Kolkmania wrote:ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Gun to my head, i'm taking Ingram, but damn is it close....Like really close...Like 51% Ingram 49% Simmons. I've seen Ingram be a two way player, dominant on both sides of the ball, I haven't seen Simmons be dominant defensively and that is my biggest concern is his defense.
Simmons never got the chance to show himself on the defensive end because of the zone defense. Actually I believe he never got the chance to show himself on the offensive end as well. It was really frustrating to see the lack of plays designed for Simmons this year, him creating from the elbow could be something magical.
Ingram had a nice role fitting his playstyle in my opinion. He's not the shotcreator Simmons is and wasn't forced to. Letting Grayson Allen drive and kick to Ingram is perfect for him, catch and shoot or attack the closeout. He had some wonderful blocks with those majestic long arms, but not completely sold on the defensive end yet (but that would be a miracle with his age).
What I'm trying to say is that the desired roles and opportunities given by the team and coach matter a lot. Really difficult to look through these kind of things.
Seems to me that between Ingram and Simmons, Simmons was in a better situation to showcase his talent.
The team is built around him and it's obvious.
Simmons’ box scores have grown increasingly hollow. One NBA executive described him as a “taller Rajon Rondo, a more athletic Evan Turner, or a skinnier Royce White.” Simmons has displayed a penchant for stat-mongering like few players in recent memory, seeming to pad his numbers in blowouts. At times, it appears he only passes when guaranteed an assist and chases home-run plays at inopportune times in search of a highlight. Simmons seems to value those things over winning.
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Offense. He was not asked to create that much from the perimeter. He's more of a post player and a roller off PnR on halfcourt.
He has an incredible ability to change speeds, get to the rim and finish in transition. In the half-court, things haven’t been quite as easy against better teams, particularly late in games.
Defense, I thought he has low blocks per game for his size. Specially if he opts to play the PF position.
Overall, Simmons is a match-up nightmare on transition. But I do see him struggling on the half-court setting. He may get to the line but his FT% will hurt him. I also think there's a fundamental flaw on his perimeter shooting, specially with the rumor that he needs to change his shooting hand that would lead him to start from scratch or low base rate. If he can't shoot, there are far more longer wings who will sag off him that limits his ability to create and penetrate.
My suggestion from my experience with Mudiay and Evan Turner. You need to look a prospect in relative to how smooth his transition is from the amateur to the NBA. Don't be fooled by collegiate stats or NBA ready skills. Range is premium at the wings and guards position. You need to be a good post/interior scorer and or can stretch the floor if you will play PF.
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