PFs available at #11 in the draft

drsd · Post #1 » by **drsd** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:54 am

Dear Magic fans:

I have stated my clear view that starting PF is Orlando's weakest slot and that Gordon will emerge as Orlando's SF. In that, GM Hennigan could well be looking at this draft with an eye on probable PFs that could be available at #11. There are some good ones to be available in the late lottery.

Domantas Sabonis: classic "slogging" big. Has good post skills but lacks athleticism. Rebounding might not be elite in NBA.
Skal Labissière: Weak and immature, but could project as a stretch-4 in today's NBA.
Deyonta Davis: nowhere near NBA ready makes him difficult to project. Reminds me of Noah Vonleh coming out of Indiana.
Brice Johnson: Projects as a solid NBA backup. No down side, but little upside.
Henry Ellenson: Another slogging big. These sorts will struggle in today's NBA.
Marquese Chriss: Fantastic athlete still learning to play NBA. Years off being a commodity and might be a D-leaguer until then.
Stephen Zimmerman: classic combo-big. Looks to be one of those "overlooked" guys, like Jason Smith.

Looking at this list, I think Orlando would select Skal Labissière at #11. He has physical tools that can be developed. He also could easily project as BPA at this slot.

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Patrick1978 · Post #2 » by **Patrick1978** » Tue May 10, 2016 9:45 am

My favorite is davis , i think his rebounding and shotblocking will translate directly to the NBA,also has great Potential in the midrange jumper and the hookshot
Zimmermann is an interesting player, 7footer who plays the 2 spots

OrlChamps2030 · Post #3 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue May 10, 2016 2:43 pm

Petr Cornelie - More athletic Channing Frye. Like many of the other stretch bigs he is a project though

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Petr-Cornelie-61916/

the_hobo · Post #4 » by **the_hobo** » Tue May 10, 2016 3:33 pm

Rather keep Nicholson. none of these picks will help us make the playoffs next year

Nyce_1 · Post #5 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue May 10, 2016 4:39 pm

sign me up for best shot-blocker PF in the draft with high IQ.

Post #6 » by **Def Swami** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:06 pm

Chriss could probably help instantly with defense and rebounding. I'd invest time into him to develop a shot.

Catledge · Post #7 » by **Catledge** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:25 pm

#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

PennytoShaq · Post #8 » by **PennytoShaq** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:36 pm

I am pretty sure we are going for the guy with the highest ceiling.

Melvinlocker · Post #9 » by **Melvinlocker** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:55 pm

Def Swami wrote:Chriss could probably help instantly with defense and rebounding. I'd invest time into him to develop a shot.

His jumper isn't the part of his game that needs to be developed a ton. It's actually his defense and rebounding that needs work. He averaged 7.5 reb/40 adj. and 5.7 pf/40 pace adjusted. Chriss has three NBA ready skills: Finishing in transition, shooting and weak side shot blocking. Everything else needs some major work.

Skin · Post #10 » by **Skin** » Tue May 10, 2016 5:57 pm

In this poll, Chriss easily. The question is... will he be there for us to draft?

Baka_La Flame · Post #11 » by **Baka_La Flame** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:00 pm

Chriss or Davis for me.

the_hobo · Post #12 » by **the_hobo** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:01 pm

Skin wrote:In this poll, Chriss easily. The question is... will he be there for us to draft?

Ah, but then there is another question - will the magic keep their pick? Also, if we lotto into the top 3- will we trade our pick (and more) to a team like Sacramento, for a guy like boogie?

OrlChamps2030 · Post #13 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:03 pm

I've already prepared myself for Chriss not being there when we pick

tiderulz · Post #14 » by **tiderulz** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:40 pm

Catledge wrote:#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

Myles Turner, MCW, Klay Thompson, among some of the most recent #11's

Nyce_1 · Post #15 » by **Nyce_1** » Tue May 10, 2016 7:54 pm

Catledge wrote:#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

2015 - Myles Turner (#11)
2014 - Doug McDermott (#11)
2013 - CJ McCollum (#10) & Steven Adams (#12)
2012 - Andre Drummond (#9)
2011 - Klay Thompson (#11)
2010 - Gordon Hayward (#9) & Paul George (#10)

That's the last 6 years and hopefully, we add to the list where a #11-ish pick helps right away and becomes a very solid piece of the team, if not all-star.

Skin · Post #16 » by **Skin** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:03 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Catledge wrote:#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

2015 - Myles Turner (#11)
2014 - Doug McDermott (#11)
2013 - CJ McCollum (#10) & Steven Adams (#12)
2012 - Andre Drummond (#9)
2011 - Klay Thompson (#11)
2010 - Gordon Hayward (#9) & Paul George (#10)

That's the last 6 years and hopefully, we add to the list where a #11-ish pick helps right away and becomes a very solid piece of the team, if not all-star.

The guy that would be added to that list is probably Denzel Valentine. Are we smart enough to make that pick?

Patrick1978 · Post #17 » by **Patrick1978** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:13 pm

Skin wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:
Catledge wrote:#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

2015 - Myles Turner (#11)
2014 - Doug McDermott (#11)
2013 - CJ McCollum (#10) & Steven Adams (#12)
2012 - Andre Drummond (#9)
2011 - Klay Thompson (#11)
2010 - Gordon Hayward (#9) & Paul George (#10)

That's the last 6 years and hopefully, we add to the list where a #11-ish pick helps right away and becomes a very solid piece of the team, if not all-star.

The guy that would be added to that list is probably Denzel Valentine. Are we smart enough to make that pick?

It depends on what henny is looking for.
A big or a guard.
Davis or valentine.I also suppose henny has an eye on baldwin and labissiere

Catledge · Post #18 » by **Catledge** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:27 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Catledge wrote:#11 picks almost never help instantly, especially when added to a team that is already very young.

2015 - Myles Turner (#11)
2014 - Doug McDermott (#11)
2013 - CJ McCollum (#10) & Steven Adams (#12)
2012 - Andre Drummond (#9)
2011 - Klay Thompson (#11)
2010 - Gordon Hayward (#9) & Paul George (#10)

That's the last 6 years and hopefully, we add to the list where a #11-ish pick helps right away and becomes a very solid piece of the team, if not all-star.

Most of those guys -- McDermott, McCollum, Adams, George, Drummond -- had marginal impacts as rookies. That's why it's best IMO to go for BPA instead of for need: even the good players usually take years before they are useful.

Orlwillbeback · Post #19 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:40 pm

these guys are not better than Gordon.

Nemesis21 · Post #20 » by **Nemesis21** » Tue May 10, 2016 8:46 pm

Zmill wrote:Petr Cornelie - More athletic Channing Frye. Like many of the other stretch bigs he is a project though

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Petr-Cornelie-61916/

So you want to take a player who is projected to go at the end of round 1, with the 11th pick? :dontknow:

What PF would you select at #11?