I'm going for my 125 ORTG.

I'd say Allen is a shooter/scorer. Not an all-star at getting his own shot

[E-Balla]

Lol. You might. You have some very nice passers and shooters, but so far only one natural scorer. I may be thinking about that guy, you can have the other

I'd say McHale and Ray are natural scorers and Nash isn't a natural but he can pack on the points. Still I don't think I can catch up defensively to the top teams so I'm going for my 125 ORTG.

I'd say Allen is a shooter/scorer. Not an all-star at getting his own shot

Ray Allen averaged 23/5/4 on 58 TS% and made 7 all star games in the 8 year span before going to Boston while definitely creating his own shots (he was only 79% ast'd on his 3s and 36% ast'd on his 2 pointers - for comparison Kobe in that same span was 68% ast'd on 3s and 36% ast'd on 2 pointers). He was better off ball but on ball Ray Allen is still one of the best on ball scoring 2 guards in league history.

[wojoaderge]

I'd say McHale and Ray are natural scorers and Nash isn't a natural but he can pack on the points. Still I don't think I can catch up defensively to the top teams so I'm going for my 125 ORTG.

I'd say Allen is a shooter/scorer. Not an all-star at getting his own shot

Ray Allen averaged 23/5/4 on 58 TS% and made 7 all star games in the 8 year span before going to Boston while definitely creating his own shots (he was only 79% ast'd on his 3s and 36% ast'd on his 2 pointers - for comparison Kobe in that same span was 68% ast'd on 3s and 36% ast'd on 2 pointers). He was better off ball but on ball Ray Allen is still one of the best on ball scoring 2 guards in league history.

OK but you chose Celtics Allen

[AustinCarr61]

Holy moly - Buse, Gasol and Gobert all gone on the turnaround?

I'm going back to doing drafts with dumb people......

[AustinCarr61]

With the 86th Pick in the All Time Fantasy Draft, the Cleveland Cavaliers select:



Jimmy Butler, 2012-2013, 6.2 FGA/G
8.6 PTS @ 57.4 TS% (38% on 1.3 3PA/G), 4.0 TRB, 1.4 AST, 1.0 STL, 0.4 BLK, 121 Ortg, 104 Drtg, 15.2 PER, .158 WS/48, +1.9 BPM
13.3 PTS @ 57.5 TS% (41% on 3.1 3PA/G), 5.2 TRB, 2.7 AST, 1.3 STL, 0.5 BLK, 117 Ortg, 111 Drtg, 23.3 PER, .105 WS/48, +2.6 BPM

Not my best draft pick (I had some targets taken and picked in a hurry) but not too dissatisfied with the fit on my roster. He shot 38% from 3 in the RS, and then picked up both his volume (to a respectable 3.1 attempts per game) and percentage (to a sterling 41%) in the PS, although the sample sizes are pretty small. He was a plus defensively by the eye test and DBPM (although PI RAPM disagrees, putting him at -0.1), but I doubt Thibs would have given him 40 minutes a night in the playoffs if he wasn't at least decent on that end and he made the All-Defensive team the following year. And unlike some other options I considered he goes to the line, pressuring the other team, and is flexible to swing between the 2 and 3 due to his size and athleticism. The 2013 version isn't the ball handler that he became later one, but he's functional in that area and his AST/TO ratio of 1.85 is respectable for a slashing wing. Let's me keep Cooper at PG full time as he can handle the backup minutes at the 2, and he can fit into small ball lineups nicely.

[Statlanta]

'90 John Salley is the 6th round draft pick for my lineup.

[E-Balla]

I'd say Allen is a shooter/scorer. Not an all-star at getting his own shot

Ray Allen averaged 23/5/4 on 58 TS% and made 7 all star games in the 8 year span before going to Boston while definitely creating his own shots (he was only 79% ast'd on his 3s and 36% ast'd on his 2 pointers - for comparison Kobe in that same span was 68% ast'd on 3s and 36% ast'd on 2 pointers). He was better off ball but on ball Ray Allen is still one of the best on ball scoring 2 guards in league history.

OK but you chose Celtics Allen

Well actually I might have enough shots to switch to 01 Ray and I'm seriously thinking about it but just because he played a different role in Boston it doesn't mean he couldn't still score. In 09 he averaged 18/5/4 per 36 on 60 TS% with Rondo off the floor while only being assisted on 37% of his 2 pointers and 88% of his threes. His last year in Seattle he averaged 23.5/4/3.5 on 56 TS% while being 31% ast'd from 2 and 81% ast'd from 3 on the 9th ranked offense. Not hard to think he could increase his volume enough to score an extra 5 points per 36 and only lose 4 TS% points. Boston Ray wasn't really worse than Seattle Ray.

[wojoaderge]

Ray Allen averaged 23/5/4 on 58 TS% and made 7 all star games in the 8 year span before going to Boston while definitely creating his own shots (he was only 79% ast'd on his 3s and 36% ast'd on his 2 pointers - for comparison Kobe in that same span was 68% ast'd on 3s and 36% ast'd on 2 pointers). He was better off ball but on ball Ray Allen is still one of the best on ball scoring 2 guards in league history.

OK but you chose Celtics Allen

Well actually I might have enough shots to switch to 01 Ray and I'm seriously thinking about it but just because he played a different role in Boston it doesn't mean he couldn't still score. In 09 he averaged 18/5/4 per 36 on 60 TS% with Rondo off the floor while only being assisted on 37% of his 2 pointers and 88% of his threes. His last year in Seattle he averaged 23.5/4/3.5 on 56 TS% while being 31% ast'd from 2 and 81% ast'd from 3 on the 9th ranked offense. Not hard to think he could increase his volume enough to score an extra 5 points per 36 and only lose 4 TS% points. Boston Ray wasn't really worse than Seattle Ray.

Yes, but the way he was set up to score was different in Boston. That's why I said shooter/scorer. Nash and Walton could score but they were better off passing as much as they were shooting. Celtics Allen was considered to better off receiving those kinds of passes. But of course you know all this

[wojoaderge]

There's a shooter still available that I cannot believe hasn't been picked up yet. I would've drafted him third pick if I went in a different direction from Kobe.

There's at least two and i'm not taking either of them

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Spaceman is already over the limit, so you're up.