This thread is a Safe space to hate the Warriors

Mr Funk · Post #41 » by **Mr Funk** » Thu May 12, 2016 4:41 pm

Like others have previously stated, I don't really hate on Golden State. It's much more preferable to have Curry winning the MVP and that stacked team dominating, as opposed to LeBron and his ego-induced clown show. Curry seems like a good dude and that FO has done a phenomenal job.

However, it's just the little things that tend to get on your nerves: Draymond Green's on court persona, Curry's mouthpiece, the overrating of Kerr and Walton (sorry, but the team is utterly stacked), the extreme luck and no adversity or grueling playoff series thus far. They're always having a good time, laughing, smiling etc.

But then there was this: one of the greatest moments in Bulls' history, something I'll never forget and confirmation that if we had a complete bench/roster, we could hang with them in a potential Finals match-up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpLKdTPXdE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Mr. Tibbs · Post #42 » by **Mr. Tibbs** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:12 pm

It would be easier to hate the Warriors without former players idiotically trying to discount their greatness. That being said we should still sign T-Mac.

Mr. Tibbs · Post #43 » by **Mr. Tibbs** » Thu May 12, 2016 5:18 pm

Mr Funk wrote:Like others have previously stated, I don't really hate on Golden State. It's much more preferable to have Curry winning the MVP and that stacked team dominating, as opposed to LeBron and his ego-induced clown show. Curry seems like a good dude and that FO has done a phenomenal job.

However, it's just the little things that tend to get on your nerves: Draymond Green's on court persona, Curry's mouthpiece, the overrating of Kerr and Walton (sorry, but the team is utterly stacked), the extreme luck and no adversity or grueling playoff series thus far. They're always having a good time, laughing, smiling etc.

But then there was this: one of the greatest moments in Bulls' history, something I'll never forget and confirmation that if we had a complete bench/roster, we could hang with them in a potential Finals match-up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpLKdTPXdE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

I think we would have gotten curbstombed in a finals matchup (although I guess its impossible to argue not knowing the hypothetical upgraded bench), but I had to +1 this because man that was a fun game.

DarthDiggler69 · Post #44 » by **DarthDiggler69** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:27 pm

Wierd, I dont hate the Warriors, I respect them because they play really hard every game and were a team built the right way. I know some people dont like their three-happy game but they play the ball-movement game the right way and win on defense. Really tough to play uptempo and have great defense for 82 games.

Curry winning unanimous MVP means nothing, MVP seemed to be judged differently every decade, the meaning of MVP in the 90's just doesnt seem the same as it is now. Lebron was right there needs to be a difference between best player and most valuable player because they are not the same

snowyseven · Post #45 » by **snowyseven** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:47 pm

yeah moved them to my favorite team this year, so can't hate on them

otwok · Post #46 » by **otwok** » Thu May 12, 2016 6:49 pm

So I don't like Draymond Green. He talks a lot, and he's kind of annoying. The Warriors are man too good. I would like them if it wasn't for Draymond Green. I would prefer teams not copy the GSW model because in reality it is not a model anyone can copy. It does annoy me when teams say "we are trying to be more like GSW" but you need the right personnel for that.

Trm3 · Post #47 » by **Trm3** » Thu May 12, 2016 7:06 pm

Mr Funk wrote:Like others have previously stated, I don't really hate on Golden State. It's much more preferable to have Curry winning the MVP and that stacked team dominating, as opposed to LeBron and his ego-induced clown show. Curry seems like a good dude and that FO has done a phenomenal job.

However, it's just the little things that tend to get on your nerves: Draymond Green's on court persona, Curry's mouthpiece, the overrating of Kerr and Walton (sorry, but the team is utterly stacked), the extreme luck and no adversity or grueling playoff series thus far. They're always having a good time, laughing, smiling etc.

But then there was this: one of the greatest moments in Bulls' history, something I'll never forget and confirmation that if we had a complete bench/roster, we could hang with them in a potential Finals match-up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpLKdTPXdE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

I have this game on my DVR still. No Butler or Gibson? (I think)

The Evidence · Post #48 » by **The Evidence** » Thu May 12, 2016 7:11 pm

the next rule change might need to be an extra official added to check for moving screens.

thats the real rule exploitation the warriors are taking advantage of.

Am2626 · Post #49 » by **Am2626** » Thu May 12, 2016 11:31 pm

HINrichPolice wrote:I'll bite.

Part of the appeal of Stephen Curry is that he's doing incredible, unbelievable things on the court, and yet, he's not one of these freakish athletes or giants that we're used to seeing. He "looks" like the average sized person that you could find at your local gym - obviously someone that works out, but not someone that's a genetic freak like LeBron or Shaq.

However, viewing Stephen Curry as someone who is "one of us" average citizens is simply not true.

He's influencing a generation of kids to believe that one day, they can be Stephen Curry. The students that I work everyday to believe that they are smart enough and can work hard enough to go to college and get a degree see Stephen Curry on TV and have these grand fantasies that they too can make the NBA.

But my students don't have the incredible advantages growing up that Curry had - growing up in NBA locker rooms, having a plethora of NBA players mentoring him, a supportive dad that happens to be one of the best shooters in the game's history, access to quality basketballs and basketball courts wherever he went as a kid, feeling safe whenever he wanted to practice his jumpshot no matter what time of day. These are incredible advantages, and Stephen Curry had them from the get go.

So no, Stephen Curry is not "one of us". No, my students should not look at him and say "why not me?" as they put aside their school related goals and jack up 3's, fantasizing that one day they too can be Stephen Curry.

They can't. And they shouldn't.

I don't know how Stephen Curry's influence on kids is any different than Jordan's was in the 90's. He even used it to market himself with Gatorade Commercials "Be like Mike". Kids will always look up to the best NBA players and want to hope that they will one day be like them. This is never going to change.

da pmp · Post #50 » by **da pmp** » Thu May 12, 2016 11:33 pm

Uhh hate the team that will make Lebron 2-5 in the finals? NO

Post #51 » by **Payt10** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:09 am

I respect GS... but they can all burn in hell.

ThreeMileAllan · Post #52 » by **ThreeMileAllan** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:31 am

I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

Post #53 » by **RedBulls23** » Fri May 13, 2016 1:44 am

alucryts wrote:I more meant even a solo home run counted for 4 runs; in other words its so valuable that you start ignoring other parts of the game to go for it.

And my comment was more aimed at the idea that EVERYONE shoots more threes. I feel like the aesthetic of 2 point shots is just much more pleasing personally. I remember the acrobatic layups, or the contested fadeaway, or the nice post moves before I remember even the best threes. Defending a three is pretty much out of your hands; it's too hard to cover that much ground...even a single screen allows enough air room for three point shots. I don't like how defense is basically useless against a three...there seems to be such a low skill floor needed to get open for a three point shot. It's like playing 1v1 at the park against someone who SPRINTS to the rebound, then SPRINTS to the three point line and shoots a 3 every time. Where is the fun in watching that? My defense is limited to being a spectator of rushed shots.

Steph and the warriors just happen to be the best at using this 3 point nirvana to their advantage; no knock on them.

But still, that would be damn impressive if a team had players that could willfully just hit home runs like that.

Also, you still see the acrobatic layups and stuff like that. Heck, Steph does a great job of finishing at the basket and has had some beautiful layups with great English off the glass.

Am2626 · Post #54 » by **Am2626** » Fri May 13, 2016 3:39 am

I think the hate for the Warriors has more to do with them breaking the Bulls record that it has to do with hating the team in general. For me, the team that I really hate is the Cavs.

dice · Post #55 » by **dice** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:20 am

Mr Funk wrote:But then there was this: one of the greatest moments in Bulls' history, something I'll never forget and confirmation that if we had a complete bench/roster, we could hang with them in a potential Finals match-up.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IpLKdTPXdE&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

that shot is confirmation of nothing. and it is not on the radar of greatest moments in bulls history

Post #56 » by **kingkirk** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:37 am

Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

I guarantee you a large segment of Bulls fans, most notably international fans, jumped on the Bulls bandwagon as well. The Bulls weren't immune to that.

I'm a bandwagoner.

It's a fun thing to poke fun at, but to be mad at people for jumping on a bandwagon sounds like frustrations would be better off placed elsewhere.

ThreeMileAllan · Post #57 » by **ThreeMileAllan** » Fri May 13, 2016 4:58 am

Mark K wrote:
Funkman7 wrote:I also forgot to mention the bandwagon angle. Not sure how many of you live in California, but three years ago Warriors fans were few and far between. And even then, they werent really super knowledgable fans. They were surprisingly meatheadish. Outside of Curry, Monta, and Klay the Warriors fans I met at the bars could barely name any relevant players past or present despite wearing "hardcore Warriors" gear. (The Bay Area has good sports fans, but they are more into football and baseball than basketball.).

Ugh and now you see the inordinate amount of new Warriors gear just makes me sick. I just HATE WHEN FANS JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON and DONT suffer as fans before winning a chip!

I HATE THAT. Its like a coworker not being there there the whole project and coming in the day before its due and claiming an equal share of the work put in. Sorry m,effer! You didnt put in the work, you didnt shed tears, you didnt bleed blood, you dont understand what its like to put the work in and get the reward! The work is SUFFERING!! ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE EASY.

For Heat fans, for Warriors fans, for Blackhawk fans, it was way too easy. I will never respect those fanbases.

evvvvveeeryone!

I guarantee you a large segment of Bulls fans, most notably international fans, jumped on the Bulls bandwagon as well. The Bulls weren't immune to that.

I'm a bandwagoner.

It's a fun thing to poke fun at, but to be mad at people for jumping on a bandwagon sounds like frustrations would be better off placed elsewhere.

If you suffer through a few heartbreaking years where you follow the team closely, then the bandwagoner status falls away, Mark, I am pretty sure your bandwagoner title fell away. Your "interim" tag was rightfully dropped years ago.

In any other thread I would have an existential discussion about whether being a fair weather fan or a bandwagoner is a better way to go about life and debate the merits of being a die hard vs fair weather.

BUT, since this is a safe haven thread for letting my irrational sports hatred fly (btw, its sports, its ultimately irrational to cheer for laundry), I did not hold back or pull any punches when it comes to disliking the bandwagon fan. Hell, I have bandwagoned many a team in my day. But I proudly declared my bandwagon status when I hopped on board. I have met many. Blackhawk fan with their freshly tagged jersey circa 2010, recoil at the thought of being a bandwagon fan. To them I say, your victories feel hollow compared to mine.

Yes, I am not the one dunking that ball. I am not the one drawing up plays. Nor am I even fetching the towels. But I am a fan. And I might not know the nuances of a pinch post offense as the offensive options closed oit and the shot clock ticks down, but I know what goes into being a fan! I know how much time I spend on these forums, how much time watching youtube videos, how many hours perusing ebay for merch. And that is where I proudly judge my less-than fanatical peers. Because I leave it all out on the couch! I pour my soul onto my personal seat license! I dont just PRACTICE being a fan, I eat-sleep-breathe being a fan! So until those rookie bandwagoners prove their mettle, you best believe that I am going to thumb my nose at their crisp, cliche, Stephen Curry Under Armour gear, while I slip into my Sam Vincent cursive Bulls away-jersey lathered in an authentic, cocaine-like, baby powder and DREAM of the out-of-body scientology experience I have waited so long to feel from the blood-tipped horns on my head down to my authentically replicated Derrick Rose turf toe.

#holdat

evvvvveeeryone!
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Gandalf · Post #58 » by **Gandalf** » Fri May 13, 2016 8:27 am

Finally a thread that feels like home.

DRoseCantStop · Post #59 » by **DRoseCantStop** » Fri May 13, 2016 9:18 am

Golden State has been my favorite western conference team since the 2012 season. They have come a long way since then and deserve everything good that has happened to them. What's to hate about them? They're not a superteam like Miami's big 3. Their front office has done a fantastic job constructing the roster, hiring the ideal coach in Kerr, and developing players. I remember watching Klay play four years ago with his one dimensional self, seeing the progress he has made over the years is crazy. No one would've predicted Steph's MVP campaign back then either. The development staff actually maximizes the talent of their players. I look back and it's just awesome to see the front office's vision with that team come to reality.

I envy them, I really do. I wish our organization was like theirs.

tpickles · Post #60 » by **tpickles** » Fri May 13, 2016 9:21 am

Didn't have all the time to read every thing here but I do despise them - the way they get away with tackles, especially Draymond Green. I mean, I don't watch every game they had, but the way he tackled that Celtic player while calling for a timeout when the ref didn't even grant it, and the way they were favored for some reason grates on my nerves... It's all right not to like what other people like I guess, just that he knows he's on a great team so that must give him the fuel to do what he likes even just a little bit, self- entitlement I suppose.