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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#361 » by skywalker33 » Wed May 11, 2016 3:38 am

doordoor123 wrote:Jaron Blossomgame needs a lot of help. I watched Malachai Richardson's workout and then his and Richardson looked like a legit player compared to Blossomgame. I just think Blossomgame will need a lot of D-league time and I could see him not even making the league.


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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#362 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 11, 2016 4:59 am

Bensational wrote:Apologies if it's been brought up already, but this guy looks like he could surprise from the 2nd round (or even undrafted).

Chris Boucher


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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#363 » by Bensational » Wed May 11, 2016 5:28 am

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Bensational wrote:Apologies if it's been brought up already, but this guy looks like he could surprise from the 2nd round (or even undrafted).

Chris Boucher


He stayed in school


Really?! I thought he was a Senior already. How's that possible? I'm not too clear on how the NCAA works in that regard. Is it because he was at a Junior College first? Or is he ineligible to play anymore?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#364 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 11, 2016 5:46 am

I think he played 2 years of Junior college and 1 at Oregon so the NCAA decided he was still eligible next year
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#365 » by doordoor123 » Thu May 12, 2016 4:06 pm

Elgin Cook is a legitimate sleeper. What scouts like about him is his 6'10 wingspan, but more impressive is his 8'9 standing reach. I think a lot of scouts compare him to Draymond. He's average, but has tools and he is an improving 3 point shooter (he has improved every year and scouts like that) and even though it has dropped year to year he has a good two point percentage. I wasn't particularly watching him when I watched Oregon games and only have little footage on him so I went by stats (sorry). What do you guys think of him?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#366 » by rsavaj » Thu May 12, 2016 8:17 pm

doordoor123 wrote:Jaron Blossomgame needs a lot of help. I watched Malachai Richardson's workout and then his and Richardson looked like a legit player compared to Blossomgame. I just think Blossomgame will need a lot of D-league time and I could see him not even making the league.


Could it be said that his game....needs to blossom?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#367 » by UTJazzFan_Echo1 » Thu May 12, 2016 10:47 pm

Some local media guys are saying the Jazz love Chriss but they don't believe he'll be there at 12.

I haven't heard much buzz around him which seems odd considering his combination of size, athletic ability and skill.

Does he stay on the board until the 12th pick?

Seems like a major sleeper if he gets to 12th or lower.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#368 » by doordoor123 » Thu May 12, 2016 10:48 pm

UTJazzFan_Echo1 wrote:Some local media guys are saying the Jazz love Chriss but they don't believe he'll be there at 12.

I haven't heard much buzz around him which seems odd considering his combination of size, athletic ability and skill.

Does he stay on the board until the 12th pick?

Seems like a major sleeper if he gets to 12th or lower.


There's no chance he's there by 12.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#369 » by EvanZ » Fri May 13, 2016 10:17 pm

Robert Carter Jr. I love bigs that can shoot, dribble, and pass.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#370 » by No-Man » Fri May 13, 2016 10:29 pm

EvanZ wrote:Robert Carter Jr. I love bigs that can shoot, dribble, and pass.

check the 1st post from December myman
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#371 » by doordoor123 » Fri May 13, 2016 10:43 pm

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EvanZ wrote:Robert Carter Jr. I love bigs that can shoot, dribble, and pass.

check the 1st post from December myman


I mean he has and NBA body and he was bullying guys that don't. Having said that, I agree that he's an NBA player. I think his ceiling is a solid starter though.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#372 » by EvanZ » Fri May 13, 2016 10:49 pm

Fischella wrote:
EvanZ wrote:Robert Carter Jr. I love bigs that can shoot, dribble, and pass.

check the 1st post from December myman


I heard on another forum some issues about his motor and toughness. Any thoughts?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#373 » by sweetcity » Sat May 14, 2016 3:56 am

Pat McCaw looks like a gunner.... Malcolm Brogden could be a future Afflalo type player, thats good value in the late first round.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#374 » by doordoor123 » Sun May 15, 2016 2:52 pm

I think Ron Baker could be a really good player. If he really works on his game, he has the speed, 3 point stroke and defense to be a very good player. And if he learns to use his athleticism to finish finish well every time, look out!
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#375 » by doordoor123 » Thu May 19, 2016 12:12 pm

I think I said this before, but the biggest steal in the draft will be Malik Pope. Teams will overlook him because of his last year and his injury history, but he could be an elite talent. If it weren't for his issues he'd be right there with Dragan Bender IMO.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#376 » by Dr Positivity » Fri May 20, 2016 5:04 pm

Just discovered this guy, surprised he doesn't have more buzz

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZk_DBqVNHk[/youtube]

Raw athlete, physical tools driven guy, but has really good stats in French Pro A, like 24 PER with elite rebounding and good blocks, not that far off from Capela's season
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#377 » by Bum Adebayo » Fri May 20, 2016 6:39 pm

To me, Pascal Siakam will be a huge steal and it doesn't make any sense to see him in second round in most mocks. I mean, DX has him at 54, WTF is this?
While he is 22 years old, he started playing basketball like 5 years ago, so he is not your classical old, limited upside prospect.
Almost 6'10, very long wingspan, a decent 8'11.5" standing reach, high motor, provides some rim protection, has proven he can shot it, good athlete. Plenty to like.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#378 » by Dr Positivity » Wed May 25, 2016 6:26 am

Isaiah Whitehead is somewhat underrated to me. Yea he is showing all the signs of a low IQ chucker, but the talent otherwise is pretty interesting. Excellent measurables for a combo guard (6'9 wingspan, 210 pounds) combined with good steal and elite block, hits 36% from 3 on one of the highest volumes in the class and looks to me like he might be #1 in the whole draft in "creating jumpshot attempts off the dribble" skill for whatever it's worth, looks like a talented passer if a hotshot. At what point do you accept the likelihood of him being a chucker type in the NBA for the probability compared to peers that at least that makes him a real player?
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#379 » by Moooose » Wed May 25, 2016 8:23 am

I don't know if they can still be classified as sleepers but I think Caris Levert and Gary Payton II are first round worthy.
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Re: Potential sleepers 

Post#380 » by doordoor123 » Wed May 25, 2016 1:26 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:Isaiah Whitehead is somewhat underrated to me. Yea he is showing all the signs of a low IQ chucker, but the talent otherwise is pretty interesting. Excellent measurables for a combo guard (6'9 wingspan, 210 pounds) combined with good steal and elite block, hits 36% from 3 on one of the highest volumes in the class and looks to me like he might be #1 in the whole draft in "creating jumpshot attempts off the dribble" skill for whatever it's worth, looks like a talented passer if a hotshot. At what point do you accept the likelihood of him being a chucker type in the NBA for the probability compared to peers that at least that makes him a real player?


I've been thinking this in the back of my head too. He's also really quick with great explosion and he could be a good defender with his intensity. If he figures it out he can be one of the better players in this draft. I think a lot of people are judging him as a shooting guard, but he makes more sense as a point guard and he has elite size for a point guard.

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