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Solomon Hill 

Post#1 » by LakersSquad » Tue May 10, 2016 5:39 am

I've only seen him in the playoffs never heard of or saw him before. I think he'll be a good piece for the lakers. Is his defense as good as it looked in the raptors series?
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Post#2 » by Wizop » Tue May 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Yes. He had a very good year. He started the year with a bad summer which caused us not to pick up his option which turned out to be his a-ha moment. Now we're limited in what we can pay him. It's easy to say we should have picked up the option but he probably wouldn't be the player he is today if we'd done that. A true catch-22.
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#3 » by laydo » Tue May 10, 2016 3:39 pm

Wizop wrote:Yes. He had a very good year. He started the year with a bad summer which caused us not to pick up his option which turned out to be his a-ha moment. Now we're limited in what we can pay him. It's easy to say we should have picked up the option but he probably wouldn't be the player he is today if we'd done that. A true catch-22.


We're limited to pay him? Maybe or maybe not.

Solo is now a UFA, and sure that the Pacers cannot pay him enough with bird-right, which because the Pacers didn't picked up the option.

Remember in 2002, the Lakers used the MLE to resign Devean George because they ended his 4th year rookie contract, just like us.

The Pacers, could still keep Solo with salary space. As long as the Pacers "want" him back.
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#4 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue May 10, 2016 3:40 pm

LakersSquad wrote:I've only seen him in the playoffs never heard of or saw him before. I think he'll be a good piece for the lakers. Is his defense as good as it looked in the raptors series?


His defense has always been good, so his jump to really, really good isn't too surprising, nor is it too indicative of a "contract year jump". However, his shot has never been too reliable, so that's the big surprise. More than anything, he's always been capable of being a good shooter, especially on the corner 3, but he's ALWAYS gotten inside his own head and created doubt in his shot. That's the part I would be concerned about if I were able to give him a big contract.
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Post#5 » by Wizop » Tue May 10, 2016 4:53 pm

laydo wrote:We're limited to pay him? Maybe or maybe not.


There are other threads here on this subject which you should read. The CBA limits the first year of what we can pay him to the amount of the option we didn't exercise.
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Post#6 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue May 10, 2016 5:08 pm

laydo wrote:
Wizop wrote:Yes. He had a very good year. He started the year with a bad summer which caused us not to pick up his option which turned out to be his a-ha moment. Now we're limited in what we can pay him. It's easy to say we should have picked up the option but he probably wouldn't be the player he is today if we'd done that. A true catch-22.


We're limited to pay him? Maybe or maybe not.

Solo is now a UFA, and sure that the Pacers cannot pay him enough with bird-right, which because the Pacers didn't picked up the option.

Remember in 2002, the Lakers used the MLE to resign Devean George because they ended his 4th year rookie contract, just like us.

The Pacers, could still keep Solo with salary space. As long as the Pacers "want" him back.


We're on our 2nd DIFFERENT CBA since then. That rule has long been changed.

We cannot keep him with salary space. We are legally limited to the salary we can offer him this year. It's equal to what his 4th year option would have been. Around $2.3m. The rule was changed long ago so that teams wouldn't decline player options and then offer guys a max in year 4 so that players wouldn't then universally hold out and demand that teams do it for them.
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#7 » by Indy4Life » Wed May 11, 2016 5:05 pm

CBA update will give him far better suitors elsewhere...he's gone
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Re: Solomon Hill 

Post#8 » by Pacersike » Fri May 13, 2016 8:29 am

His defense is not as good as Hibberts defense though :P

What I'm trying to say is that the potential is there, but we can't predict which Solo is going to show up at training camp next year.
The overweighted one or a motivated one.

His offense might have looked better than it really is as well, because he was playing the 4 a lot and traditional 4s like Patterson and Scola will struggle to defend him on the perimeter. Solo himself doesn't have enough length to defend players like Patterson or Mitrovic though and he is much better at defending wings or even guards.

That's where his problem lies and that's why it doesn't bother me all that much he is gone.
His lack of offense doesn't permit him to play the 2 and his lack of length doesn't permit him to play the 4.
He's a 3 and with PG starting, CJ and 3 as possible backups, there just isn't rany room for him.

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