NBA Draft Lottery Tuesday May, 17 2016

[umfan83]

They should do a lottery for each of the first 14 picks. Keep the same odds for all 14 picks (so the 14th team still has incredibly low odds but more chances to move up). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do this. As a Bulls fan I'd be a lot more interested in watching this show if all 14 spots were up for grabs. As it is, I don't think I'll go out of my way to watch.

[samwana]

what time is the lottery?

Is it on the halftime of Cleveland practice against Toronto?

It says 8 pm Eastern on ESPN

[Peelboy]

They should do a lottery for each of the first 14 picks. Keep the same odds for all 14 picks (so the 14th team still has incredibly low odds but more chances to move up). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do this. As a Bulls fan I'd be a lot more interested in watching this show if all 14 spots were up for grabs. As it is, I don't think I'll go out of my way to watch.

The NBA decided that it was better to give the worst teams a "no worse than" outcome. Makes some sense, imagine if you had a bad team (not a Philly tankapalooza, just a bad team), and ended up in #14 while a team like the Bulls got #1?

[umfan83]

They should do a lottery for each of the first 14 picks. Keep the same odds for all 14 picks (so the 14th team still has incredibly low odds but more chances to move up). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do this. As a Bulls fan I'd be a lot more interested in watching this show if all 14 spots were up for grabs. As it is, I don't think I'll go out of my way to watch.

The NBA decided that it was better to give the worst teams a "no worse than" outcome. Makes some sense, imagine if you had a bad team (not a Philly tankapalooza, just a bad team), and ended up in #14 while a team like the Bulls got #1?

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to not automatically reward the very worst teams with high draft picks.

The way the NBA is set up is you need uber superstars to win. You can't get uber superstars (if you aren't Miami or LA) without getting a high draft pick (at least 90% of the time). You can't get a high draft pick unless you are terrible.

In the format I proposed, It would be nearly impossible for Philly to end up with the #14 pick. They'd have a 25% chance at 1, slightly higher shot at 2 if they didnt get 1, slightly higher shot at 3 if they didnt get 1 or 2, etc etc. At the end, if Philly still wasn't among the first 12 picks. They would have like a 99.999% chance of getting the 13th pick over someone like the Bulls.

NBA purgatory is a worse problem for the NBA than NBA hell IMO. Anything small bit we can do to eliminate the teams that have absolutely no chance at a title but are kept together because they are competitive enough to put butts in seats is fine with me.

Here are all the teams that are decent but have no shot at a title:

Heat
Hawks
Celtics
Hornets
Pacers
Pistons
Bulls
Wizards
Magic
Blazers
Mavericks
Grizzlies
Rockets
Jazz

(Giving the benefit of doubt to the Clippers and Raptors here)

Of those teams, only a handful have any chance of acquiring a superstar without bottoming out. But many of those teams also have owners that want to keep their teams competitive and not bottom out because it brings them more revenue.

I'm sort of getting off track here but yeah I think this would increase the excitement for teams outside the 5 worst teams watching. Maybe the Bulls still have virtually no shot at a top 3 pick, but maybe they end up with the 9th pick. That would be cool.

[Ralphb07]

The good thing is the Bulls hopes get crush right away when they're announced at 14.

[Am2626]

They should do a lottery for each of the first 14 picks. Keep the same odds for all 14 picks (so the 14th team still has incredibly low odds but more chances to move up). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do this. As a Bulls fan I'd be a lot more interested in watching this show if all 14 spots were up for grabs. As it is, I don't think I'll go out of my way to watch.

The NBA decided that it was better to give the worst teams a "no worse than" outcome. Makes some sense, imagine if you had a bad team (not a Philly tankapalooza, just a bad team), and ended up in #14 while a team like the Bulls got #1?

It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to not automatically reward the very worst teams with high draft picks.

The way the NBA is set up is you need uber superstars to win. You can't get uber superstars (if you aren't Miami or LA) without getting a high draft pick (at least 90% of the time). You can't get a high draft pick unless you are terrible.

In the format I proposed, It would be nearly impossible for Philly to end up with the #14 pick. They'd have a 25% chance at 1, slightly higher shot at 2 if they didnt get 1, slightly higher shot at 3 if they didnt get 1 or 2, etc etc. At the end, if Philly still wasn't among the first 12 picks. They would have like a 99.999% chance of getting the 13th pick over someone like the Bulls.

NBA purgatory is a worse problem for the NBA than NBA hell IMO. Anything small bit we can do to eliminate the teams that have absolutely no chance at a title but are kept together because they are competitive enough to put butts in seats is fine with me.

Here are all the teams that are decent but have no shot at a title:

Heat
Hawks
Celtics
Hornets
Pacers
Pistons
Bulls
Wizards
Magic
Blazers
Mavericks
Grizzlies
Rockets
Jazz

(Giving the benefit of doubt to the Clippers and Raptors here)

Of those teams, only a handful have any chance of acquiring a superstar without bottoming out. But many of those teams also have owners that want to keep their teams competitive and not bottom out because it brings them more revenue.

I'm sort of getting off track here but yeah I think this would increase the excitement for teams outside the 5 worst teams watching. Maybe the Bulls still have virtually no shot at a top 3 pick, but maybe they end up with the 9th pick. That would be cool.

If the Heat have a healthy Chris Bosh, I think they have a legitimate chance to win the East. They are at least better than the Raptors with Bosh.

[DarthDiggler69]

The NBA decided that it was better to give the worst teams a "no worse than" outcome. Makes some sense, imagine if you had a bad team (not a Philly tankapalooza, just a bad team), and ended up in #14 while a team like the Bulls got #1?

It might not be bad because it makes tanking alot more risky

[MrSparkle]

Honestly, umfan's 14-team lottery (with no top-3 draw) would make things more interesting, by a landslide.

Every team would instantly become more competitive, and it would eliminate tanking, unless some team wants to take a big/longshot gamble and tank out of the 8th seed in the last week of the season (and lose playoff revenue in the process).

It would really terrorize terrible teams, and give them every incentive to improve their roster, because with a stroke of bad luck, a Philly could end up with the 14th pick.

I honestly see no cons. I don't know about everybody else, but even through the ups and downs of our respectable Thibs team, the rest of the NBA has been plain boring the last decade.

Come on man -- Lebron's mug has been in every June NBA game since 2011. And the problem isn't that he's been the best player, but it's because he played the rest of the NBA and colluded with several other all-stars in making a super team.

The only "surprise" of the century has been Golden State. I sure as hell didn't see them coming.

But I can't fore-see any other team coming up like them. It's on Minnesota or Philadelphia to consolidate their super assets and make something happen. It only took a decade of mediocrity and tanking to get to this opportunity.

[RakimAbdulJabar]

If the Bulls get ridiculously lucky and get the #1 pick they need to trade it, attach Dunleavy, Snell & Bairstow and trade it to the team willing to give them the best package because when I see Beasley...I mean Simmons I see a bust, the guy is severely overrated in my opinion

Would the Clippers give up Griffin and their pick for a package of Taj, Dunleavy, Snell, Bairstow and the #1 pick?

So we are trading a #1 pick we can lock in for 8 years for a guy who can walk and sign with another team after next season? Is the goal to clear the most cap space possible? Why not attach Jimmy too? That would clear $75MM off the books

No, my suggestion was to trade a guy who I think is going to be a bust, for a guy we agree to extend. I made no mention of clearing cap space or trading Butler

[Southpaw]

The good thing is the Bulls hopes get crush right away when they're announced at 14.

Or the Bulls dreams come true early when another team is announced at 14

[RebuildaBulls]

Hope there is massive shakeup in the order

[DuckIII]

The Basketball Gods owe us one after what happened to Rose and they are paying tonight!

Getting the #1 to pick Rose was a freebie in the first place, so I dont think the Gods owe us but we can damn sure use another

Getting Rose was compensation for what happened to Jay Williams. They still owe us one!

I think you have it backwards. Williams and Rose happened because we still owe tribute for Pippen and Jordan. By my count, we're still short 35 chickens, 11 lambs, 2 first-born sons and an adult female virgin of comely appearance.

[RebuildaBulls]

Mutumbo congratulated the Sixers on getting the top pick and deleted it, does he know something?

[BahamaBull]

The good thing is the Bulls hopes get crush right away when they're announced at 14.

It will be so fast lol

but we can always dream about a miracle cant we?

[sco]

Honestly, umfan's 14-team lottery (with no top-3 draw) would make things more interesting, by a landslide.

Every team would instantly become more competitive, and it would eliminate tanking, unless some team wants to take a big/longshot gamble and tank out of the 8th seed in the last week of the season (and lose playoff revenue in the process).

It would really terrorize terrible teams, and give them every incentive to improve their roster, because with a stroke of bad luck, a Philly could end up with the 14th pick.

I honestly see no cons. I don't know about everybody else, but even through the ups and downs of our respectable Thibs team, the rest of the NBA has been plain boring the last decade.

Come on man -- Lebron's mug has been in every June NBA game since 2011. And the problem isn't that he's been the best player, but it's because he played the rest of the NBA and colluded with several other all-stars in making a super team.

The only "surprise" of the century has been Golden State. I sure as hell didn't see them coming.

But I can't fore-see any other team coming up like them. It's on Minnesota or Philadelphia to consolidate their super assets and make something happen. It only took a decade of mediocrity and tanking to get to this opportunity.

You might have late season mini-tanking to avoid playoffs. We'd all be congratulating the Bulls for that effort this year.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

Philly already won.

EDIT: I tried to post a tweet in which Dikembe Mutombo congratulated Philly on winning the #1 pick (hours before the draft lottery), but it looks like he deleted it. If Philly wins, we gotta riot.

[Repeat 3-peat]

The lottery drawings hasn't even started yet, so Philly winning isn't confirmed

[Red Larrivee]

They should do a lottery for each of the first 14 picks. Keep the same odds for all 14 picks (so the 14th team still has incredibly low odds but more chances to move up). I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do this. As a Bulls fan I'd be a lot more interested in watching this show if all 14 spots were up for grabs. As it is, I don't think I'll go out of my way to watch.

Because in the scenarios where a legitimately horrible team drops below a team that just missed the playoffs, owners aren't going to be happy.

I think the current system is fair. Maybe there should be a rule against consecutive lottery wins (to prevent repeat winners like Cleveland and Orlando from years back), but that's about it.

[Jcool0]

Philly already won.

EDIT: I tried to post a tweet in which Dikembe Mutombo congratulated Philly on winning the #1 pick (hours before the draft lottery), but it looks like he deleted it. If Philly wins, we gotta riot.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Rachel__Nichols/status/732682084028928006[/tweet]

[Dominator83]

The Basketball Gods owe us one after what happened to Rose and they are paying tonight!

Getting the #1 to pick Rose was a freebie in the first place, so I dont think the Gods owe us but we can damn sure use another

They gifted us Rose but took that gift away after just 3 years (all intents and purposes). Hes been either out of service or a shell of himself since 2011, his 3rd year in the league