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Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion

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Who will the Lakers pick?

Ben Simmons
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25%
Brandon Ingram
111
59%
Other
31
16%
 
Total votes: 189

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Post#141 » by dipstick » Wed May 18, 2016 1:48 pm

jigga_man wrote:
drone3 wrote:
Kobe System wrote:
Ingram should start ahead of Matt Barnes.


I was referring to Harrison Barnes


Would there be enough cap for Whiteside + Derozan + Barnes? All three will most likely command the max. Actually thinking about it, Derozan would compliment well with Ingram and Russell.

Russell/Derozan/Ingram/Randle/Whiteside is a pretty balanced lineup. Both Derozan and Whiteside are in their mid 20's so they can grow with the younger prospects. Barnes is unnecessary, imo.


That's not a very popular opinion, but you may be correct. Derozan with Russell and Ingram might make for a good combination.

On the other hand, if we end up with Simmons, Barnes might be the better candidate rather than Derozan.
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Post#142 » by NBAWestFan » Wed May 18, 2016 1:59 pm

Lakers need to be patient unless KD and WB 2017 say they are coming.

They have a nice young core and should try to build a team like
the Twolves should they get Ingram. ( A team for the future, similar to the Twolves)

It looks like

Dlo
Clarkson
Ingram/
Randle
C ?

The obvious choice is Whiteside has the youth to go with a young team.
Even with Whiteside they need to build a Bench with a better front court
and perimeter and all around defense.

Simmons poses some factors to build a win now team. ( A team in the Now)
If I get Simmons then I am looking to bring in KD this summer, Whiteside or trade
for a big like Cousins, Marc Gasol or another Big Center who can Defend. Bring
in back-up Defenders, Rebounders and Big Bodies who can play.

I am moving Randle or Clarkson or both to Bring in a Top guy with Simmons
hoping to land Westbrook in 2017. Should OKC when the title that changes everything.

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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#143 » by iamworthy » Wed May 18, 2016 2:31 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/kevinding/status/732935432267124737[/tweet]

Ingram makes so much sense for both the Lakers and Sixers. I think over the next few weeks there's going to be a lot of baiting by the Sixers to get a asset out of us if they think we really want Ben. When actually their plan is to take Ingram the whole time.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#144 » by NBAWestFan » Wed May 18, 2016 2:51 pm

I ve seen the Sixers seems to be 1/2 and 1/2 for each a lot of pros can con's and alot of debate and headaches

I guess 2nd is the no pressure pick as some mention. Just take the other guy.
Alot of pressure on the Sixers and there fans.

Simmons requires some tweaking for both teams.

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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#145 » by The Skyhook » Wed May 18, 2016 3:00 pm

iamworthy wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/kevinding/status/732935432267124737[/tweet]

Ingram makes so much sense for both the Lakers and Sixers. I think over the next few weeks there's going to be a lot of baiting by the Sixers to get a asset out of us if they think we really want Ben. When actually their plan is to take Ingram the whole time.

I think in this entire situation Boston might actually be able to help us out. If Philly trusts Embiid and Noel over Okafor we might see something like Okafor and the 24th or 26th for Bostons 3rd and 16th. This might be able to clear way for Philly to take Simmons. Regardless of who they like, Philly will probably have to move one of the 3 bigs especially with Saric coming over.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#146 » by The Skyhook » Wed May 18, 2016 3:05 pm

I can't edit my post on my phone for some reason but I just want to add that in curious how Ding knows what the Lakers thinking is. The front office never leaks anything and they're going as far as not allowing the media in for workouts so it doesn't add up.
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Post#147 » by Michael Lucky » Wed May 18, 2016 3:05 pm

Trades for the first two picks are so rare that I don't even bother discussing it. People always seem to forget that their value is sky high not because of just potential but because of how cost control they are.
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Post#148 » by Slava » Wed May 18, 2016 3:19 pm

The Skyhook wrote:I can't edit my post on my phone for some reason but I just want to add that in curious how Ding knows what the Lakers thinking is. The front office never leaks anything and they're going as far as not allowing the media in for workouts so it doesn't add up.


Ding usually doesn't open his mouth and claim inside sources unless he has something. I'd trust him.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#149 » by dirtymike » Wed May 18, 2016 3:30 pm

wafer88 wrote:http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/2/5/10921474/la-lakers-ben-simmons-nba-draft-2016



Ok I'm going to relax and try to control my excitement.....Everyone should read this about Simmons and the Lakers though

After reading this...my is made up! Let's get Ben!
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#150 » by No-Man » Wed May 18, 2016 3:31 pm

Russell-Simmons would be nice to watch, not sure how Clarkson or Randle fit but who cares honestly, they are just guys.
Nance will work as a back-up PF and smallball C

Sign a Ezeli or something similar, Mahinmi if Festus is too pricey, sign shooters to surround those two, work on that and let them grow.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#151 » by iamworthy » Wed May 18, 2016 3:32 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:Trades for the first two picks are so rare that I don't even bother discussing it. People always seem to forget that their value is sky high not because of just potential but because of how cost control they are.


Do you consider kevin love sky high because cabs traded their number one pick for him right? Or was there more to that trade?
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Post#152 » by Slava » Wed May 18, 2016 3:40 pm

iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Trades for the first two picks are so rare that I don't even bother discussing it. People always seem to forget that their value is sky high not because of just potential but because of how cost control they are.


Do you consider kevin love sky high because cabs traded their number one pick for him right? Or was there more to that trade?


That was GM Lebron. If we get Durant and another all star, we probably do the same.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#153 » by Michael Lucky » Wed May 18, 2016 3:48 pm

iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Trades for the first two picks are so rare that I don't even bother discussing it. People always seem to forget that their value is sky high not because of just potential but because of how cost control they are.


Do you consider kevin love sky high because cabs traded their number one pick for him right? Or was there more to that trade?

That is a horrible example. We don't have Lebron here to please in order to get him to resign the next year.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#154 » by Penberthy » Wed May 18, 2016 3:50 pm

If we end up with Simmons, I don't think we necessarily have to trade Randle, as I think he would beast every single back up C in the L, especially under the warriors system. He has 2 inches on Draymond.

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PF Randle (14) Simmons (30) Nance (4)
C Whiteside (30) Randle (18)

Nance acquires a 3pt shot and gets the rest of his minutes at backup SF as he has mentioned. That is a nasty rebounding team.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#155 » by iamworthy » Wed May 18, 2016 3:52 pm

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iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Trades for the first two picks are so rare that I don't even bother discussing it. People always seem to forget that their value is sky high not because of just potential but because of how cost control they are.


Do you consider kevin love sky high because cabs traded their number one pick for him right? Or was there more to that trade?

That is a horrible example. We don't have Lebron here to please in order to get him to resign the next year.


So you think our pick is more valuable than a kevin love? You said the value of the pick is sky high so I'm trying to Gage the value. Give me a player you think the number two pick is worth straight up.
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Post#156 » by Slava » Wed May 18, 2016 3:59 pm

Penberthy wrote:If we end up with Simmons, I don't think we necessarily have to trade Randle, as I think he would beast every single back up C in the L, especially under the warriors system. He has 2 inches on Draymond.

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PF Randle (14) Simmons (30) Nance (4)
C Whiteside (30) Randle (18)

Nance acquires a 3pt shot and gets the rest of his minutes at backup SF as he has mentioned. That is a nasty rebounding team.


or just start Simmons at PG like Giannis.

Simmons - Russell - SF - Randle - C
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#157 » by Michael Lucky » Wed May 18, 2016 4:06 pm

iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
Do you consider kevin love sky high because cabs traded their number one pick for him right? Or was there more to that trade?

That is a horrible example. We don't have Lebron here to please in order to get him to resign the next year.


So you think our pick is more valuable than a kevin love? You said the value of the pick is sky high so I'm trying to Gage the value. Give me a player you think the number two pick is worth straight up.

I would not trade for a player that is not a top 10 player or a very young top of the line talent. So you make your list of who you consider top 10. Because for anyone else you probably are still looking at paying max money for a number 2 or 3 option while giving away a highly valued asset at $5-8 million a year.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#158 » by Penberthy » Wed May 18, 2016 4:12 pm

Slava wrote:
Penberthy wrote:If we end up with Simmons, I don't think we necessarily have to trade Randle, as I think he would beast every single back up C in the L, especially under the warriors system. He has 2 inches on Draymond.

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PF Randle (14) Simmons (30) Nance (4)
C Whiteside (30) Randle (18)

Nance acquires a 3pt shot and gets the rest of his minutes at backup SF as he has mentioned. That is a nasty rebounding team.


or just start Simmons at PG like Giannis.

Simmons - Russell - SF - Randle - C


Would love that and to get Russell back to SG. I always wanted Lamar to play more at SF. What is are people arguments against Simmons at SF?
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#159 » by iamworthy » Wed May 18, 2016 4:13 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:
iamworthy wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:That is a horrible example. We don't have Lebron here to please in order to get him to resign the next year.


So you think our pick is more valuable than a kevin love? You said the value of the pick is sky high so I'm trying to Gage the value. Give me a player you think the number two pick is worth straight up.

I would not trade for a player that is not a top 10 player or a very young top of the line talent. So you make your list of who you consider top 10. Because for anyone else you probably are still looking at paying max money for a number 2 or 3 option while giving away a highly valued asset at $5-8 million a year.


I'm not saying you're wrong but I don't think the number two pick lands us Paul George in a straight up swap. If it can then I'm severely under estimating the value of the pick.
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Re: Lakers 2016 NBA draft #2 pick discussion 

Post#160 » by Marionettetc » Wed May 18, 2016 4:17 pm

Fischella wrote:Russell-Simmons would be nice to watch


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