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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#941 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat May 7, 2016 9:06 pm

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MotorKeepsGoing wrote:meh... I still think he has positive value but around the league I don't think there's too much interest. If we wanted to trade him, we'd be looking at an early 2nd rounder or a very late 1st.


Do you mean that we'd have to attach a late 1st or early 2nd to get someone to take him? I think he has negative value on his new contract.


not that bad... before Lamb's injury and Clifford tightened lineup for playoffs, Lamb was widely considered having a career year... the Jeremys were well considered manning a top 5 bench unit in the league... Lamb's contract is not bad at its value, it is just that you guys want cap space now to retain Lin, so it makes a little bit problematic ....
Lamb's talent alone should honor that contract, be it with Hornets or someone else...
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#942 » by Vae Victus » Sat May 7, 2016 10:15 pm

Dude, Lamb got his lunch completely stolen by a 6'3" combo guard who was only being paid a measly 2 mil. Lambs value atm is utterly in the toilet, hell Hawes has more positive value than Lamb due to 1) remaining contract size/length 2) being a big 3) showing some real value in the playoffs where he was arguably making the biggest positive impact during his floor. Lambs penchant for knuckleheadedness and lack of D are HUGE negative signs. His coach was SOOOO against using him that he pretty much never saw time in a crucial close playoff series (hell Spo put in MCROBERTS trying to mix it up).

Also why not just trade for Nick Young or Lou Williams if a team wants a microwave off the bench player. Young has 5.5 mil + 1 PO left on his deal and Lou Will has 2 years 14 mil left. Lakers are in the same boat where they too want to get rid of these defensively challenged knuckleheads, and are willing to toss in a 2nd or cash to clear em out of the team and cap.

Now of course if Cho is willing to attach a 1st to get rid of Lamb... yea Lakers cant match that. But for just a 2nd or cash as the sweetener why not go with those 2 aforementioned players instead of Lamb. Sure Lamb has potential, but its a longer deal...
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#943 » by 8miles » Sun May 8, 2016 4:05 am

If cho gives away a 1st to trade **** lamb I will lose my god damn mind. Lamb is valuable. Clifford is just stubborn as **** hell
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#944 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 8, 2016 4:13 am

We aren't giving up a pick to trade a guy we just extended, that's just silly.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#945 » by Braggins » Sun May 8, 2016 4:15 am

Why do people think players stop improving at 22? Lamb was the second most talented scorer on our team this season and hes only 23. I'm not sure why he is being written off already.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#946 » by Walt Cronkite » Sun May 8, 2016 7:17 am

I still believe in Jeremy Lamb.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#947 » by BatumtheGlue » Sun May 8, 2016 12:02 pm

Trading Lamb will makes Cho looks stupid after he gave Lamb that extension. Lamb's young and has showed some flashes to be a very good wing player. Give him another season to improve his game and trade him if he couldn't meet the expectation.
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Re: Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#948 » by yosemiteben » Sun May 8, 2016 12:15 pm

Braggins wrote:Why do people think players stop improving at 22? Lamb was the second most talented scorer on our team this season and hes only 23.

I don't disagree, but to be fair he turns 24 in like three weeks.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#949 » by BatumtheGlue » Sun May 8, 2016 12:43 pm

24 is still young enough to improve, it's not like he's already 30.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#950 » by countryboi » Sun May 8, 2016 4:26 pm

BatumtheGlue wrote:Trading Lamb will makes Cho looks stupid after he gave Lamb that extension. Lamb's young and has showed some flashes to be a very good wing player. Give him another season to improve his game and trade him if he couldn't meet the expectation.



sometimes you have to know when to cut your losses...we are paying lamb too much to be 10th man off the bench
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#951 » by JDR720 » Sun May 8, 2016 6:22 pm

we shouldn't trade a 1st to dump lamb, he still has some potential to be a good scorer off the bench and he is a very good rebounder for a guard.

would trade our 1st this year to dump hawes though, he doesn't have potential and isn't good enough to be a backup center (unless its limited minutes, not a platoon like it will be with cody)
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#952 » by fatlever » Sun May 8, 2016 6:38 pm

JDR720 wrote:we shouldn't trade a 1st to dump lamb, he still has some potential to be a good scorer off the bench and he is a very good rebounder for a guard.

would trade our 1st this year to dump hawes though, he doesn't have potential and isn't good enough to be a backup center (unless its limited minutes, not a platoon like it will be with cody)


I'd much rather have Hawes on his deal than Lamb on his.

There is always room on a roster for a 7-footer with experience, 3pt shooting and passing skills. Hawes makes a pretty good 3rd string center who can fill in as 2nd string center when needed.

Players like Lamb feel like they can be found at the end of every bench, in the D-league or the middle to late first round of any draft.

While Lamb might still be young, he's heading into his 5th season and still can't seem to find his way into consistent rotation minutes.

I won't be too bothered if he is our backup small forward next year, but I'm still going to keep my expectations in check.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#953 » by Roy Tarpley » Sun May 8, 2016 7:35 pm

The minimum team salary for 2016 will be around $82.8 million. Right now, the Sixers are at $26.8 million. Also, most people expect Dario Saric to play for the Sixers this year.

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Only Stauskas is a SG. The Sixers also have marginal team options on TJ McConnell, Kendall Marshall, and Hollis Thompson, and only Thompson is a SG.

I feel like a Lamb trade to the Sixers has potential.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#954 » by catch20two » Mon May 9, 2016 2:55 am

With consistent minutes Lamb was averaging what, 13 points on good FG% and was always a positive net with consistent minutes in the first half of the season all the while we had one of the better benches in the entire league at the time.

I don't understand the disdain for Lamb just because Clifford decided to take him completely out of the rotation for Alfense. Our bench got worse the more Lamb was taken out of the rotation and it didn't help when it came playoff time not to have a versatile wing like him to use with Batum and Marv being injured. Lamb would've been useful in the playoffs but that's where I think Clifford dropped the ball.

I don't know what happened during practices that might've put Lamb in the doghouse but the team's performance didn't and never really dwindled all season with him on the floor even when he struggled, not even defensively.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#955 » by qiantom » Mon May 9, 2016 2:59 am

Somehow I feel Lamb's contract is going to prevent the Hornets from signing either Lee or Lin.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#956 » by BatumtheGlue » Mon May 9, 2016 4:07 am

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BatumtheGlue wrote:Trading Lamb will makes Cho looks stupid after he gave Lamb that extension. Lamb's young and has showed some flashes to be a very good wing player. Give him another season to improve his game and trade him if he couldn't meet the expectation.



sometimes you have to know when to cut your losses...we are paying lamb too much to be 10th man off the bench

You are right, his contract is too much for 10th man off the bench. Only can hope Clifford will trust him more next season, he will be a very good spark off the bench like the beginning of this season as a six man. I still believe in him.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#957 » by BobsBuddy » Mon May 9, 2016 4:27 pm

:nod: This guys a pure shooter....He should be the backup to Batum at 2 and play ever night. Sign Lin and let them play together. :banghead:
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#958 » by Joest2003 » Mon May 9, 2016 4:35 pm

Lamb is a good player. Last season was his first real season getting minutes not just 3 minutes of garbage time every 10 games. I'm not surprised he hit a wall. He more than shown here has potential to be a very good scorer. He didn't play in the Miami series because it was a nightmare match up senerio. Let's be honeat lamb can nother guard playoff mode Wade. And Johnson and deng are just to big. I guarantee if we advanced he would be getting minutes against the raptors.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#959 » by fatlever » Mon May 9, 2016 5:07 pm

Joest2003 wrote:Lamb is a good player. Last season was his first real season getting minutes not just 3 minutes of garbage time every 10 games. I'm not surprised he hit a wall.


Except he played more minutes per game and total minutes in his 2nd season in the league than he did last year. Its now his fourth season. Hard to accept the excuse that he hit the wall because he wasn't used to getting minutes. He's had four years to get used to the grind of the league.
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Re: Rustler - The Jeremy Lamb Thread 

Post#960 » by spaceballer » Mon May 9, 2016 5:28 pm

fatlever wrote:
JDR720 wrote:we shouldn't trade a 1st to dump lamb, he still has some potential to be a good scorer off the bench and he is a very good rebounder for a guard.

would trade our 1st this year to dump hawes though, he doesn't have potential and isn't good enough to be a backup center (unless its limited minutes, not a platoon like it will be with cody)


I'd much rather have Hawes on his deal than Lamb on his.

There is always room on a roster for a 7-footer with experience, 3pt shooting and passing skills. Hawes makes a pretty good 3rd string center who can fill in as 2nd string center when needed.

Players like Lamb feel like they can be found at the end of every bench, in the D-league or the middle to late first round of any draft.

While Lamb might still be young, he's heading into his 5th season and still can't seem to find his way into consistent rotation minutes.

I won't be too bothered if he is our backup small forward next year, but I'm still going to keep my expectations in check.


I'm inclined to agree. For all his flaws, Hawes' passing ability and doing the occasional point-center stuff, especially if he's drawn the opposing big out to the 3pt line with his stretch big threat, is a harder to find skillset in a big (you can't teach size), compared to just getting some scoring from the backup SG spot that's more replaceable in the league.

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