Where now for Lin 2016/17

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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#81 » by bondom34 » Sat May 14, 2016 5:49 pm

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Lorenzomax7 wrote:Nope.

Yep. Sorry, but Lin isn't starting for the Spurs, he's not as good a player as Patty Mills. He's just not. You can dream of it all you'd like, but his performance to date outside a short spurt in NY hasn't shown the ability that Mills has.

If Spurs gets Lin, Lin will definitely starts over Mill. OKC beated Spurs because Parker played like garbage and old age. They need a playmaker and a penetrater, not just someone who can shoot 3. If Mill was able to fill that role, Pop would have him playing instead of Parker.

But I agreed that Parker is not going anywhere or getting a demotion any time soon. If Spurs do find a replacement for Parker, Parker will continue to start. Maybe he will get his minute cut. Parker will not get traded no matter what.

There's zero chance he'd start over Mills.

You said it, they didn't lose because of Mills. Mills played well, and would start.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#82 » by PG13 » Sat May 14, 2016 6:09 pm

spaceballer wrote:These highlights packages were posted today. Obviously, highlights don't tell the full story and can be used to make any player look good. But I thought it might be interesting in this discussion for the people who haven't seen him play much this season.



Thanks for sharing. I particular enjoyed the assists and defense ones.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#83 » by swijayas » Sat May 14, 2016 6:37 pm

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spaceballer wrote:These highlights packages were posted today. Obviously, highlights don't tell the full story and can be used to make any player look good. But I thought it might be interesting in this discussion for the people who haven't seen him play much this season.



Thanks for sharing. I particular enjoyed the assists and defense ones.


Pleasantly surprise with the floaters ... Seems slightly more of these compared to previous years.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#84 » by KM6 » Sat May 14, 2016 7:11 pm

swijayas wrote:
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spaceballer wrote:These highlights packages were posted today. Obviously, highlights don't tell the full story and can be used to make any player look good. But I thought it might be interesting in this discussion for the people who haven't seen him play much this season.



Thanks for sharing. I particular enjoyed the assists and defense ones.


Pleasantly surprise with the floaters ... Seems slightly more of these compared to previous years.


Since Lin was playing against SGs more this season, not as many post-ups either. Expecting more this upcoming season when he gets to play against PGs more.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#85 » by spaceballer » Sat May 14, 2016 8:15 pm

From Bleacher Report's write-up of the top 50 free agents:

Jeremy Lin

Age: 27

Free-Agency Status: Player option

2015-16 Salary: $2,139,000

Jeremy Lin is more valuable now than during the aptly named "Linsanity" era. His numbers aren't as gaudy, his place in Internet infamy not nearly as prominent. And that's fine.

Lin's stock no longer needs that statistical or perceptual validation—not after spearheading a Charlotte Hornets second unit that finished in the top 10 of both offensive and defensive efficiency, according to HoopsStats.com.

Playing a super deep point guard position will, of course, curtail Lin's market value. There aren't many starter's vacancies around the league, and his three-point touch remains suboptimal. But there is always a need for driving-loaded floor generals who can score and defer, in volume, off the bounce.

To that end, Lin is one of three attackers to close 2015-16 by scoring on at least 58 percent and passing on at least 35 percent of his drives while staging 300 or more of those downhill assaults. His statistical siblings: Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#86 » by sfballa13 » Sat May 14, 2016 8:22 pm

Perfect landing spot for Lin is in Detroit

SVG is a PG whisperer and Lin would play heavy minutes on the bench backing up Reggie/KCP

Barring some ridiculous offer, Detroit probably has a decent amount to offer Lin as well 9-12M a year
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#87 » by TinmanZBoy » Sat May 14, 2016 8:34 pm

sfballa13 wrote:Perfect landing spot for Lin is in Detroit

SVG is a PG whisperer and Lin would play heavy minutes on the bench backing up Reggie/KCP

Barring some ridiculous offer, Detroit probably has a decent amount to offer Lin as well 9-12M a year


If Lin plays a backup role, he'd better stay in Hornets...even with Less money...

a better choice would be OKC, Goatbrook will be either leaving or injured... perfect for lin to be the starter of OKC, a hobbled Goatbrook might still be good for a 6th man role... :wink: :wink: :wink:
oh, if the Goatbrook can't accept the reality, just trade him to the Spurs for Patty Mills to back up Lin...
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#88 » by KM6 » Sat May 14, 2016 8:41 pm

sfballa13 wrote:Perfect landing spot for Lin is in Detroit

SVG is a PG whisperer and Lin would play heavy minutes on the bench backing up Reggie/KCP

Barring some ridiculous offer, Detroit probably has a decent amount to offer Lin as well 9-12M a year


In my opinion, Lin would consider starting PG offers first. If nothing's really suites his needs, then backup position offers might be in play.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#89 » by TurnDownForWatt » Sat May 14, 2016 8:50 pm

RightToCensor wrote:I like him on the Mavericks. He fits the pick and roll/drive and kick system with Dirk and the spot up shooters surrounding them.

Lin, Parsons, and Howard all reuniting in Dallas.


I would love to see Lin on the Mavericks but Mark Cuban made some bad remarks on him last season. Plus I think the Mavericks rescinded the deal and pulled out of signing him.

I also think Parsons might be leaving.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#90 » by bondom34 » Sat May 14, 2016 9:26 pm

TBH, Lin wouldn't play over Cameron Payne on OKC.

If he plays for the MLE as a sixth man, sure.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#91 » by cw3k » Sat May 14, 2016 11:33 pm

bondom34 wrote:TBH, Lin wouldn't play over Cameron Payne on OKC.

If he plays for the MLE as a sixth man, sure.


Something is not right here. You saying Lin is good enough to sixth man, yet is worst than Payne who average 5 points a game and bouncing in and out of d-league?

I guess Lin to you, who has won many big games is nothing but a deep bench warmer.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#92 » by bondom34 » Sun May 15, 2016 12:03 am

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bondom34 wrote:TBH, Lin wouldn't play over Cameron Payne on OKC.

If he plays for the MLE as a sixth man, sure.


Something is not right here. You saying Lin is good enough to sixth man, yet is worst than Payne who average 5 points a game and bouncing in and out of d-league?

I guess Lin to you, who has won many big games is nothing but a deep bench warmer.

Payne would play bc he is younger and has potential. Lin doesn't.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#93 » by Slava » Sun May 15, 2016 12:47 am

spaceballer wrote:From Bleacher Report's write-up of the top 50 free agents:

Jeremy Lin

Age: 27

Free-Agency Status: Player option

2015-16 Salary: $2,139,000

Jeremy Lin is more valuable now than during the aptly named "Linsanity" era. His numbers aren't as gaudy, his place in Internet infamy not nearly as prominent. And that's fine.

Lin's stock no longer needs that statistical or perceptual validation—not after spearheading a Charlotte Hornets second unit that finished in the top 10 of both offensive and defensive efficiency, according to HoopsStats.com.

Playing a super deep point guard position will, of course, curtail Lin's market value. There aren't many starter's vacancies around the league, and his three-point touch remains suboptimal. But there is always a need for driving-loaded floor generals who can score and defer, in volume, off the bounce.

To that end, Lin is one of three attackers to close 2015-16 by scoring on at least 58 percent and passing on at least 35 percent of his drives while staging 300 or more of those downhill assaults. His statistical siblings: Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul.


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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#94 » by nomansland » Sun May 15, 2016 12:49 am

Lin is one of the guys who can cash in because of the cap going up. I bet he gets a deal that will make a lot of people say, "WHAT?!?!" But in 3 years won't look so outrageous.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#95 » by spaceballer » Sun May 15, 2016 1:20 am

Slava wrote:
spaceballer wrote:From Bleacher Report's write-up of the top 50 free agents:

Jeremy Lin

Age: 27

Free-Agency Status: Player option

2015-16 Salary: $2,139,000

Jeremy Lin is more valuable now than during the aptly named "Linsanity" era. His numbers aren't as gaudy, his place in Internet infamy not nearly as prominent. And that's fine.

Lin's stock no longer needs that statistical or perceptual validation—not after spearheading a Charlotte Hornets second unit that finished in the top 10 of both offensive and defensive efficiency, according to HoopsStats.com.

Playing a super deep point guard position will, of course, curtail Lin's market value. There aren't many starter's vacancies around the league, and his three-point touch remains suboptimal. But there is always a need for driving-loaded floor generals who can score and defer, in volume, off the bounce.

To that end, Lin is one of three attackers to close 2015-16 by scoring on at least 58 percent and passing on at least 35 percent of his drives while staging 300 or more of those downhill assaults. His statistical siblings: Kawhi Leonard and Chris Paul.


:rofl: are you sure its not the onion?


It's one of the featured writers on BR (i.e., one of the professionals they pay to write for them and not just a random fan who signs up for the site and submits something) :lol:

Apparently JLin, Kawhi, and CP3 are the only three with that statistical profile of being both a good finisher on drives (scoring on 58% of drives), and a good distributor with the court vision and passing ability to set teammates up on those drives (creating on 35% of drives). And do it in over a significant sample size (300 drives).

I guess everyone else either goes for the bucket but doesn't set up teammates much, or sets up teammates but fails to finish their own shots at the rim.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#96 » by KM6 » Sun May 15, 2016 2:42 am

spaceballer wrote:
Slava wrote:
spaceballer wrote:From Bleacher Report's write-up of the top 50 free agents:



:rofl: are you sure its not the onion?


It's one of the featured writers on BR (i.e., one of the professionals they pay to write for them and not just a random fan who signs up for the site and submits something) :lol:

Apparently JLin, Kawhi, and CP3 are the only three with that statistical profile of being both a good finisher on drives (scoring on 58% of drives), and a good distributor with the court vision and passing ability to set teammates up on those drives (creating on 35% of drives). And do it in over a significant sample size (300 drives).

I guess everyone else either goes for the bucket but doesn't set up teammates much, or sets up teammates but fails to finish their own shots at the rim.


Well you guessed right, because otherwise they would also be on the list.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#97 » by lin is ok » Sun May 15, 2016 10:01 am

bondom34 wrote:
cw3k wrote:
bondom34 wrote:TBH, Lin wouldn't play over Cameron Payne on OKC.

If he plays for the MLE as a sixth man, sure.


Something is not right here. You saying Lin is good enough to sixth man, yet is worst than Payne who average 5 points a game and bouncing in and out of d-league?

I guess Lin to you, who has won many big games is nothing but a deep bench warmer.

Payne would play bc he is younger and has potential. Lin doesn't.

Yea Payne starting PG?
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#98 » by bondom34 » Sun May 15, 2016 10:04 am

If Westbrook is gone, yes.
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#99 » by lin is ok » Sun May 15, 2016 1:52 pm

bondom34 wrote:If Westbrook is gone, yes.


sounds like the "anybody but lin club"
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Re: Where now for Lin 2016/17 

Post#100 » by sfballa13 » Sun May 15, 2016 4:13 pm

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sfballa13 wrote:Perfect landing spot for Lin is in Detroit

SVG is a PG whisperer and Lin would play heavy minutes on the bench backing up Reggie/KCP

Barring some ridiculous offer, Detroit probably has a decent amount to offer Lin as well 9-12M a year


In my opinion, Lin would consider starting PG offers first. If nothing's really suites his needs, then backup position offers might be in play.


If the money is the same and the minutes are nearly the same, then it wont matter to Lin

he is not your typical egotistical moron NBA player looking to get his in terms of minutes and stats

he is smart enough to understand the impact that he could have on Detroit off the bench

Honestly Id rather the Pistons spend that 10-12M on Teletovic rather than Lin but if we cant get him then we should definitely go after Lin/Delladova

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