Devin Booker

Post #541 » by **ATTL** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:03 am

I think booker can be Brandon Roy part 2. Is that prime Kobe? No. Is that very good? Yes.
We'll be able to tell more about Devin's career trajectory by how he plays next year. He needs to spend sons time in the weight room.

Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

Post #542 » by **lilfishi22** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 6:38 am

Brandon Roy version 2 would be a veeeery good result. During that healthy 3 yr stretch, he was one of the top 10 players and for sure a top 3 SG in the league behind Kobe and Wade.

saintEscaton · Post #543 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 3:39 pm

I see some stylistic similarities, but Roy really gets underrated, could have become the next Penny Hardaway and was so clutch in the playoffs. Probably a borderline hall of famer if his career wasn't prematurely ended, his short lived prime was incredible and he made 2 All-NBA teams with his first 4 years in the league. He didsn't have a electric first step like Wade but he had the whole arsenal of hestiation moves. Could shift gears and change directions as a driver, and the body control to make mid air adjustments finishing in traffic, take anyone off the dribble. I think Devin could have an equally wet pull up jumper and if he can shoot 40+% from beyond the arc on a expanded clip he could approach that level .I'm still sticking with a hybrid SG version of Hayward/Rich mans' Beal as my comp for Devin

Mulhollanddrive · Post #544 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 4:28 pm

What went wrong with his 3pt shot after the All-Star break.

Post #545 » by **bwgood77** » Thu Apr 14, 2016 9:06 pm

letsgosuns wrote:Some of the writers on Sports Illustrated are insane.

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/11/nba-awards-stephen-curry-lebron-james-karl-anthony-towns

A few of them have the rookie of the year race in order of Towns, Porzingis, and Booker. But other writers have it as Towns, Porzingis, and Jokic. Are they serious. What a complete joke. Yeah I am sure that every time the Nuggets play their opponent, the first person on the opponent's scouting report is Nikola Jokic and they will double team him all game long like Booker. How are these people even writers.

Interesting write up from the Zach Lowe on the rookie of the year race...

ROOKIE OF THE YEAR

1. Karl-Anthony Towns
2. Kristaps Porzingis
3. Nikola Jokic

There isn't a case for anyone else. Jahlil Okafor missed 35 percent of the season, played some of the worst big-man defense in NBA history and exacerbated an internal crisis with embarrassing off-court behavior. He sure scored a lot, though! Devin Booker got started too late, defended air and finished with an ugly -- if understandable -- uptick in turnovers. Myles Turner is coming off the bench again.

D'Angelo Russell combined hot shooting with beyond-his-years playmaking after finally earning Byron Scott's trust, only to betray Nick Young's and deflate the Lakers' locker room.

I understand if some readers might not be able to identify Jokic if he walked by them. No one watches the Nuggets -- not even in Denver. By some measures, the dude is wrapping up one of the best all-around seasons ever for a rookie center. He hit 3s at nearly a league-average rate, led fast breaks and assisted on 18 percent of Denver's buckets while on the floor -- the fifth-best mark in history for a rookie big. He's a slick passer from the post, the elbows and in transition.

Advanced stats wonks have argued he should win the award, and he has a strong case to leapfrog Porzingis for the No. 2 slot. Jokic leads all rookies in adjusted plus-minus by a mile; he's ninth in the whole stinking league, right ahead of DeMarcus Cousins! He's an intuitive, nasty defender -- better than you'd guess, given his ho-hum athleticism.

But you can't make a case based on a single, all-in-one stat, especially one questioned by team insiders with access to the real secret sauce: analytics derived from SportVU tracking data. Towns kills by those metrics, sources tell me, and he laps the field by most other public statistical measures.

Towns should win unanimously. He has been a two-way force with the inside-outside skill set a big-man star needs in the modern NBA. He's already a bright, shining plus at everything: post scoring, jump shooting, passing, defending the rim and scampering around in space. He's like a five-tool center! If he's not a top-15 player already, he's going to be soon.

He has also played 900 more minutes than Jokic, the equivalent of 19 full games, while shouldering a much heavier load; Jokic averages a hair fewer than 10 points per game, and sometimes looks reluctant to assert himself. Jokic has more competition for minutes and touches, but it's not as if he's stuck in a loaded roster; the Nuggets are only four games ahead of Minnesota, and Jusuf Nurkic, one of Jokic's main competitors for playing time, spent half the season injured and in Mike Malone's doghouse.

Porzingis can't match Jokic's advanced numbers, and he actually shot a tick worse from downtown. But Porzingis logged nearly 400 more minutes and did heavy lifting as the No. 2 option for the Knicks. He can slide more easily between the two big-man positions, hang with guards on switches, and swat damn near everything around the basket.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15186679/nba-awards-ballot-part-1

Post #546 » by **lilfishi22** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:17 am

saintEscaton wrote:I see some stylistic similarities, but Roy really gets underrated, could have become the next Penny Hardaway and was so clutch in the playoffs. Probably a borderline hall of famer if his career wasn't prematurely ended, his short lived prime was incredible and he made 2 All-NBA teams with his first 4 years in the league. He didsn't have a electric first step like Wade but he had the whole arsenal of hestiation moves. Could shift gears and change directions as a driver, and the body control to make mid air adjustments finishing in traffic, take anyone off the dribble. I think Devin could have an equally wet pull up jumper and if he can shoot 40+% from beyond the arc on a expanded clip he could approach that level .I'm still sticking with a hybrid SG version of Hayward/Rich mans' Beal as my comp for Devin

I still watch youtube highlights of his from time to time. I just love how even though he's a very athletic guy, he relies more on skills and BBal IQ more than anything else. The way he's so controlled and how he reads defenders and plays is amazing to watch. I think Booker could have that in him.

jcsunsfan · Post #547 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:12 am

lilfishi22 wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:I see some stylistic similarities, but Roy really gets underrated, could have become the next Penny Hardaway and was so clutch in the playoffs. Probably a borderline hall of famer if his career wasn't prematurely ended, his short lived prime was incredible and he made 2 All-NBA teams with his first 4 years in the league. He didsn't have a electric first step like Wade but he had the whole arsenal of hestiation moves. Could shift gears and change directions as a driver, and the body control to make mid air adjustments finishing in traffic, take anyone off the dribble. I think Devin could have an equally wet pull up jumper and if he can shoot 40+% from beyond the arc on a expanded clip he could approach that level .I'm still sticking with a hybrid SG version of Hayward/Rich mans' Beal as my comp for Devin

I still watch youtube highlights of his from time to time. I just love how even though he's a very athletic guy, he relies more on skills and BBal IQ more than anything else. The way he's so controlled and how he reads defenders and plays is amazing to watch. I think Booker could have that in him.

I have a confession. I still watch highlights of this guy. He was just so entertaining. But its off topic so sorry.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9Hb-hpkDYc[/youtube]

Blackification · Post #548 » by **Blackification** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 9:03 am

Mulhollanddrive wrote:What went wrong with his 3pt shot after the All-Star break.

Defenders stuck to him like glue, whats awesome is that still averaged around 20 ppg shooting way below what his 3pt percentage will be.

jcsunsfan · Post #549 » by **jcsunsfan** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:53 pm

Blackification wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:What went wrong with his 3pt shot after the All-Star break.

Defenders stuck to him like glue, whats awesome is that still averaged around 20 ppg shooting way below what his 3pt percentage will be.

My optimistic thinking. When he is playing with better players, his efficiency will go up. His scoring #'s will not go down because his efficiency will go up. It looks right on paper anyway.

saintEscaton · Post #550 » by **saintEscaton** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:02 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
Blackification wrote:
Mulhollanddrive wrote:What went wrong with his 3pt shot after the All-Star break.

Defenders stuck to him like glue, whats awesome is that still averaged around 20 ppg shooting way below what his 3pt percentage will be.

My optimistic thinking. When he is playing with better players, his efficiency will go up. His scoring #'s will not go down because his efficiency will go up. It looks right on paper anyway.

With Bledsoe returning, he will go back to being spot up shooter who can still create for himself and others when needed. He's not gunna have the green light to hoist 20+ shots on a team trying to play winning ball.

Blackification · Post #551 » by **Blackification** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:26 pm

saintEscaton wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
Blackification wrote:Defenders stuck to him like glue, whats awesome is that still averaged around 20 ppg shooting way below what his 3pt percentage will be.

My optimistic thinking. When he is playing with better players, his efficiency will go up. His scoring #'s will not go down because his efficiency will go up. It looks right on paper anyway.

With Bledsoe returning, he will go back to being spot up shooter who can still create for himself and others when needed. He's not gunna have the green light to hoist 20+ shots on a team trying to play winning ball.

he is the combo guard that McD always wanted, spot up shooter but can play pg as well if need be

Post #552 » by **Qwigglez** » Fri Apr 15, 2016 11:45 pm

Is it too early to start predictions on what Booker is gonna do next season?
Here's my early prediction...
With Bledsoe and Warren coming back, the defenses can't hone in on Booker so much. I expect Booker to get roughly the same amount of volume shots in he just won't hold the ball so much. I think we should still see something around 17 shots per game, and I'd like for Booker to shoot at least 6 threes a game. It may sound like a lot but it really isn't. Mirza takes 6 threes off the bench, Klay Thompson shoots 8 threes a game, Curry shot a ridiculous 11 threes a game. The 3-ball is becoming one of the most valuable skills a player can have, and I honestly feel like Booker should be taking even more. Back on topic, I think Booker will probably get to the line a couple of times so my safe bet is saying he'll shoot 4-5 free throws a game. I'll put it on average of 4.3 per game. I expect Booker to hit his shots at a better rate because of a better supporting cast too.
So I'll predict maybe 7.9/17.5, shooting 2.3/6 3's, and 3.5/4.3 free throws. So that is about 21.6 points per game.

Am I shooting too high?

Post #553 » by **Qwigglez** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 4:14 am

So I'm not sure how many of you guys are such big fans of Booker that you look up videos of him on Youtube and check recent ones. Anyway, a fan posted a video after the Suns lost to the Kings and he was in the tunnel or whatever and when Booker walked out he shouted "Booker" trying to get his attention and Booker just kept walking with his head down. The fan was super upset because he wanted an autograph or something specifically from him and in his description was like... eff this crybaby, I waited for an hour for Booker and he doesn't even acknowledge me. I thought it was funny, but also thought Booker really cares about winning. The video is gone or at least I can't find it.

Post #554 » by **ATTL** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:43 pm

So devin was compared to mcw in the general board rookie thread.
Thank you Gaspar for your response.

Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk

jcsunsfan · Post #555 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Apr 16, 2016 5:46 pm

Blackification wrote:
saintEscaton wrote:
jcsunsfan wrote:
My optimistic thinking. When he is playing with better players, his efficiency will go up. His scoring #'s will not go down because his efficiency will go up. It looks right on paper anyway.

With Bledsoe returning, he will go back to being spot up shooter who can still create for himself and others when needed. He's not gunna have the green light to hoist 20+ shots on a team trying to play winning ball.

he is the combo guard that McD always wanted, spot up shooter but can play pg as well if need be

I don't disagree with the concept of two combo guards. My problems was with two SHORT combo guards (6-0 and 6-3). Its too much of a defensive liability. The problem also is with a 6-3 combo guard that isn't really a combo guard. He can't play the point.

gaspar · Post #556 » by **gaspar** » Wed May 11, 2016 5:13 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/PaolaBoivin/status/730444330607878144[/tweet]

aIvin adams · Post #557 » by **aIvin adams** » Wed May 11, 2016 5:29 pm

i'm glad that there are no minus-1's on realgm bc if there were this post would collect a lot of 'em. that said...

i don't think Booker should be starting over Knight next year. he's simply not better than Knight right now. he can't play defense without fouling and, unlike Ronnie Price (for example), his fouls are almost never on purpose. almost never good fouls. I'm not knocking him.. he's a teenager. it is what it is.

and on offense he's probably going to be less efficient htan Knight next season, too. he actually shot a worse % from three than d'angelo russell and on fewer attempts (granted, a lot of those came in the last htird of the season when he was our main shot creator so it's not a fair comparison).

Booker is already better at getting to the FT line, he already takes better shots, and he's already a better passer (altho I'd guess he got more TOs last yr than Knight, I wouldn't be surprised if he was as good as Knight at that by next year). but overall, Knight is just better still.

and i think you gotta play to win coming out of the gates. so i hope Booker comes off the bench and gets plenty of time (~30 mpg) ont he floor and plenty of time playing with Bledsoe. and if he earns the starting spot before All-Star break, then great!! but if not, that's OK too. he is young

Mjee · Post #558 » by **Mjee** » Wed May 11, 2016 7:40 pm

Devin Booker is starting next season ! He is hands down our best player and will only continue to improve over the summer. At only 19 years old he will get stronger, faster, and more agile. We have to set a precedence with the team for years to come, and using "our best player" (Devin Booker) as a six man is unacceptable. What was the stat again ??? Booker was the only teenager to have the most 30 point games in a season besides LBJ and Durant?? That is elite company and you treat the elite by making them the face of your franchise! Not a sixth man. Bledsoe cant stay healthy and neither can Knight. Booker is the face of the suns, period.

Post #559 » by **Qwigglez** » Wed May 11, 2016 9:46 pm

aIvin adams wrote:i'm glad that there are no minus-1's on realgm bc if there were this post would collect a lot of 'em. that said...

i don't think Booker should be starting over Knight next year. he's simply not better than Knight right now. he can't play defense without fouling and, unlike Ronnie Price (for example), his fouls are almost never on purpose. almost never good fouls. I'm not knocking him.. he's a teenager. it is what it is.

and on offense he's probably going to be less efficient htan Knight next season, too. he actually shot a worse % from three than d'angelo russell and on fewer attempts (granted, a lot of those came in the last htird of the season when he was our main shot creator so it's not a fair comparison).

Booker is already better at getting to the FT line, he already takes better shots, and he's already a better passer (altho I'd guess he got more TOs last yr than Knight, I wouldn't be surprised if he was as good as Knight at that by next year). but overall, Knight is just better still.

and i think you gotta play to win coming out of the gates. so i hope Booker comes off the bench and gets plenty of time (~30 mpg) ont he floor and plenty of time playing with Bledsoe. and if he earns the starting spot before All-Star break, then great!! but if not, that's OK too. he is young

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bobp5OHVsWY[/youtube]

GMATCallahan · Post #560 » by **GMATCallahan** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:30 am

saintEscaton wrote:I see some stylistic similarities, but Roy really gets underrated, could have become the next Penny Hardaway and was so clutch in the playoffs. Probably a borderline hall of famer if his career wasn't prematurely ended, his short lived prime was incredible and he made 2 All-NBA teams with his first 4 years in the league. He didsn't have a electric first step like Wade but he had the whole arsenal of hestiation moves. Could shift gears and change directions as a driver, and the body control to make mid air adjustments finishing in traffic, take anyone off the dribble. I think Devin could have an equally wet pull up jumper and if he can shoot 40+% from beyond the arc on a expanded clip he could approach that level .I'm still sticking with a hybrid SG version of Hayward/Rich mans' Beal as my comp for Devin

Yeah, I do not quite see Booker as matching Roy's off-the-dribble game. Stylistically, Booker might be more similar to Mitch Richmond (without the physicality) in terms of a guy who sometimes plays with the ball, sometimes runs off down-screens, and can score from all over the floor.

Of course, Richmond was a very physical player and a very gritty defender, too. Booker is probably more athletic, although not an exceptionally explosive athlete.

When will Booker hit 8,000 career points?