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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#501 » by Wizenheimer » Sat May 14, 2016 2:52 am

zzaj wrote:I am liking Norris Cole and Teletovic more and more...


if you're going after a Phoenix stretch-4, I'd make Jsun happy and got after Jon Leuer. He a much better rebounder and defender then Teletovic

just for fun, here are some UFA stretch-4 options compared to Aminu:

http://bkref.com/tiny/1DD1F

if you sort by 3ptFG%:

Marvin Williams .402
Jonas Jerebko .398
Mirza Teletovic .393
Jon Leuer .382
Ryan Anderson .366
Al-Farouq Aminu .361

if you sort by assist/36:

Jon Leuer 2.1
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.1
Jonas Jerebko 1.9
Mirza Teletovic 1.9
Marvin Williams 1.7
Ryan Anderson 1.3

if you sort by PER:

Ryan Anderson 17.2
Marvin Williams 16.8
Mirza Teletovic 16.2
Jon Leuer 16.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 12.7
Jonas Jerebko 10.3

if you sort by TS%:

Marvin Williams .585
Mirza Teletovic .571
Jon Leuer .555
Ryan Anderson .546
Al-Farouq Aminu .533
Jonas Jerebko .531

if you sort by Rebound Rate:

Jon Leuer 16.1
Jonas Jerebko 13.0
Marvin Williams 12.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 11.5
Ryan Anderson 10.9
Mirza Teletovic 9.7

if you sort by usage:

Ryan Anderson 24.7
Mirza Teletovic 23.5
Jon Leuer 19.8
Al-Farouq Aminu 16.9
Marvin Williams 16.8
Jonas Jerebko 13.5

if you sort by win shares/48:

Marvin Williams .161
Mirza Teletovic .109
Jon Leuer .103
Jonas Jerebko .097
Ryan Anderson .092
Al-Farouq Aminu .082

if you sort by defensive wins shares:

Marvin Williams 3.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.3
Jonas Jerebko 1.5
Jon Leuer 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.9
Ryan Anderson 0.8

if you sort by defensive box plus/minus:

Marvin Williams 1.0
Al-Farouq Aminu 0.7
Jonas Jerebko 0.4
Jon Leuer 0.3
Mirza Teletovic -2.8
Ryan Anderson -2.9

if you sort by Value Over Replacement:

Marvin Williams 2.7
Al-Farouq Aminu 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.7
Jon Leuer 0.3
Ryan Anderson 0.3
Jonas Jerebko 0.0

even though for some of those stats you have to account for the level of team they were on, especially win share numbers, I think statistically, this is a slam-dunk for Williams

obviously, Anderson is the biggest name on the list, but that name will likely draw higher bidders, and frankly, between his injuries and his depressed 3 point shooting numbers over the last 2 years, he's a risky move. Although I suspect his shooting percentage would get better in the Stotts offense

Williams had a great season, but he performed crappily in the playoffs. Leuer is the best rebounder by far, and he has good length

I just threw Norris Cole's name out there. I know he's a decent defender, but he's apoor 3 pt shooter. Maybe I should do a comparison of the UFA PG's
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#502 » by zzaj » Sat May 14, 2016 3:07 am

Wizenheimer wrote:I just threw Norris Cole's name out there. I know he's a decent defender, but he's apoor 3 pt shooter. Maybe I should do a comparison of the UFA PG's


Doesn't matter about Norris, I've already moved on to Olshey buying the rights to Malcom Brogdon in the 2nd round as 3rd PG next year :wink:

As for the UFA PG's, you do a great job at these comparisons, and I'd love to see one...

In terms of the stretch 4 player that (hopefully) will be replacing Meyers' role...
Of those players I'm thinking that Leuer and Aminu (at 26 and 25) are the only players that will be adding more significant dimension to their games. I gotta think Olshey is looking for a long term starting PF.

We both know Vonleh isn't there yet and hasn't really shown many signs of getting there on the offensive end, despite some opportunities.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#503 » by Norm2953 » Sat May 14, 2016 3:21 am

I really think Portland will play thing by the ear for I would be amazed the guy the Magic gave
away for nothing (Harkless) would get an offer sheet that Portland would not match. Gerald
is well known in the league and if he gets a big offer to go elsewhere, more power to him.

Meyers is hurt and is not going to get any offers that Portland would not match. That leaves
Crabbe for if he gets a big money offer to go elsewhere, we need to let him go. On my
scoreboard that leaves Gerald on the way out unless he's willing to sign for less than his
cap hold and cap holds for Crabbe, Harkless and unfortunately Meyers unless his shoulder
is a major problem with the team doctors.

One player Portland may approach is Kent Bazemore of the Hawks who has come a long ways
from his days as a player who was buried on the GSW bench.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#504 » by scooterhd » Sat May 14, 2016 5:44 am

Olshey is already thinking outside the box. It's easy to look at the free agent list and say we need to sign Barnes and Whiteside and we will be much improved, but that is rather unlikely. Despite Stott's system, and the team's energy and potential, I just don't see Portland being a top free agent destination. Keep in mind that LA, Boston, and Dallas are probably going to have more cap space. Miami and New York can easily make room for max deals.

So how can we make a big splash and really improve the team? It may happen before free agency. I think Olshey will look to make a trade and absorb some salaries possibly around the draft. Last year he wanted Greg Monroe. The Bucks regressed this year and there are rumors that Monroe may be available. May have to involve a third team to take a bad contract and have the third team send draft picks to the Bucks, but its very doable. And could still allow for a second tier signing like Evan Fournier.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#505 » by Jsun947 » Sat May 14, 2016 5:58 am

Wizenheimer wrote:
zzaj wrote:I am liking Norris Cole and Teletovic more and more...


if you're going after a Phoenix stretch-4, I'd make Jsun happy and got after Jon Leuer. He a much better rebounder and defender then Teletovic

just for fun, here are some UFA stretch-4 options compared to Aminu:

http://bkref.com/tiny/1DD1F

if you sort by 3ptFG%:

Marvin Williams .402
Jonas Jerebko .398
Mirza Teletovic .393
Jon Leuer .382
Ryan Anderson .366
Al-Farouq Aminu .361

if you sort by assist/36:

Jon Leuer 2.1
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.1
Jonas Jerebko 1.9
Mirza Teletovic 1.9
Marvin Williams 1.7
Ryan Anderson 1.3

if you sort by PER:

Ryan Anderson 17.2
Marvin Williams 16.8
Mirza Teletovic 16.2
Jon Leuer 16.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 12.7
Jonas Jerebko 10.3

if you sort by TS%:

Marvin Williams .585
Mirza Teletovic .571
Jon Leuer .555
Ryan Anderson .546
Al-Farouq Aminu .533
Jonas Jerebko .531

if you sort by Rebound Rate:

Jon Leuer 16.1
Jonas Jerebko 13.0
Marvin Williams 12.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 11.5
Ryan Anderson 10.9
Mirza Teletovic 9.7

if you sort by usage:

Ryan Anderson 24.7
Mirza Teletovic 23.5
Jon Leuer 19.8
Al-Farouq Aminu 16.9
Marvin Williams 16.8
Jonas Jerebko 13.5

if you sort by win shares/48:

Marvin Williams .161
Mirza Teletovic .109
Jon Leuer .103
Jonas Jerebko .097
Ryan Anderson .092
Al-Farouq Aminu .082

if you sort by defensive wins shares:

Marvin Williams 3.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.3
Jonas Jerebko 1.5
Jon Leuer 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.9
Ryan Anderson 0.8

if you sort by defensive box plus/minus:

Marvin Williams 1.0
Al-Farouq Aminu 0.7
Jonas Jerebko 0.4
Jon Leuer 0.3
Mirza Teletovic -2.8
Ryan Anderson -2.9

if you sort by Value Over Replacement:

Marvin Williams 2.7
Al-Farouq Aminu 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.7
Jon Leuer 0.3
Ryan Anderson 0.3
Jonas Jerebko 0.0

even though for some of those stats you have to account for the level of team they were on, especially win share numbers, I think statistically, this is a slam-dunk for Williams

obviously, Anderson is the biggest name on the list, but that name will likely draw higher bidders, and frankly, between his injuries and his depressed 3 point shooting numbers over the last 2 years, he's a risky move. Although I suspect his shooting percentage would get better in the Stotts offense

Williams had a great season, but he performed crappily in the playoffs. Leuer is the best rebounder by far, and he has good length

I just threw Norris Cole's name out there. I know he's a decent defender, but he's apoor 3 pt shooter. Maybe I should do a comparison of the UFA PG's


I'm so glad to see that Wiz has come around. Kevin Pelton tweeted me back and seems to think Leuer is more of a mid level guy but agrees that he would be a good fit in Portland. Also mentioned how difficult it would be this offseason to sign guys to value contracts considering how much teams will be over paying. Sneaking in early on Leuer with an Aminu style offer sheet would be fantastic.

Also something I wanted to talk about is if Portland would offer McCollum a near max extension. Danny & Nate Duncan saw it as very unlikely, and I really hope we wouldn't just because having the rights to match in RFA and keep him on a cap hold would be really valuable next year if we're projected to have cap space again. On the other hand I also thought we would have done that with Lillard since it would have given us nearly 20 mil more in cap space this offseason.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#506 » by DusterBuster » Sat May 14, 2016 7:01 am

Jsun947 wrote:
Wizenheimer wrote:
zzaj wrote:I am liking Norris Cole and Teletovic more and more...


if you're going after a Phoenix stretch-4, I'd make Jsun happy and got after Jon Leuer. He a much better rebounder and defender then Teletovic

just for fun, here are some UFA stretch-4 options compared to Aminu:

http://bkref.com/tiny/1DD1F

if you sort by 3ptFG%:

Marvin Williams .402
Jonas Jerebko .398
Mirza Teletovic .393
Jon Leuer .382
Ryan Anderson .366
Al-Farouq Aminu .361

if you sort by assist/36:

Jon Leuer 2.1
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.1
Jonas Jerebko 1.9
Mirza Teletovic 1.9
Marvin Williams 1.7
Ryan Anderson 1.3

if you sort by PER:

Ryan Anderson 17.2
Marvin Williams 16.8
Mirza Teletovic 16.2
Jon Leuer 16.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 12.7
Jonas Jerebko 10.3

if you sort by TS%:

Marvin Williams .585
Mirza Teletovic .571
Jon Leuer .555
Ryan Anderson .546
Al-Farouq Aminu .533
Jonas Jerebko .531

if you sort by Rebound Rate:

Jon Leuer 16.1
Jonas Jerebko 13.0
Marvin Williams 12.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 11.5
Ryan Anderson 10.9
Mirza Teletovic 9.7

if you sort by usage:

Ryan Anderson 24.7
Mirza Teletovic 23.5
Jon Leuer 19.8
Al-Farouq Aminu 16.9
Marvin Williams 16.8
Jonas Jerebko 13.5

if you sort by win shares/48:

Marvin Williams .161
Mirza Teletovic .109
Jon Leuer .103
Jonas Jerebko .097
Ryan Anderson .092
Al-Farouq Aminu .082

if you sort by defensive wins shares:

Marvin Williams 3.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.3
Jonas Jerebko 1.5
Jon Leuer 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.9
Ryan Anderson 0.8

if you sort by defensive box plus/minus:

Marvin Williams 1.0
Al-Farouq Aminu 0.7
Jonas Jerebko 0.4
Jon Leuer 0.3
Mirza Teletovic -2.8
Ryan Anderson -2.9

if you sort by Value Over Replacement:

Marvin Williams 2.7
Al-Farouq Aminu 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.7
Jon Leuer 0.3
Ryan Anderson 0.3
Jonas Jerebko 0.0

even though for some of those stats you have to account for the level of team they were on, especially win share numbers, I think statistically, this is a slam-dunk for Williams

obviously, Anderson is the biggest name on the list, but that name will likely draw higher bidders, and frankly, between his injuries and his depressed 3 point shooting numbers over the last 2 years, he's a risky move. Although I suspect his shooting percentage would get better in the Stotts offense

Williams had a great season, but he performed crappily in the playoffs. Leuer is the best rebounder by far, and he has good length

I just threw Norris Cole's name out there. I know he's a decent defender, but he's apoor 3 pt shooter. Maybe I should do a comparison of the UFA PG's


I'm so glad to see that Wiz has come around. Kevin Pelton tweeted me back and seems to think Leuer is more of a mid level guy but agrees that he would be a good fit in Portland. Also mentioned how difficult it would be this offseason to sign guys to value contracts considering how much teams will be over paying. Sneaking in early on Leuer with an Aminu style offer sheet would be fantastic.

Also something I wanted to talk about is if Portland would offer McCollum a near max extension. Danny & Nate Duncan saw it as very unlikely, and I really hope we wouldn't just because having the rights to match in RFA and keep him on a cap hold would be really valuable next year if we're projected to have cap space again. On the other hand I also thought we would have done that with Lillard since it would have given us nearly 20 mil more in cap space this offseason.


The Lillard contract was more of a respect thing. He was obviously the Blazers face of the franchise and he had done a ton for the team already at that point, so you don't risk pissing off the closest thing the Blazers have had to a superstar since Drexler by penny pinching and ultimately costing Lillard millions by making him go out and get a max from some other team. You can play around like that with 2nd and 3rd option guys, but not franchise players.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#507 » by Jsun947 » Sat May 14, 2016 2:47 pm

We didn't have to go out and tell him to get other offers. We could have done the Spurs Leonard thing and given him the same exact deal.

We could have had Lillard, CJ, Aminu, Davis, Plumlee, Vonleh, Connoughton, Montero, Alexander, and about 53 million in cap space if we did renounce our free agents.

If we wanted Parsons, Leuer, Whiteside for example we would be able to go out and get all 3. If we traded Davis we could probably still keep Crabbe & Harkless too.

Lillard/CJ
CJ/Crabbe
Parsons/Aminu/Harkless
Leuer/Aminu/Harkless
Whiteside/Plumlee

With that being said I understand giving your franchise guy that actually gives a **** the security of a contract where he doesn't have to worry about a freak injury ending his career without ever getting the contract to begin with.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#508 » by tester551 » Sat May 14, 2016 4:40 pm

Jsun947 wrote:We didn't have to go out and tell him to get other offers. We could have done the Spurs Leonard thing and given him the same exact deal.

We could have had Lillard, CJ, Aminu, Davis, Plumlee, Vonleh, Connoughton, Montero, Alexander, and about 53 million in cap space if we did renounce our free agents.

If we wanted Parsons, Leuer, Whiteside for example we would be able to go out and get all 3. If we traded Davis we could probably still keep Crabbe & Harkless too.

Lillard/CJ
CJ/Crabbe
Parsons/Aminu/Harkless
Leuer/Aminu/Harkless
Whiteside/Plumlee

With that being said I understand giving your franchise guy that actually gives a **** the security of a contract where he doesn't have to worry about a freak injury ending his career without ever getting the contract to begin with.

The other side to consider is that this FA market is weak. Even if The Blazers had the extra cap space, I'm not sure it would make a difference. Who do you think Portland would miss out on with 'ONLY' $30M of cap space instead of $50M? The players would have to want to come here. Realistically, we will be lucky to get 1 of Whiteside or Parsons. Leaur will be cheap enough that we could still get him with the cap space we have.

It makes sense to hold off if there is a FA that you have a reasonable chance at getting... If you're in the same boat as everyone else, then not so much
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#509 » by Wizenheimer » Sat May 14, 2016 5:01 pm

considering everything that Lillard has said and done, he might have been OK with the situation if Olshey had explained that by waiting till this summer to agree to an extension, the Blazers would have had an extra 10 million in cap-space to pursue free agents

on the other hand, Lillard could have gone out this season and suffered a severe injury like Paul George or Wesley Matthews, so he would have had some incentive to get a deal done last summer

certainly, there are several good reasons for the Blazers to not give the same consideration to CJ as Lillard if there's a chance they'd have significant cap-space with CJ's cap-hold instead of a 1st year salary. I haven't looked at Portland possible 2017 cap situation; there would be a bunch of variables and unknowns though
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#510 » by Norm2953 » Sat May 14, 2016 7:06 pm

Reports of the players like Dame and CJ mostly staying in the Portland area with up to
10 other players makes one wonder if the team will really make any real changes to
the roster for if the UFA leave, Montero might get a big look at being the third guard
most of us want and Alexander might get some time if Kaman leaves and Meyers
is still out in September.

I'm thinking Portland will make an effort to get some draft picks for I see they were one
of 12 teams to workout Thon Maker, who might be 3 years away from being a player in
the league.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#511 » by zzaj » Sat May 14, 2016 10:17 pm

Re: Lillard. He seems like a loyal guy, but I just hope he remembers that the Organization did him a solid in locking him up early when it would have been more advantageous to wait.

It would be a pretty crappy move if he ended up pulling an Aldridge at the end of his contract--string the team along and then pull the "...the NBA is a business" line.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#512 » by tester551 » Sat May 14, 2016 11:23 pm

Norm2953 wrote:
I'm thinking Portland will make an effort to get some draft picks for I see they were one
of 12 teams to workout Thon Maker
, who might be 3 years away from being a player in
the league.

Where did you see that? What other players did Portland work out?
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#513 » by cjx » Sun May 15, 2016 12:35 am

In 2015-16, we experienced the prelude to the Rip City Dynasty.

In 2016-17, move over Golden State, Rip City is heading to the Finals, book it! We just have to (a) sign Al Horford & Evan Turner, (b) keep Crabbe & Harkless, and (c) get into the draft & select PF Marquese Chriss (no one will be able to handle the athleticism and versatility of an Aminu-Harkless-Chriss frontcourt). And the season will unfold as follows:

Regular season
* We start the season 11-0, Lillard is putting up MVP numbers, everyone is loving us.
* At the 30-game mark, we're 23-7, analysts & commentators are beginning to question whether we can sustain our level of play.
* At the halfway mark of the season, we're 28-13, Lillard & McCollum are named to the All-Star team, analysts are doubting whether the "young" Blazers are ready to make that next step.
* We're rejuvenated after All-Star weekend, improving to 46-19, including 2 wins over Golden State, the analysts are retracting their criticisms of Rip City.
* We finish the season 55-26, lock up the 3rd seed in the playoffs, and all key personnel are healthy. Terry Stotts is considered the front-runner for coach of the year, and Lillard averages 26 ppg & 41% 3-pt fg.

Playoffs
* We face the Jazz in the 1st rd and dispatch them in 5 games, Aminu explodes for 31 pts, going 7-8 from 3-pt range, & 10 rebs in the series clincher.
* We face the Thunder in the 2nd rd and eliminate them in 7 games, Lillard goes for 38 pts & McCollum 30 pts on the road in game 7, an OT thriller.
* In the conference finals, we face Golden State and get revenge. Learning from the mistakes made last playoffs, we're sharper on defense, and, consequently, eliminate the back-to-back champs in 5 games, Horford drops 24 pts & 19 rebs in the series clincher.
* We play Cleveland in the Finals, and a Lebron who is currently 0-2 in the Finals since rejoining the Cavs. Unfortunately for Lebron, Rip City makes it 0-3 by defeating the Cavs in 6 games, and Aminu is named Finals MVP with his combination of outstanding defense on Lebron & efficient scoring.

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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#514 » by Downtown » Sun May 15, 2016 1:12 am

cjx wrote:In 2016-17, move over Golden State, Rip City is heading to the Finals, book it! We just have to (a) sign Al Horford & Evan Turner, (b) keep Crabbe & Harkless, and (c) get into the draft & select PF Marquese Chriss (no one will be able to handle the athleticism and versatility of an Aminu-Harkless-Chriss frontcourt). And the season will unfold as follows:


Regardless of your other prophesies this one has a very slim chance of happening in it's entirety so if they have to accomplish this then the rest isn't going to happen.

But hey, stranger things can happen.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#515 » by Norm2953 » Sun May 15, 2016 7:40 am

tester551 wrote:
Norm2953 wrote:
I'm thinking Portland will make an effort to get some draft picks for I see they were one
of 12 teams to workout Thon Maker
, who might be 3 years away from being a player in
the league.

Where did you see that? What other players did Portland work out?


Actually he just met with the Blazers but he is turning heads at the draft combine.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#516 » by Blazer50 » Sun May 15, 2016 3:13 pm

Thought I'd see how a trade for Greg Monroe would stack up with this group. He is 25 years old (Leuer 27). Monroe would not be the Stretch PF - but could fit with other options at PF or Center.

Greg Monroe
if you sort by 3ptFG%: 0% 7th
if you sort by assit /36: 2.8 1st
if you sort by PER: 21.8 1st
if you sort by TS%: .562 3rd
if you sort by Rebound Rate: 15.3 2nd
if you sort by Usage: 23.5 2nd (tie)
if you sort by WS/48: .155 2nd
if you sort by Def WS: 2.4 2nd
if you sort by Def box +/-: 0.2 6th (1.3 in 2015 w/b 1st)

if you're going after a Phoenix stretch-4, I'd make Jsun happy and got after Jon Leuer. He a much better rebounder and defender then Teletovic

just for fun, here are some UFA stretch-4 options compared to Aminu:

http://bkref.com/tiny/1DD1F

if you sort by 3ptFG%:

Marvin Williams .402
Jonas Jerebko .398
Mirza Teletovic .393
Jon Leuer .382
Ryan Anderson .366
Al-Farouq Aminu .361

if you sort by assist/36:

Jon Leuer 2.1
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.1
Jonas Jerebko 1.9
Mirza Teletovic 1.9
Marvin Williams 1.7
Ryan Anderson 1.3

if you sort by PER:

Ryan Anderson 17.2
Marvin Williams 16.8
Mirza Teletovic 16.2
Jon Leuer 16.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 12.7
Jonas Jerebko 10.3

if you sort by TS%:

Marvin Williams .585
Mirza Teletovic .571
Jon Leuer .555
Ryan Anderson .546
Al-Farouq Aminu .533
Jonas Jerebko .531

if you sort by Rebound Rate:

Jon Leuer 16.1
Jonas Jerebko 13.0
Marvin Williams 12.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 11.5
Ryan Anderson 10.9
Mirza Teletovic 9.7

if you sort by usage:

Ryan Anderson 24.7
Mirza Teletovic 23.5
Jon Leuer 19.8
Al-Farouq Aminu 16.9
Marvin Williams 16.8
Jonas Jerebko 13.5

if you sort by win shares/48:

Marvin Williams .161
Mirza Teletovic .109
Jon Leuer .103
Jonas Jerebko .097
Ryan Anderson .092
Al-Farouq Aminu .082

if you sort by defensive wins shares:

Marvin Williams 3.2
Al-Farouq Aminu 2.3
Jonas Jerebko 1.5
Jon Leuer 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.9
Ryan Anderson 0.8

if you sort by defensive box plus/minus:

Marvin Williams 1.0
Al-Farouq Aminu 0.7
Jonas Jerebko 0.4
Jon Leuer 0.3
Mirza Teletovic -2.8
Ryan Anderson -2.9

if you sort by Value Over Replacement:

Marvin Williams 2.7
Al-Farouq Aminu 1.3
Mirza Teletovic 0.7
Jon Leuer 0.3
Ryan Anderson 0.3
Jonas Jerebko 0.0
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#517 » by chocodog » Sun May 15, 2016 3:38 pm

Blazer50 wrote:Thought I'd see how a trade for Greg Monroe would stack up with this group. He is 25 years old (Leuer 27). Monroe would not be the Stretch PF - but could fit with other options at PF or Center.

Greg Monroe
if you sort by 3ptFG%: 0% 7th
if you sort by assit /36: 2.8 1st
if you sort by PER: 21.8 1st
if you sort by TS%: .562 3rd
if you sort by Rebound Rate: 15.3 2nd
if you sort by Usage: 23.5 2nd (tie)
if you sort by WS/48: .155 2nd
if you sort by Def WS: 2.4 2nd
if you sort by Def box +/-: 0.2 6th (1.3 in 2015 w/b 1st)



I've never been a fan of Monroe's game but the blazers really don't have many other options. Perhaps it's a gamble worth taking. Bucks swung and missed with Monroe's signing so I imagine they'd like to get a re-do and dump his contract. I could be wrong but I feel like the blazers could acquire him for next to nothing. He'd pair ok with amino in the front court (with Davis, Plumee,Vonleh providing depth) as long blazers can lock in a good defender at the 3 - somebody like batum.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#518 » by Downtown » Sun May 15, 2016 4:33 pm

We are assuming a lot that Portland has the trade assets to get Monroe from Milwaukee. Take away Lillard, Aminu, and McCollum and I don't see it. That's unless we are assuming the Bucks are looking to dump him for salary relief but other than a few Bucks fans I've never read where they are.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#519 » by Masterfully » Sun May 15, 2016 4:37 pm

Downtown wrote:we are assuming the Bucks are looking to dump him for salary relief

Pretty much. Monroe is a risk, his track record of making teams better is not good. And he only has one year left on his contract before he can opt out. Vonleh or the Cleveland pick seems about right, all things considered.
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Re: Portland - 2016 Offseason 

Post#520 » by Wizenheimer » Sun May 15, 2016 5:47 pm

I don't like the idea of Monroe as the Blazer C. Not at all.

Monroe is a high usage, poor defense C. That seems like the opposite of the direction the Blazers should go

But Olshey. Paul Allen, and Stotts all met with him last summer in their pitch to get him to sign. And I think by then, they knew full well that Aldridge was gone. So maybe that interest is still there.

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I guess this is related to the off-season:

Blazers gave Memphis permission to interview assistant coach Nate Tibbets for the Memphis head coaching job:

http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2016/05/memphis_grizzlies_nate_tibbets.html#incart_river_home

I'd think the way the Blazers performed in the 2nd half of the season and in the playoffs has had a positive impact on the perceived value of Blazer players and Blazer coaches

unfortunately (a little), that will probably jack up the re-signing price os guys like Harkless and Crabbe

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