The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[lilfishi22]

So I found out how the Suns players are able to work out with the training staff. The season isn't over.


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What do you mean? Secret playoffs??

[ATTL]

I'm fully expecting the front office to champion a healthy Bledsoe as our main addition

He'll be trotted out on draft night and will be declared our pick this year.

[Jdiddy701]

So I found out how the Suns players are able to work out with the training staff. The season isn't over.


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What do you mean? Secret playoffs??

Haha no! I wrote a post a couple days ago saying how the heck were the Suns players working out with the training staff and Watson. I thought teams received fines for doing that in the offseason.

Then I realized they're able to do it because the 2015-2016 season technically isn't over yet. Makes sense how Mirza is also there since he's technically a free agent in the offseason. Mind blown! Anyways, carry on with your day everyone!


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[lilfishi22]

So I found out how the Suns players are able to work out with the training staff. The season isn't over.


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What do you mean? Secret playoffs??

Haha no! I wrote a post a couple days ago saying how the heck were the Suns players working out with the training staff and Watson. I thought teams received fines for doing that in the offseason.

Then I realized they're able to do it because the 2015-2016 season technically isn't over yet. Makes sense how Mirza is also there since he's technically a free agent in the offseason. Mind blown! Anyways, carry on with your day everyone!


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I did not know that. Why is that?

[jcsunsfan]

So I found out how the Suns players are able to work out with the training staff. The season isn't over.


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What do you mean? Secret playoffs??

Haha no! I wrote a post a couple days ago saying how the heck were the Suns players working out with the training staff and Watson. I thought teams received fines for doing that in the offseason.

Then I realized they're able to do it because the 2015-2016 season technically isn't over yet. Makes sense how Mirza is also there since he's technically a free agent in the offseason. Mind blown! Anyways, carry on with your day everyone!


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I don't think it is a violation at all for players to work out with training staff in the off season. Proper training is a year round affair and necessary for the health of the players. They cannot have mandatory practices in the off season as per the cba.


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[Jdiddy701]

Ahhhh, I don't know! I thought teams weren't able to do that. I tried searching online because I thought I read something in the past where teams weren't able to work out with players in the offseason. I guess they are.


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[Frank Lee]

i could easily see us giving David West a 2 yr supply of metamucil and more cash than anyone else to officially end his ring chasing.

[Mulhollanddrive]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/241883/76ers-Interested-In-Trade-If-They-Get-Two-Top-5-Picks

Did our refund expire?

[SeanE_Boy]

NOLA gets: Greg Monroe
PHX gets: NOLA pick, MKE pick
MKE gets: Eric Bledsoe

NOLA rationale: Does this team really need or want to add a rookie to this roster? If Dumars is in place before the draft I'm sure he'd love to make his first move be bringing in a hometown guy at a position of need, his history with Hammond would also help facilitate this obviously.

PHX rationale: Turning Bledsoe into 2 lottery picks would definitely mean they win the draft and get the headlines. They need to clear a back court spot for Booker and I feel like Knight is the better fit and better deal for them at this point.

MKE rationale: We know, or think we know, that the Bucks have been interested in Bledsoe in the past. I believe he has 3 years remaining on his deal for 13.4 a year, not a bad amount considering the cap jump that's coming. Systemically he gives the Bucks a guy who can play both on and off the ball, can be trusted with the ball late in games and can push the tempo.

I sometimes post to the Bucks board, would like to hear a PHX fan perspective though.




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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

NOLA gets: Greg Monroe
PHX gets: NOLA pick, MKE pick
MKE gets: Eric Bledsoe

NOLA rationale: Does this team really need or want to add a rookie to this roster? If Dumars is in place before the draft I'm sure he'd love to make his first move be bringing in a hometown guy at a position of need, his history with Hammond would also help facilitate this obviously.

PHX rationale: Turning Bledsoe into 2 lottery picks would definitely mean they win the draft and get the headlines. They need to clear a back court spot for Booker and I feel like Knight is the better fit and better deal for them at this point.

MKE rationale: We know, or think we know, that the Bucks have been interested in Bledsoe in the past. I believe he has 3 years remaining on his deal for 13.4 a year, not a bad amount considering the cap jump that's coming. Systemically he gives the Bucks a guy who can play both on and off the ball, can be trusted with the ball late in games and can push the tempo.

I sometimes post to the Bucks board, would like to hear a PHX fan perspective though.

While this would please a lot of Suns fans, we won't do it. We have too many picks as it is. The FO wants to win next season, and Bledsoe's a necessary component of any scenario in which we make the playoffs.

More importantly, NOLA would never go for that. Not even close. Would you trade the #6 for Greg Monroe?

Good effort though

[SeanE_Boy]

NOLA gets: Greg Monroe
PHX gets: NOLA pick, MKE pick
MKE gets: Eric Bledsoe

NOLA rationale: Does this team really need or want to add a rookie to this roster? If Dumars is in place before the draft I'm sure he'd love to make his first move be bringing in a hometown guy at a position of need, his history with Hammond would also help facilitate this obviously.

PHX rationale: Turning Bledsoe into 2 lottery picks would definitely mean they win the draft and get the headlines. They need to clear a back court spot for Booker and I feel like Knight is the better fit and better deal for them at this point.

MKE rationale: We know, or think we know, that the Bucks have been interested in Bledsoe in the past. I believe he has 3 years remaining on his deal for 13.4 a year, not a bad amount considering the cap jump that's coming. Systemically he gives the Bucks a guy who can play both on and off the ball, can be trusted with the ball late in games and can push the tempo.

I sometimes post to the Bucks board, would like to hear a PHX fan perspective though.

While this would please a lot of Suns fans, we won't do it. We have too many picks as it is. The FO wants to win next season, and Bledsoe's a necessary component of any scenario in which we make the playoffs.

More importantly, NOLA would never go for that. Not even close. Would you trade the #6 for Greg Monroe?

Good effort though

Would I? Absolutely not. But Dumars, assuming he's the next GM, drafted Monroe, is tight with John Hammond, and probably wants to win now. As I'm sure Gentry does as well. While I do think it's unlikely, I would say that it's more realistic than saying they would never go for that. Maybe including a pick going to NOLA would sweeten it.


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[WeekapaugGroove]

I wonder if the thunder shop ibaka around this summer. He's entering the final year of his deal and will get big money in 17. Russ and kd will have big extensions Kanter makes a lot of money and Adams is going to need a pretty big deal in the next two years. Ibaka is better than Adams but I think Adams is more important to the make up of that team.

Say the suns are picking 4th or 5th would you do that pick and tucker for ibaka? While I'm not in favor of win now type moves this offseason this deal would be tempting.

Now maybe the thunder could find a better deal but this would make some sense for them because tucker would be a solid role player in that system and the pick gives them a young cheap controlable asset for a guy who can just walk in a year. They would also get a trade exemption or a little cap to add another bench big to offset the ibaka loss.

[bwgood77]

I wonder if the thunder shop ibaka around this summer. He's entering the final year of his deal and will get big money in 17. Russ and kd will have big extensions Kanter makes a lot of money and Adams is going to need a pretty big deal in the next two years. Ibaka is better than Adams but I think Adams is more important to the make up of that team.

Say the suns are picking 4th or 5th would you do that pick and tucker for ibaka? While I'm not in favor of win now type moves this offseason this deal would be tempting.

Now maybe the thunder could find a better deal but this would make some sense for them because tucker would be a solid role player in that system and the pick gives them a young cheap controlable asset for a guy who can just walk in a year. They would also get a trade exemption or a little cap to add another bench big to offset the ibaka loss.

I don't think they will but I have seen some people start to hope that maybe they deal him because it looks like he might be in decline. Even Bondom, their mod, mentioned something of this nature. I would have never thought so even a few months ago, but you never know. I still think they keep in, particularly until they know what Durant is going to do .

[WeekapaugGroove]

I wonder if the thunder shop ibaka around this summer. He's entering the final year of his deal and will get big money in 17. Russ and kd will have big extensions Kanter makes a lot of money and Adams is going to need a pretty big deal in the next two years. Ibaka is better than Adams but I think Adams is more important to the make up of that team.

Say the suns are picking 4th or 5th would you do that pick and tucker for ibaka? While I'm not in favor of win now type moves this offseason this deal would be tempting.

Now maybe the thunder could find a better deal but this would make some sense for them because tucker would be a solid role player in that system and the pick gives them a young cheap controlable asset for a guy who can just walk in a year. They would also get a trade exemption or a little cap to add another bench big to offset the ibaka loss.

I don't think they will but I have seen some people start to hope that maybe they deal him because it looks like he might be in decline. Even Bondom, their mod, mentioned something of this nature. I would have never thought so even a few months ago, but you never know. I still think they keep in, particularly until they know what Durant is going to do .

They would have to get durant to buy into this trade. But say buddy's there at 5 couldn't the sell be buddy's shooting will help take pressure off him offensively, tuckers wing d takes pressure off him defensively and the money saved can be used to add a ring chasing vet big to round out the rotation. Plus tucker can play some small ball 4 which let's them still match-up with the teams you need to go small against without putting the wear and tear on Durant at the 4. And the fact tucker played with Durant at Texas can't hurt.

[8on]

.....I can't help but think that James Harden can be had. I'm not saying he's even remotely a good fit for the roster we have, but we have the assets to get him. The Clippers don't, the Celtics can't pair him with IT, the Hawks might take an a look at him. can't think of that many teams that could make it worth Houston's while, but after a 15 win decline from last season to this one, iwhat are the chances that he publicly demands a trade within 18 months? Probably pretty good. I don't know.....Harden/Booker would be downright nasty. Then we have a serious chance to sign another max guy. DeMarcus Cousins, for example.

[DirtyDez]

.....I can't help but think that James Harden can be had. I'm not saying he's even remotely a good fit for the roster we have, but we have the assets to get him. The Clippers don't, the Celtics can't pair him with IT, the Hawks might take an a look at him. can't think of that many teams that could make it worth Houston's while, but after a 15 win decline from last season to this one, iwhat are the chances that he publicly demands a trade within 18 months? Probably pretty good. I don't know.....Harden/Booker would be downright nasty. Then we have a serious chance to sign another max guy. DeMarcus Cousins, for example.

Boston should absolutely go after Harden using IT in the trade. Surrounding Harden with perimeter defenders like Bradley and Smart are the ideal backcourt mates for him. They would still need to add another star in the frontcourt.

[8on]

.....I can't help but think that James Harden can be had. I'm not saying he's even remotely a good fit for the roster we have, but we have the assets to get him. The Clippers don't, the Celtics can't pair him with IT, the Hawks might take an a look at him. can't think of that many teams that could make it worth Houston's while, but after a 15 win decline from last season to this one, iwhat are the chances that he publicly demands a trade within 18 months? Probably pretty good. I don't know.....Harden/Booker would be downright nasty. Then we have a serious chance to sign another max guy. DeMarcus Cousins, for example.

Boston should absolutely go after Harden using IT in the trade. Surrounding Harden with perimeter defenders like Bradley and Smart are the ideal backcourt mates for him. They would still need to add another star in the frontcourt.

good point, but as far as offers go?

Boston: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=zkrv53d

Phoenix: a) Harden for Bledsoe
b) Harden for our 1st and Knight
c) Harden for Tyson, Tucker, Booker, Warren and the Washington pick, or something

but yeah, Boston could get it done. i don't know....is that an upgrade? i'm not so sure.

[letsgosuns]

http://arizonasports.com/story/656222/blazers-frontcourt-success-provides-lessons-for-the-suns-roster-building/

Horrible idea. This guy wants the Suns to copy the Blazers blueprint? Uhh yeah okay. Let's just ignore the fact that the Blazers beat the Clippers because Paul and Griffin both got hurt in game 4 and missed the rest of the series. The Clippers were winning the series 2-1 and the first two games were blowouts in the Clippers favor. Then let's ignore how Steph Curry missed the first four games of the series against the Blazers.

If the Suns were fully healthy and played a seven game series versus the Clippers without Paul and Griffin, they might win in six games too. The Clippers are probably not even a playoff team without those two guys. The Suns could also probably pull off at least one win against the Warriors as well if Curry misses four games of the series. If the Suns do what this article says, they will suck again. Yes they will be awful. Seriously who the hell wants to copy the blueprint of a team that won 44 games and won games in the playoffs because of major injuries to the star players of their opponents.

[dremill24]

I think the point isn't so much to copy their exact blueprint as it is to find front court players with defensive versatility, which if you don't think is important then you're just lost.

[8on]

straight up: Portland got on a roll around the same time that Bledsoe went down for the season. coincidence? i think not so much.