The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[Bogyo]

If we're gonna make a huge mistake by giving either Horford or Barnes a max deal I'd prefer making the mistake to Barnes. He is 23 and a very underrated athlete with strength. At the combine four years ago he had a 40" vert and 7' wingspan IIRC.

I would have to agree. Watching Horford play in these playoffs I have come away underwhelmed. Not that Barnes is lighting the world on fire but he would command less money and he serves a vital role in today's NBA.

Bingo. Horford looks like the guy who can't wait till the season is over, sign another big contract and be truly medicore for the rest of his career. (I'm a guy who would have killed to get him 5 years ago... )

[Qwigglez]

Horford is a contending teams 4th best option. Maybe even 3rd best option depending on how well the 1st two options are. Would have definitely preferred LMA as I feel like he is at least a 2nd best option. Please no to Horford. Would honestly rather have Millsap as he plays aggressive and plays with heart.
Just give us the top 2 pick in this draft so we can truly rebuild, this would benefit the league as a whole since we can then trade Bledsoe / Knight to contending teams and our fanbase would enjoy the rebuilding process.

[jredsaz]

Horford is a contending teams 4th best option. Maybe even 3rd best option depending on how well the 1st two options are. Would have definitely preferred LMA as I feel like he is at least a 2nd best option. Please no to Horford. Would honestly rather have Millsap as he plays aggressive and plays with heart.
Just give us the top 2 pick in this draft so we can truly rebuild, this would benefit the league as a whole since we can then trade Bledsoe / Knight to contending teams and our fanbase would enjoy the rebuilding process.

Dear God,

Please throw us a bone on May 17. Please, please, please.

Sincerely,

Jredsaz

[letsgosuns]

Harrison Barnes regular season statistics: 12 pts, 5 rbs, 2 ast, 47% fg, 38% 3 pts, 31 mpg
Harrison Barnes postseason statistics: 9 pts, 5 rbs, 1 ast, 36% fg, 26% 3 pts, 31 mpg

Al Horford regular season statistics: 15 pts, 7 rbs, 3 ast, 51% fg, 34% 3 pts, 32 mpg
Al Horford postseason statistics: 13 pts, 7 rbs, 3 ast, 46% fg, 44% 3 pts, 32 mpg

Both of these guys will probably get max contracts due to nearly every team having 20-30+ million dollars of cap space. Would either one of them do anything for the Suns? Hardly. I would rather see what Warren is capable of than give money to Barnes. I would also rather draft a power forward instead of giving money to Horford. Barnes and Horford are both good role players. Nothing more. It would be nonsensical to go after them even with the Suns in need of more talent because neither would improve the Suns all that much.

[Mulhollanddrive]

One thing McDonough doesn't do is overpay.

Think he'll more likely take the Warrick/Childress/Turkoglu route with the 20m in cap space, than put it all on a speculative player.

[Damkac]

Well I think he overpayed Chandler. Length of the contract is more worrying than the money considering his age.

[bwgood77]

Harrison Barnes regular season statistics: 12 pts, 5 rbs, 2 ast, 47% fg, 38% 3 pts, 31 mpg
Harrison Barnes postseason statistics: 9 pts, 5 rbs, 1 ast, 36% fg, 26% 3 pts, 31 mpg

Al Horford regular season statistics: 15 pts, 7 rbs, 3 ast, 51% fg, 34% 3 pts, 32 mpg
Al Horford postseason statistics: 13 pts, 7 rbs, 3 ast, 46% fg, 44% 3 pts, 32 mpg

Both of these guys will probably get max contracts due to nearly every team having 20-30+ million dollars of cap space. Would either one of them do anything for the Suns? Hardly. I would rather see what Warren is capable of than give money to Barnes. I would also rather draft a power forward instead of giving money to Horford. Barnes and Horford are both good role players. Nothing more. It would be nonsensical to go after them even with the Suns in need of more talent because neither would improve the Suns all that much.

No reason to go after either of those guys. Horford is too old and Barnes sucks without Curry (thus the reason his postseason stats are worse). Warren has much higher upside than Barnes. If Warren was playing with Curry he'd probably be averaging more points on a higher percentage.

[Frank Lee]

That 'too old' rebuttal is a crock of poo. You really think McMully won't sign someone who is 29???

Wake up... His prize inking was old gramps chandler and he was sniffing hard on 29 yr old LMA .

[jcsunsfan]

Well I think he overpayed Chandler. Length of the contract is more worrying than the money considering his age.

I do not think Chandler is overpaid. The combination of play and leadership is well worth it.

[lilfishi22]

Barnes is a nice player but he does get quite overrated because he's on a winning team. From a skill perspective, I don't think he brings enough to the table on his own. He's not someone that can be the #2 or the #3 guy on a great team.

[jcsunsfan]

That 'too old' rebuttal is a crock of poo. You really think McMully won't sign someone who is 29???

Wake up... His prize inking was old gramps chandler and he was sniffing hard on 29 yr old LMA .

And both would have been good signings.

[NaturalBuns]

Really should dump knight. Goodwin makes him expendable at a cheaper price. Could get a 1st for knight.

I don't want to go through 82 games of knight taking shots from booker/Warren and Len and the new rookie incoming.

Goodwin is a me first guy to but I just feel better about him and what he can still do if he makes a leap

[lilfishi22]

Really should dump knight. Goodwin makes him expendable at a cheaper price. Could get a 1st for knight.

I don't want to go through 82 games of knight taking shots from booker/Warren and Len and the new rookie incoming.

Goodwin is a me first guy to but I just feel better about him and what he can still do if he makes a leap

Knight is expendable but for sure it isn't because of Goodwin. Booker is the sole reason Knight is expendable and even then, I'd be inclined to hold onto Knight unless a decent offer comes around, despite how much I want him off the team.

[thamadkant]

Well, Goodwin at 1 million dollars a year scoring 20 against players like Westbrook and others, averaging 17ppg on 25+ minutes a game, at 21 years old is a better investment than Knight.

Also, I really enjoyed the Booker and Goodwin show during the games they played 30+ minutes together.

And also, as mentioned... the money.... 1 million dollars a year is a bargain.

And having 2 6'5+ guys at the back court helps against shooters.


I'm just waiting for the Suns to get a proper defensive coach or assistant to implement that mind set.

[bwgood77]

That 'too old' rebuttal is a crock of poo. You really think McMully won't sign someone who is 29???

Wake up... His prize inking was old gramps chandler and he was sniffing hard on 29 yr old LMA .

I like Horford and wouldn't have minded signing him. I think he could probably help us be a better team next year, but I don't think he would take us further than helping us MAYBE get into the first round. And he is slightly declining. I'd rather build the team through the draft at this point. Missing out on Aldridge particularly hurt because we seemed pretty close and we could have gotten into the mix a bit, and this year with the skyrocketing cap, and our front office in lame duck status, with a coaching change and a terrible year, we will be lucky to get anyone.

Horford won't sign with us anyway. He has always lived down south and Atlanta has been good lately and can give him the most money. I would have said possibly Boston but they just knocked them out. I suppose you take him off Atlanta and add him to Boston that makes Boston the better team, but does he want to move up east or to the west for less money? Why go to one of the worst teams in the league?

[MrMiyagi]

That 'too old' rebuttal is a crock of poo. You really think McMully won't sign someone who is 29???

Wake up... His prize inking was old gramps chandler and he was sniffing hard on 29 yr old LMA .

Spoken like a fogie, Frank.

Horford is a really good player, but I think LMA is really proving why we wanted to sign him right now in the playoffs. LMA can be a the focal point team's offense, I'm not entirely sure Horford can.

[Frank Lee]

This infatuation with youth is unwarranted and likely doesn't extend into the FO.

Love will be 28 to start next season.... you mean he is too old too? Diaw is 34, and he would have been our best PF this past season. Same with Milsap at 31. I don't know who we can get, but talent is the first criteria.

Age is definitely a consideration, but it is unique to each player.


I get a sneaky that somehow Sullinger ends up here.




and stay off my lawn Miyagi

[Damkac]

This infatuation with youth is unwarranted and likely doesn't extend into the FO.

Love will be 28 to start next season.... you mean he is too old too? Diaw is 34, and he would have been our best PF this past season. Same with Milsap at 31. I don't know who we can get, but talent is the first criteria.

Age is definitely a consideration, but it is unique to each player.


I get a sneaky that somehow Sullinger ends up here.




and stay off my lawn Miyagi

Didn't know Billy King has RealGM account.

[letsgosuns]

It is incredibly difficult to win in the NBA with a team that lacks talent like the Suns, regardless of age. When you are honest with who the Suns have, the only untouchable player is Booker. And when I say untouchable, I mean he would not be included in any trade unless it is for like Lebron James or something.

Outside of Booker and maybe Warren, there is hardly anyone of significance on the team. Len is inconsistent and cannot be relied upon so far. Bledsoe and Knight? I truly do not care about them. I would happily trade them both and take my chances on a new point guard. That does not mean I would give them away but I think we all have a pretty good idea of who they are and I do not see many championship qualities in either of them.

Fortunately for the Suns, they will have a high lottery pick and might even get the number one pick, so that assures them of a major talent upgrade, at least on paper. And who knows, maybe they will be able to pull off a blockbuster trade for a star (not using Booker) and acquire a top talent, such as Jimmy Butler. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25581548/jimmy-butler-reportedly-growing-wary-of-bulls-front-office

[Qwigglez]

I better hear no crying from you Frank if the front office goes after Pau Gasol / Joakim Noah / Al Jefferson.