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Wiz fan here. Can You share Your thoughs about Scott Brooks? What are his strong and weak sides as a coach? Can He handle guys with bad attitude like Kieff Morris? Cheers
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You'll get some wildly varying opinions about him. Personally, I'm a huge fan and think he is probably the 6th-8th best coach in the league. I don't think he's a good fit in Washington unless they're going to commit to some sort of youth movement. He's an average game coach, maybe even a little below average. He does get his player's to play hard and has a nice defensive scheme that allows for a lot of pressure and switching that will force some turnovers and transition opportunities, but his offense is very predictable and dependant on players to get their own good looks. His real strength is player development though, Jeremy Lamb is he only guy who failed to progress under his watch and he helped guide several guys from extremely raw to borderline all-stars.
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Yep, I'm dead on with spearsy. I miss him, he wasn't the best in game adjuster but you never question players' motivation under him. Expect a hard nosed defense and solid youth development, but no innovations in the offense. He had a roster of 10 day contracts competing on a regular basis to start last season. If they get a decent assistant for offense I'd be thrilled if I were a Wiz fan, but honestly even if they don't he should be an upgrade to Witt and is to me anywhere from a middle of the road to top 10ish coach.
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spearsy23 wrote:You'll get some wildly varying opinions about him. Personally, I'm a huge fan and think he is probably the 6th-8th best coach in the league. I don't think he's a good fit in Washington unless they're going to commit to some sort of youth movement. He's an average game coach, maybe even a little below average. He does get his player's to play hard and has a nice defensive scheme that allows for a lot of pressure and switching that will force some turnovers and transition opportunities, but his offense is very predictable and dependant on players to get their own good looks. His real strength is player development though, Jeremy Lamb is he only guy who failed to progress under his watch and he helped guide several guys from extremely raw to borderline all-stars.
If they're not bringing back the guys on one year contracts, then our oldest player will be Gortat at age 32.
Beal and Porter will be 23. Oubre will turn 21, Wall is 25, Morris is 26. He's got a young core there, I'm really interested to see how Oubre develops under him b/c the kid has all the makings of being a really good 3 and D player.
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Rafael122 wrote:spearsy23 wrote:You'll get some wildly varying opinions about him. Personally, I'm a huge fan and think he is probably the 6th-8th best coach in the league. I don't think he's a good fit in Washington unless they're going to commit to some sort of youth movement. He's an average game coach, maybe even a little below average. He does get his player's to play hard and has a nice defensive scheme that allows for a lot of pressure and switching that will force some turnovers and transition opportunities, but his offense is very predictable and dependant on players to get their own good looks. His real strength is player development though, Jeremy Lamb is he only guy who failed to progress under his watch and he helped guide several guys from extremely raw to borderline all-stars.
If they're not bringing back the guys on one year contracts, then our oldest player will be Gortat at age 32.
Beal and Porter will be 23. Oubre will turn 21, Wall is 25, Morris is 26. He's got a young core there, I'm really interested to see how Oubre develops under him b/c the kid has all the makings of being a really good 3 and D player.
If he's a hard worker (and from what people here said pre draft he is) I'd be surprised if he didn't develop well. The only guys who didn't under Brooks all had the common factor "low motor".
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bondom34 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:spearsy23 wrote:You'll get some wildly varying opinions about him. Personally, I'm a huge fan and think he is probably the 6th-8th best coach in the league. I don't think he's a good fit in Washington unless they're going to commit to some sort of youth movement. He's an average game coach, maybe even a little below average. He does get his player's to play hard and has a nice defensive scheme that allows for a lot of pressure and switching that will force some turnovers and transition opportunities, but his offense is very predictable and dependant on players to get their own good looks. His real strength is player development though, Jeremy Lamb is he only guy who failed to progress under his watch and he helped guide several guys from extremely raw to borderline all-stars.
If they're not bringing back the guys on one year contracts, then our oldest player will be Gortat at age 32.
Beal and Porter will be 23. Oubre will turn 21, Wall is 25, Morris is 26. He's got a young core there, I'm really interested to see how Oubre develops under him b/c the kid has all the makings of being a really good 3 and D player.
If he's a hard worker (and from what people here said pre draft he is) I'd be surprised if he didn't develop well. The only guys who didn't under Brooks all had the common factor "low motor".
What scares me most is the part when You wrote Brooks doesn`t have offensive sets and if it`s true I have deja vu with Wittless flashbacks of coaching. What interest me most is how Scotty reacts during the game. Wittman are Always literally ALWAYS few plays too late to stop opponent team run or few minutes to late to do right subs. It looked like he did sub pattern before the game and nothing what was happening during the game could change that. And some thunder`s posters pointed out that Brooks played vets over rookies way to much example Perkins. It all sounds like Wittman version lite. I hope I am wrong

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Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:Rafael122 wrote:
If they're not bringing back the guys on one year contracts, then our oldest player will be Gortat at age 32.
Beal and Porter will be 23. Oubre will turn 21, Wall is 25, Morris is 26. He's got a young core there, I'm really interested to see how Oubre develops under him b/c the kid has all the makings of being a really good 3 and D player.
If he's a hard worker (and from what people here said pre draft he is) I'd be surprised if he didn't develop well. The only guys who didn't under Brooks all had the common factor "low motor".
What scares me most is the part when You wrote Brooks doesn`t have offensive sets and if it`s true I have deja vu with Wittless flashbacks of coaching. What interest me most is how Scotty reacts during the game. Wittman are Always literally ALWAYS few plays too late to stop opponent team run or few minutes to late to do right subs. It looked like he did sub pattern before the game and nothing what was happening during the game could change that. And some thunder`s posters pointed out that Brooks played vets over rookies way to much example Perkins. It all sounds like Wittman version lite. I hope I am wrong![]()
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He really didn't play Perk over anyone, Perk was the only C on the roster (well Thabeet but really) until Adams came around. He had a few vets he liked, but every coach does.
I think what he's massively helpful for Washington is getting guys to really buy in/play hard and let younger players grow. I feel like Wall and Beal have stagnated a little, and he'd be a good coach to give them a jolt.
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bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:If he's a hard worker (and from what people here said pre draft he is) I'd be surprised if he didn't develop well. The only guys who didn't under Brooks all had the common factor "low motor".
What scares me most is the part when You wrote Brooks doesn`t have offensive sets and if it`s true I have deja vu with Wittless flashbacks of coaching. What interest me most is how Scotty reacts during the game. Wittman are Always literally ALWAYS few plays too late to stop opponent team run or few minutes to late to do right subs. It looked like he did sub pattern before the game and nothing what was happening during the game could change that. And some thunder`s posters pointed out that Brooks played vets over rookies way to much example Perkins. It all sounds like Wittman version lite. I hope I am wrong![]()
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He really didn't play Perk over anyone, Perk was the only C on the roster (well Thabeet but really) until Adams came around. He had a few vets he liked, but every coach does.
I think what he's massively helpful for Washington is getting guys to really buy in/play hard and let younger players grow. I feel like Wall and Beal have stagnated a little, and he'd be a good coach to give them a jolt.
It`s hard to develop with guy with old school offensive schemes. Long 2`s over and over and when He got force to change aka run and gun with our vets noones really bought it. Frustration from Wall and Gortat..
I won`t be hyped for winning with Brooks as a savior but at least I hope He will be upgrade over Wittless and helps in Oubre developement. This kid is hard worker is skilled and isn`t afraid attacking the basket. And he is very modest. Thx for Your view
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Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:What scares me most is the part when You wrote Brooks doesn`t have offensive sets and if it`s true I have deja vu with Wittless flashbacks of coaching. What interest me most is how Scotty reacts during the game. Wittman are Always literally ALWAYS few plays too late to stop opponent team run or few minutes to late to do right subs. It looked like he did sub pattern before the game and nothing what was happening during the game could change that. And some thunder`s posters pointed out that Brooks played vets over rookies way to much example Perkins. It all sounds like Wittman version lite. I hope I am wrong![]()
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He really didn't play Perk over anyone, Perk was the only C on the roster (well Thabeet but really) until Adams came around. He had a few vets he liked, but every coach does.
I think what he's massively helpful for Washington is getting guys to really buy in/play hard and let younger players grow. I feel like Wall and Beal have stagnated a little, and he'd be a good coach to give them a jolt.
It`s hard to develop with guy with old school offensive schemes. Long 2`s over and over and when He got force to change aka run and gun with our vets noones really bought it. Frustration from Wall and Gortat..
I won`t be hyped for winning with Brooks as a savior but at least I hope He will be upgrade over Wittless and helps in Oubre developement. This kid is hard worker is skilled and isn`t afraid attacking the basket. And he is very modest. Thx for Your view
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I'd even look at last season, OKC started with no KD, Westbrook out 16 games, and was signing D leaguers yet stayed competitive by defending well. Young guys got to show what they could do and really did develop a bit. Adams, Roberson, McGary.
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bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:He really didn't play Perk over anyone, Perk was the only C on the roster (well Thabeet but really) until Adams came around. He had a few vets he liked, but every coach does.
I think what he's massively helpful for Washington is getting guys to really buy in/play hard and let younger players grow. I feel like Wall and Beal have stagnated a little, and he'd be a good coach to give them a jolt.
It`s hard to develop with guy with old school offensive schemes. Long 2`s over and over and when He got force to change aka run and gun with our vets noones really bought it. Frustration from Wall and Gortat..
I won`t be hyped for winning with Brooks as a savior but at least I hope He will be upgrade over Wittless and helps in Oubre developement. This kid is hard worker is skilled and isn`t afraid attacking the basket. And he is very modest. Thx for Your view
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I'd even look at last season, OKC started with no KD, Westbrook out 16 games, and was signing D leaguers yet stayed competitive by defending well. Young guys got to show what they could do and really did develop a bit. Adams, Roberson, McGary.
Why they fired him afterall?
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Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:It`s hard to develop with guy with old school offensive schemes. Long 2`s over and over and when He got force to change aka run and gun with our vets noones really bought it. Frustration from Wall and Gortat..
I won`t be hyped for winning with Brooks as a savior but at least I hope He will be upgrade over Wittless and helps in Oubre developement. This kid is hard worker is skilled and isn`t afraid attacking the basket. And he is very modest. Thx for Your view
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I'd even look at last season, OKC started with no KD, Westbrook out 16 games, and was signing D leaguers yet stayed competitive by defending well. Young guys got to show what they could do and really did develop a bit. Adams, Roberson, McGary.
Why they fired him afterall?
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I think they just wanted a new voice. And Presti is friends with the new coach.
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bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:I'd even look at last season, OKC started with no KD, Westbrook out 16 games, and was signing D leaguers yet stayed competitive by defending well. Young guys got to show what they could do and really did develop a bit. Adams, Roberson, McGary.
Why they fired him afterall?
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I think they just wanted a new voice. And Presti is friends with the new coach.
Ernie Grunfail thinks hiring SB brings KD2DC what is sad. I only hope KD will sign long term contract with OKC and we finally start to build a proper team around our core. If KD decide to sign 1 year deal it means another waisted year of KD pipe dream.
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Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:Why they fired him afterall?
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I think they just wanted a new voice. And Presti is friends with the new coach.
Ernie Grunfail thinks hiring SB brings KD2DC what is sad. I only hope KD will sign long term contract with OKC and we finally start to build a proper team around our core. If KD decide to sign 1 year deal it means another waisted year of KD pipe dream.
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I think and hope KD stays in OKC, but if he left I'd hope for you guys. Your board is one of, if not my favorite board of another team here, you've got a bunch of really smart and funny posters over there and the franchise has been down. Grunfeld really needs to be fired.
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bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:I think they just wanted a new voice. And Presti is friends with the new coach.
Ernie Grunfail thinks hiring SB brings KD2DC what is sad. I only hope KD will sign long term contract with OKC and we finally start to build a proper team around our core. If KD decide to sign 1 year deal it means another waisted year of KD pipe dream.
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I think and hope KD stays in OKC, but if he left I'd hope for you guys. Your board is one of, if not my favorite board of another team here, you've got a bunch of really smart and funny posters over there and the franchise has been down. Grunfeld really needs to be fired.
Thx good luck in playoffs!!!
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Tricky_Kid wrote:bondom34 wrote:Tricky_Kid wrote:Ernie Grunfail thinks hiring SB brings KD2DC what is sad. I only hope KD will sign long term contract with OKC and we finally start to build a proper team around our core. If KD decide to sign 1 year deal it means another waisted year of KD pipe dream.
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I think and hope KD stays in OKC, but if he left I'd hope for you guys. Your board is one of, if not my favorite board of another team here, you've got a bunch of really smart and funny posters over there and the franchise has been down. Grunfeld really needs to be fired.
Thx good luck in playoffs!!!
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Hope Brooks (or whoever you get) works out well!
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Tricky_Kid wrote:Wiz fan here. Can You share Your thoughs about Scott Brooks? What are his strong and weak sides as a coach? Can He handle guys with bad attitude like Kieff Morris? Cheers
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I think he's a great coach for young players who need confidence. He'd have been great in Minnesota. I'm personally not sure about his fit with this Wizards roster. At a minimum he should be good for Beal and Wall even though those guys are pretty well established at this point.
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Yep, I think a younger team would have benefitted from his coaching more, but the Wiz could go in rebuild mode soon. I'm just happy to see him get a nice pay day, and I'll definitely be cheering for Washington now.
“If you're getting stops and you're making threes and the other team's not scoring, that's when you're going to see a huge point difference there,” coach Billy Donovan said.
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Don't worry about Brooks as an offensive coach, the Wiz don't have KD and Russ.
Brooks adapted his offense to the players he had, and when you have two players like KD and Russ, you depend upon them. Also, a lot of Brooks time with OKC, he had a very young team. It was wise to not bog them down with a lot of offense, they would not have picked it up like a vets.
Brooks will look at the talent available, and figure out what's best for that team. It won't look like the Thunder offensively , unless the Wiz sign KD this summer.
Its sort've funny, to see all the coaching critics from Brooks time, are now critical of Donovan for the same reasons. I mean really, two NBA coaches do the same thing with basically the same players ( if not same type of players ) and the critics still don't get it.
Thunder are missing Brooks big time right now, I don't think last night happens with Brooks as coach. And if it did, I would have far more confidence in Brooks to figure out adjustments, than I do Donovan. We traded an NBA veteran head coach , whose won a lot of playoff games, who has a .500 W/L record vrs Pops in playoff games, for a complete NBA rookie.
Brooks adapted his offense to the players he had, and when you have two players like KD and Russ, you depend upon them. Also, a lot of Brooks time with OKC, he had a very young team. It was wise to not bog them down with a lot of offense, they would not have picked it up like a vets.
Brooks will look at the talent available, and figure out what's best for that team. It won't look like the Thunder offensively , unless the Wiz sign KD this summer.
Its sort've funny, to see all the coaching critics from Brooks time, are now critical of Donovan for the same reasons. I mean really, two NBA coaches do the same thing with basically the same players ( if not same type of players ) and the critics still don't get it.
Thunder are missing Brooks big time right now, I don't think last night happens with Brooks as coach. And if it did, I would have far more confidence in Brooks to figure out adjustments, than I do Donovan. We traded an NBA veteran head coach , whose won a lot of playoff games, who has a .500 W/L record vrs Pops in playoff games, for a complete NBA rookie.
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I think there has been some euphemisms on the comment above.
Let's put it this way: the dude was ever present in the playoffs and had a Westbrook/Durant offense shut down multiple times. He single handedly lost the 2012 NBA Finals for being stubborn with starting line ups, after the Thunder beat a much superior team to 2012 Heat in the WCF (the Spurs, who were playing the best basketball in the league by far). His teams showed concentration issues in OKC. He allows himself to be beat and raped when sees unfavourable matchups.
This is the downside. These types of things really bummed me off watching and following OKC. So frustrating. I really think the Thunder had the best roster in the league in 2011-2013 before the Russell Westbrook injury. I hope he became a better student of the game's strategic nuances.
The upside is the fact that he's a stupidly good coach when it comes to develop players individually. I don't know what he does, if it's a motivational or just sheer skill coaching, he gets it done. He's also a players' coach, they love him and would take a bullet for him. I loved when he turned on the aggressive mode on defense and allowed his guys to be ball hawks. His were the teams I've ever seen more prepared to go full "gamble for TOs" I've ever seen.
I personally think Scott Brooks is the NBA version of a homeless man's Pete Carroll.
Let's put it this way: the dude was ever present in the playoffs and had a Westbrook/Durant offense shut down multiple times. He single handedly lost the 2012 NBA Finals for being stubborn with starting line ups, after the Thunder beat a much superior team to 2012 Heat in the WCF (the Spurs, who were playing the best basketball in the league by far). His teams showed concentration issues in OKC. He allows himself to be beat and raped when sees unfavourable matchups.
This is the downside. These types of things really bummed me off watching and following OKC. So frustrating. I really think the Thunder had the best roster in the league in 2011-2013 before the Russell Westbrook injury. I hope he became a better student of the game's strategic nuances.
The upside is the fact that he's a stupidly good coach when it comes to develop players individually. I don't know what he does, if it's a motivational or just sheer skill coaching, he gets it done. He's also a players' coach, they love him and would take a bullet for him. I loved when he turned on the aggressive mode on defense and allowed his guys to be ball hawks. His were the teams I've ever seen more prepared to go full "gamble for TOs" I've ever seen.
I personally think Scott Brooks is the NBA version of a homeless man's Pete Carroll.
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bbms wrote:I think there has been some euphemisms on the comment above.
Let's put it this way: the dude was ever present in the playoffs and had a Westbrook/Durant offense shut down multiple times. He single handedly lost the 2012 NBA Finals for being stubborn with starting line ups.
That's flat stupid. Harden disappeared in the finals and without him we didn't stand a chance no matter who started.
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