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Post#122 » by HornetJail » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:26 am

Honest question: Has Ewing really done anything to warrant being a head coach during his time here? He isn't well-spoken... at all... but he does have a good reputation in terms of coaching up big men- which would help DeMarcus Cousins a ton- but is he any good at drawing up plays? Does he have a game plan?
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#123 » by SWedd523 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:28 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honest question: Has Ewing really done anything to warrant being a head coach during his time here? He isn't well-spoken... at all... but he does have a good reputation in terms of coaching up big men- which would help DeMarcus Cousins a ton- but is he any good at drawing up plays? Does he have a game plan?

he has his name and successful career
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#124 » by yosemiteben » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:27 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honest question: Has Ewing really done anything to warrant being a head coach during his time here? He isn't well-spoken... at all... but he does have a good reputation in terms of coaching up big men- which would help DeMarcus Cousins a ton- but is he any good at drawing up plays? Does he have a game plan?

There is no way we can really answer that, it's practically impossible to judge an assistant coach's performance from the outside.
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#125 » by fatlever » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:10 pm

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MotorKeepsGoing wrote:Honest question: Has Ewing really done anything to warrant being a head coach during his time here? He isn't well-spoken... at all... but he does have a good reputation in terms of coaching up big men- which would help DeMarcus Cousins a ton- but is he any good at drawing up plays? Does he have a game plan?

There is no way we can really answer that, it's practically impossible to judge an assistant coach's performance from the outside.


True, but I can judge his ability to communicate, which is an important aspect of being a head coach, imo. We've been listening to Ewing give interviews pre-game and mid-game for 3 years. Not once have I ever thought to myself, man, Ewing sounds like he really knows what he is talking about, I can see why people think he should be a head coach.

That may be harsh of me, since I only see that one small aspect of him, but the part we are allowed to see, is not impressive.
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

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Post#127 » by rallydurham » Sun May 1, 2016 5:24 am

I'm skeptical of Ewings value as a coach. The eras are so different that Id be afraid he still stuck in philosophies that are invalid now. Like a Byron Scott or phil jackson. Also, he's had trouble getting any serious consideration as a head coach which shouldn't be the case by now if he was really considered a top candidate. Some of that is that guards always do seem to get more benefit of the doubt than big men.



The kings have made nothing but personnel and coaching mistakes so the fact they are looking at him doesn't enhance my opinion. Mike Malone was a keeper and George Karl was a terrible hire. Then you look at the free agent and draft moves over the last several years and they have an abysmal track record.

I mean their owner thinks they should play 4 on 5 on defense and have a guy stand under their basket full time. That should tell you all you need to know about the kings
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Post#128 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun May 1, 2016 9:16 am

Ewing coaching Cousins, that'd be interesting
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#129 » by Benjamin Linus » Sun May 1, 2016 11:29 am

Ewing seems like a nice guy, but he wouldn't last half a season as a head coach, especially with that mess in Sacramento.
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Post#130 » by 13th Man » Mon May 2, 2016 2:10 pm

I'd like to see Ewing go to an environment with a lot less turmoil that's for sure.
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#131 » by fatlever » Wed May 4, 2016 4:36 pm

http://www.businessinsider.com/espn-brian-windhorst-suggests-patrick-ewing-may-never-be-head-coach-2016-5

But according to Brian Windhorst of ESPN, Ewing may not have a chance at securing a job. Windhorst revealed some vague but eye-opening comments about Ewing's reputation around the NBA on ESPN Radio's "Mike and Mike."


Windhorst paused and hesitated on the show when asked about Ewing's candidacy, seemingly looking for a way to not be too harsh, before awkwardly saying, "The people I've talked to aren't sure that he completely is the head coaching material that people are looking for."

He continued: "Other people who've worked with Patrick say he should've been a head coach years ago. But there's a stigma out there that he is not quite the greatest fit for a head coaching job. I'm trying to say that diplomatically, from what people have told me. He has gotten some interest before, but I don't think he's even in the top five for the Sacramento job."
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#132 » by fatlever » Wed May 4, 2016 4:38 pm

Seems like Windhorst is trying to find a nice way about what many of us has said about Ewing since he has been here. He's just not a good enough communicator to be a head coach.

... Unless that's only part of the story and there is even more reasons out there why teams are passing on Ewing.
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Post#133 » by SWedd523 » Wed May 4, 2016 5:08 pm

fatlever wrote:Seems like Windhorst is trying to find a nice way about what many of us has said about Ewing since he has been here. He's just not a good enough communicator to be a head coach.

... Unless that's only part of the story and there is even more reasons out there why teams are passing on Ewing.

Obviously none of us can see what he does behind closed doors with the players and management, but from what we've been able to see in interviews and such, there really isn't anything about him that makes me have confidence in his ability to be an NBA head coach for 82+ games other than his name power. He might be better suited as a specialized coach, but I won't fault him at all for trying to get a job if he can grab one. Would prefer him to get a better gig than Sacramento though
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#134 » by phillycheese » Mon May 9, 2016 2:39 am

For a guy with his playing resume, toiling away for 13 years to be a head coach, I would give up. Ewing is like Kareem but less prickly. Kareem has a lot of knowledge but his delivery is crap and he has pissed off too many people with his personality. I think centres and PF can make good coaches - Phil Jackson, Rudy T, Bird, McHale (to a lesser extent) - but not many of them try (Olajuwan is a specialist coach only, Kareem never got a chance). More guards tend to get into coaching and I guess laws of probability means more of them are successful - Kerr, Kidd, Doc Rivers, Jerry West, Riley, Jerry Sloan - but also some flameouts as well - Fisher, Del Negro, Avery Johnson, Ainge, Mark Jackson.
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#135 » by fatlever » Mon May 9, 2016 3:44 pm

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241838/Grizzlies-Have-Vogel-Hornacek-Messina-Ewing-Tibbets-Fizdale-On-Coaching-List


The Memphis Grizzlies have begun reaching out to head coaching candidates following their dismissal of Dave Joerger.

Frank Vogel is part of the Grizzlies' preliminary list of candidates. Vogel and the Indiana Pacers parted ways last week.

The Grizzlies' working list of candidates includes Jeff Hornacek, Ettore Messina, Patrick Ewing, Nate Tibbets and David Fizdale.

Memphis wants to transform its player-development program and find a coach who’ll be a partner in rebuilding the roster and culture around Marc Gasol and free agent Mike Conley.
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#136 » by tonman » Mon May 9, 2016 6:57 pm

fatlever wrote:http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241838/Grizzlies-Have-Vogel-Hornacek-Messina-Ewing-Tibbets-Fizdale-On-Coaching-List


The Memphis Grizzlies have begun reaching out to head coaching candidates following their dismissal of Dave Joerger.

Frank Vogel is part of the Grizzlies' preliminary list of candidates. Vogel and the Indiana Pacers parted ways last week.

The Grizzlies' working list of candidates includes Jeff Hornacek, Ettore Messina, Patrick Ewing, Nate Tibbets and David Fizdale.

Memphis wants to transform its player-development program and find a coach who’ll be a partner in rebuilding the roster and culture around Marc Gasol and free agent Mike Conley.


yes heard this on NBA radio this morning also. Grizzlies would do good to get Vogel but aside from Hornacek, everyone else are assistants?
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#137 » by JDR720 » Thu May 12, 2016 8:10 pm

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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#138 » by SWedd523 » Thu May 12, 2016 9:05 pm

The Magic make the most sense to me as a landing spot for Ewing, if any. Spent like 5-6 years there as a player and coach
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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

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Re: Patrick Ewing Associate Head Coach Of The Hornets 

Post#140 » by fatlever » Fri May 13, 2016 6:45 pm

5 years from now Ewing will have interviewed for all 30 teams... and still be an assistant.

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