ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors | CLE 2-1

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Series Predictions

Cavaliers in 4
172
24%
Cavaliers in 5
150
21%
Cavaliers in 6
80
11%
Cavaliers in 7
12
2%
Raptors in 4
107
15%
Raptors in 5
6
1%
Raptors in 6
59
8%
Raptors in 7
124
17%
 
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#461 » by yoyoboy » Mon May 16, 2016 7:02 pm

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yoyoboy wrote:Yeah, the Cavs usually turn Biyombo into prime Shaq so the possibility of Jonas playing versus not playing isn't really a concern of mine right now.


IDK, man. I get why you want to be cautious but it shouldn't be at the expense of your own belief in the Cavs capabilities.

Biyombo will have his hands full if Frye/Love is at the 5. I'm a little less confident in Love's ability to blaze, but I must admit every time Frye shoots an open 3 I think it's going in. He is a true dead-eye.

Drummond has regularly abused us even more than Biyombo, so it's not like we'll be facing something new.

Valanciunas being out is the only reason I see us winning in 5 (maybe 4). Toronto's depth will suffer from it, and when LBJ is running with our bench it'll put even more pressure on them.

Being from and living in Cleveland, I'll always have my concerns. But Toronto is the team with the uphill battle in this series, not the Cavs.

True, but I guess that Orlando series (along with all the their past Cleveland sports failures) have permanently scarred me.

The thing people don't understand about Cleveland sports is we don't just lose. No, that would be too easy. The sports gods have to first get our hopes up and make us think that we actually have a chance - to taste a championship and finally end the drought. And then...boom! In an instant it all comes crashing down and we're facing reality once again.

I'd compare it to when Lucy makes Charlie Brown think she's going to keep the football in place. He's running and running and he's almost there, but then she takes it away at the last second and he falls flat on his face. That's Cleveland sports in a nutshell. The Drive...the Fumble...the Move...the Shot...Red Right 88...the Decision...Game 7 of the 1997 World Series...and the Cavs' injuries last season... It just doesn't end. And now we have probably the best Cleveland sports team in our entire history, but it still might not be enough, because we'll have to eventually get through what might be the greatest NBA team of all time.

So I'm taking it one game at a time. I thought we'd get though Orlando no problem, so I'm not going to disregard the Raptors and look towards the Finals already.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#462 » by Vee-Rex » Mon May 16, 2016 7:08 pm

yoyoboy wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Yeah, the Cavs usually turn Biyombo into prime Shaq so the possibility of Jonas playing versus not playing isn't really a concern of mine right now.


IDK, man. I get why you want to be cautious but it shouldn't be at the expense of your own belief in the Cavs capabilities.

Biyombo will have his hands full if Frye/Love is at the 5. I'm a little less confident in Love's ability to blaze, but I must admit every time Frye shoots an open 3 I think it's going in. He is a true dead-eye.

Drummond has regularly abused us even more than Biyombo, so it's not like we'll be facing something new.

Valanciunas being out is the only reason I see us winning in 5 (maybe 4). Toronto's depth will suffer from it, and when LBJ is running with our bench it'll put even more pressure on them.

Being from and living in Cleveland, I'll always have my concerns. But Toronto is the team with the uphill battle in this series, not the Cavs.

True, but I guess that Orlando series (along with all the their past Cleveland sports failures) have permanently scarred me.

The thing people don't understand about Cleveland sports is we don't just lose. No, that would be too easy. The sports gods have to first get our hopes up and make us think that we actually have a chance - to taste a championship and finally end the drought. And then...boom! In an instant it all comes crashing down and we're facing reality once again.

I'd compare it to when Lucy makes Charlie Brown think she's going to keep the football in place. He's running and running and he's almost there, but then she takes it away at the last second and he falls flat on his face. That's Cleveland sports in a nutshell. The Drive...the Fumble...the Move...the Shot...Red Right 88...the Decision...Game 7 of the 1997 World Series...and the Cavs' injuries last season... It just doesn't end. And now we have probably the best Cleveland sports team in our entire history, but it still might not be enough, because we'll have to eventually get through what might be the greatest NBA team of all time.

So I'm taking it one game at a time. I thought we'd get though Orlando no problem, so I'm not going to disregard the Raptors and look towards the Finals already.


Fair enough. :D

I won't be able to help myself. I was in Mexico last year during the finals and got plastered when we went up 2-1. I'll be in downtown Cleveland doing the same thing if we have similar success this year.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#463 » by Statlanta » Mon May 16, 2016 7:09 pm

yoyoboy wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Yeah, the Cavs usually turn Biyombo into prime Shaq so the possibility of Jonas playing versus not playing isn't really a concern of mine right now.


IDK, man. I get why you want to be cautious but it shouldn't be at the expense of your own belief in the Cavs capabilities.

Biyombo will have his hands full if Frye/Love is at the 5. I'm a little less confident in Love's ability to blaze, but I must admit every time Frye shoots an open 3 I think it's going in. He is a true dead-eye.

Drummond has regularly abused us even more than Biyombo, so it's not like we'll be facing something new.

Valanciunas being out is the only reason I see us winning in 5 (maybe 4). Toronto's depth will suffer from it, and when LBJ is running with our bench it'll put even more pressure on them.

Being from and living in Cleveland, I'll always have my concerns. But Toronto is the team with the uphill battle in this series, not the Cavs.

True, but I guess that Orlando series (along with all the their past Cleveland sports failures) have permanently scarred me.

The thing people don't understand about Cleveland sports is we don't just lose. No, that would be too easy. The sports gods have to first get our hopes up and make us think that we actually have a chance - to taste a championship and finally end the drought. And then...boom! In an instant it all comes crashing down and we're facing reality once again.

I'd compare it to when Lucy makes Charlie Brown think she's going to keep the football in place. He's running and running and he's almost there, but then she takes it away at the last second and he falls flat on his face. That's Cleveland sports in a nutshell. The Drive...the Fumble...the Move...the Shot...Red Right 88...the Decision...Game 7 of the 1997 World Series...and the Cavs' injuries last season... It just doesn't end. And now we have probably the best Cleveland sports team in our entire history, but it still might not be enough, because we'll have to eventually get through what might be the greatest NBA team of all time.

So I'm taking it one game at a time. I thought we'd get though Orlando no problem, so I'm not going to disregard the Raptors and look towards the Finals already.


Even with the GOAT series LeBron had his mismatches typically led to meeting Dwight at the rim while Dwight's led to Dunks and rebounds. Also the lack of 3pt shooting around LeBron did not help when he was dominating
The Greatest of All Time debate in basketball is essentially who has the greatest basketball resume of the player who has the best highlights instead of who is the best player
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#464 » by Bourne85 » Mon May 16, 2016 7:21 pm

Sisqo wrote:
Bourne85 wrote:
rarefind wrote:
LOL

Acknowledge Miami's injuries and fail to acknowledge Toronto's. Whatever you need to get you through the next 4 months friend. Lowry and Derozan have been wildly inconsistent, but the Heat had no answer for KL last night at all.


Il get through the next 4 months just fine. Your offseason isn't too far away either (4 more games to be exact) let's not be delusional.

If anything I'd be scared str8 at Raps offseason. Derozan Max incoming lol. It's no secret 90% of the Raps board doesn't even want him back. Yet somehow they are the "second best backcourt" FOH with that trollish nonsense.

Your own fan base hates him. That tells me all I need to know.

Add in other teams fan bases like the lakers are praying their FO isn't dumb enough to sign this guy. I've gone on record to say if Derozan is in a heat uniform I would stop following the heat instantly lol.

Enjoy what's left of your season. Winter is coming. This will be as good as it gets for the raps imo. Took them awhile and they needed key injuries and for the heat to be down more than half their salary cap to get there but they did it!



Who has said our whole fan base hates him? You are making the assumption that a group of the people on realgm is our whole fanbase. Kinda foolish if you ask me.

Winter is coming? dumbass summer is coming and we are still in the playoffs. You mention the Injuries to Miami but forget that all year toronto battled injuries as well and still ended up second in the east and beat you in the playoffs.. If you can't make a point without ignoring the other side of the discussion you might as well stop because no one is going to listen to you ramble because you come across as a homer.


You didn't actually think I meant winter was coming as in actually winter lol it's just a saying from GOT's. End is near bud.

Injuries to over paid role players like Carrol and JV during the regular season cannot compare to losing franchise superstars like Bosh and Hassan. And losing an all time great like Lebron as well. I'd say we did just fine everything considered.

Like I said, enjoy the last 4 to 5 games left in the season. Enjoy the taste of the ECF. Enjoy hating on Derozan on the reasonable contract that he is on, cuz soon that's gonna be super max 30% SG.

Take it all in. Never know how long it could take to make it back to this stage.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#465 » by mademan » Mon May 16, 2016 7:26 pm

I think TOR puts up more of a fight than people expect, but still lose in 5 or 6
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#466 » by RatherUnique » Mon May 16, 2016 7:39 pm

yoyoboy wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Yeah, the Cavs usually turn Biyombo into prime Shaq so the possibility of Jonas playing versus not playing isn't really a concern of mine right now.


IDK, man. I get why you want to be cautious but it shouldn't be at the expense of your own belief in the Cavs capabilities.

Biyombo will have his hands full if Frye/Love is at the 5. I'm a little less confident in Love's ability to blaze, but I must admit every time Frye shoots an open 3 I think it's going in. He is a true dead-eye.

Drummond has regularly abused us even more than Biyombo, so it's not like we'll be facing something new.

Valanciunas being out is the only reason I see us winning in 5 (maybe 4). Toronto's depth will suffer from it, and when LBJ is running with our bench it'll put even more pressure on them.

Being from and living in Cleveland, I'll always have my concerns. But Toronto is the team with the uphill battle in this series, not the Cavs.

True, but I guess that Orlando series (along with all the their past Cleveland sports failures) have permanently scarred me.

The thing people don't understand about Cleveland sports is we don't just lose. No, that would be too easy. The sports gods have to first get our hopes up and make us think that we actually have a chance - to taste a championship and finally end the drought. And then...boom! In an instant it all comes crashing down and we're facing reality once again.

I'd compare it to when Lucy makes Charlie Brown think she's going to keep the football in place. He's running and running and he's almost there, but then she takes it away at the last second and he falls flat on his face. That's Cleveland sports in a nutshell. The Drive...the Fumble...the Move...the Shot...Red Right 88...the Decision...Game 7 of the 1997 World Series...and the Cavs' injuries last season... It just doesn't end. And now we have probably the best Cleveland sports team in our entire history, but it still might not be enough, because we'll have to eventually get through what might be the greatest NBA team of all time.

So I'm taking it one game at a time. I thought we'd get though Orlando no problem, so I'm not going to disregard the Raptors and look towards the Finals already.

The '09 Magic were the best defensive team in basketball, Dwight Howard was a top 10 player in the league & you were guarding him with a 33 year old big Z :lol:

The '16 Raptors are missing their 2nd most talented player, and their 3rd best player is one of the most dreadful postseason shooters in the history of the sport. And their best player is wildly inconsistent.

This series will not last very long.
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Post#467 » by JN » Mon May 16, 2016 7:42 pm

Bourne85 wrote:Injuries to over paid role players like Carrol and JV during the regular season cannot compare to losing franchise superstars like Bosh and Hassan. And losing an all time great like Lebron as well. I'd say we did just fine everything considered.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#468 » by Bankai » Mon May 16, 2016 7:55 pm

yoyoboy wrote:
Vee-Rex wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:Yeah, the Cavs usually turn Biyombo into prime Shaq so the possibility of Jonas playing versus not playing isn't really a concern of mine right now.


IDK, man. I get why you want to be cautious but it shouldn't be at the expense of your own belief in the Cavs capabilities.

Biyombo will have his hands full if Frye/Love is at the 5. I'm a little less confident in Love's ability to blaze, but I must admit every time Frye shoots an open 3 I think it's going in. He is a true dead-eye.

Drummond has regularly abused us even more than Biyombo, so it's not like we'll be facing something new.

Valanciunas being out is the only reason I see us winning in 5 (maybe 4). Toronto's depth will suffer from it, and when LBJ is running with our bench it'll put even more pressure on them.

Being from and living in Cleveland, I'll always have my concerns. But Toronto is the team with the uphill battle in this series, not the Cavs.

True, but I guess that Orlando series (along with all the their past Cleveland sports failures) have permanently scarred me.

The thing people don't understand about Cleveland sports is we don't just lose. No, that would be too easy. The sports gods have to first get our hopes up and make us think that we actually have a chance - to taste a championship and finally end the drought. And then...boom! In an instant it all comes crashing down and we're facing reality once again.

I'd compare it to when Lucy makes Charlie Brown think she's going to keep the football in place. He's running and running and he's almost there, but then she takes it away at the last second and he falls flat on his face. That's Cleveland sports in a nutshell. The Drive...the Fumble...the Move...the Shot...Red Right 88...the Decision...Game 7 of the 1997 World Series...and the Cavs' injuries last season... It just doesn't end. And now we have probably the best Cleveland sports team in our entire history, but it still might not be enough, because we'll have to eventually get through what might be the greatest NBA team of all time.

So I'm taking it one game at a time. I thought we'd get though Orlando no problem, so I'm not going to disregard the Raptors and look towards the Finals already.

Well you are facing another cursed sports town now so no advantages there lol
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Post#469 » by DBA » Mon May 16, 2016 7:57 pm

JN wrote:
Bourne85 wrote:Injuries to over paid role players like Carrol and JV during the regular season cannot compare to losing franchise superstars like Bosh and Hassan. And losing an all time great like Lebron as well. I'd say we did just fine everything considered.
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:laugh:

let him have his moment, their standards are just not as high as ours are for our players, 12 & 11 are definitely superstar numbers
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#470 » by Bourne85 » Mon May 16, 2016 8:01 pm

DBA wrote:
JN wrote:
Bourne85 wrote:Injuries to over paid role players like Carrol and JV during the regular season cannot compare to losing franchise superstars like Bosh and Hassan. And losing an all time great like Lebron as well. I'd say we did just fine everything considered.
.


:laugh:

let him have his moment, their standards are just not as high as ours are for our players, 12 & 11 are definitely superstar numbers


Pretty sure it's us letting you have your moment. Albeit a very short lived moment.

Il be sure to tune in to the raps upcoming game threads with pop corn in hand.
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Post#471 » by smallgains » Mon May 16, 2016 8:09 pm

Wow. I had no idea Heat fans were so bitter. Go get some sun, it's just a game that other people play.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#472 » by jumpstart » Mon May 16, 2016 8:10 pm

Cavs in 4. Raptors are horrible. The east stinks. Cav are mostly at risk losing the first game because Lebron always give the first one up.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#473 » by Latrell » Mon May 16, 2016 8:10 pm

Bourne85 wrote:
DBA wrote:
JN wrote:
:laugh:

let him have his moment, their standards are just not as high as ours are for our players, 12 & 11 are definitely superstar numbers


Pretty sure it's us letting you have your moment. Albeit a very short lived moment.

Il be sure to tune in to the raps upcoming game threads with pop corn in hand.


Raptors are in the Conference Finals and will get a Top 10 pick tomorrow. Pretty sure not many teams can claim that.

But by all means , continue your patronizing of Raptors fans. Your salty-ness couldn't be more transparent.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#474 » by rarefind » Mon May 16, 2016 8:36 pm

jumpstart wrote:Cavs in 4. Raptors are horrible. The east stinks. Cav are mostly at risk losing the first game because Lebron always give the first one up.


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Post#475 » by Bruteque » Mon May 16, 2016 8:43 pm

Raps in 3. It'll be basically over in 2, but it'll be 3 before Cavs fully lose heart.
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Post#476 » by RaptorsLife » Mon May 16, 2016 8:45 pm

Jonas valancineus was destroying Whiteside. 18pts 12 rebs nice excuse heat fans. Raptors would have won in 5 with val
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Post#478 » by smallgains » Mon May 16, 2016 9:28 pm

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Is that a flying pimp?
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Post#479 » by Transistor » Mon May 16, 2016 9:37 pm

SMH to those that think this will not be a competitive series.
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Re: ECF: | (1) Cleveland Cavaliers vs (2) Toronto Raptors 

Post#480 » by Vee-Rex » Mon May 16, 2016 9:38 pm

rarefind wrote:
jumpstart wrote:Cavs in 4. Raptors are horrible. The east stinks. Cav are mostly at risk losing the first game because Lebron always give the first one up.


lol


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