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Post#41 » by eddieheatfan » Wed May 18, 2016 4:49 am

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gom wrote:This is about right:

http://www.mypalmbeachpost.com/news/sports/basketball/miami-heat-too-soon-to-level-with-lebron-james-but/nrNmt/

A realistic perspective. Honestly, the only reason I wanted to win on Sunday was because the Raptors fans have been so obnoxious. Friday's win was enough for me.
i dont think the heat has a chance of landing durant and even moreso that they are in the finals already.specially when he saw that the heat had trouble going out of the first round and never got a chance of getting out of the second.although,it makes sense what the author of that article said in which miami defaulted this year so ... that next year they'll have a chance to come back badder and better.and bout bosh to me is good as gone because ira said it and for the fact that bosh didnt even made the trip to toronto to cheer for his team mates


You do realize that we didn't have Bosh in either round nor Whiteside in the second round don't you?
dude the whiteside and bosh injuries were tragic but you dont remember that even under bosh and whiteside the heat had some disastrous games agaisnt terrible nba teams. so this would have all been different conversation under bosh is utter nonsense

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25449051/heats-chris-bosh-our-mentality-right-now-is-just-really-really-bad
this is HIM talking about how bad it was
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Re: Season Summary Thread, share your final thougts about the year here 

Post#42 » by gom » Wed May 18, 2016 5:05 am

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eddieheatfan wrote:i dont think the heat has a chance of landing durant and even moreso that they are in the finals already.specially when he saw that the heat had trouble going out of the first round and never got a chance of getting out of the second.although,it makes sense what the author of that article said in which miami defaulted this year so ... that next year they'll have a chance to come back badder and better.and bout bosh to me is good as gone because ira said it and for the fact that bosh didnt even made the trip to toronto to cheer for his team mates


You do realize that we didn't have Bosh in either round nor Whiteside in the second round don't you?
dude the whiteside and bosh injuries were tragic but you dont remember that even under bosh and whiteside the heat had some disastrous games agaisnt terrible nba teams. so this would have all been different conversation under bosh is utter nonsense

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25449051/heats-chris-bosh-our-mentality-right-now-is-just-really-really-bad
this is HIM talking about how bad it was


On the other hand, Bosh was one of those contributing to the solution. We did have bad games. Teams do, especially when teams are still learning to play together. Concluding that Bosh couldn't have helped us immensely in the playoffs because he couldn't counteract the heroball and messy defensive rotations at the beginning of the season is a huge stretch.

If Bosh returns and we sign Whiteside, Wade, and Deng, our team will have a really strong chance to get to the ECF again. Our problem is we aren't good enough to win, even with Dragic, Richardson, Winslow, and the others playing better. You can see how Cleveland is mauling Toronto right now. Having Whiteside would protect the paint, but he's only one guy. We need at least one other very strong big.
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Re: Season Summary Thread, share your final thougts about the year here 

Post#43 » by HIF » Wed May 18, 2016 6:47 am

gom wrote:
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You do realize that we didn't have Bosh in either round nor Whiteside in the second round don't you?
dude the whiteside and bosh injuries were tragic but you dont remember that even under bosh and whiteside the heat had some disastrous games agaisnt terrible nba teams. so this would have all been different conversation under bosh is utter nonsense

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25449051/heats-chris-bosh-our-mentality-right-now-is-just-really-really-bad
this is HIM talking about how bad it was


On the other hand, Bosh was one of those contributing to the solution. We did have bad games. Teams do, especially when teams are still learning to play together. Concluding that Bosh couldn't have helped us immensely in the playoffs because he couldn't counteract the heroball and messy defensive rotations at the beginning of the season is a huge stretch.

If Bosh returns and we sign Whiteside, Wade, and Deng, our team will have a really strong chance to get to the ECF again. Our problem is we aren't good enough to win, even with Dragic, Richardson, Winslow, and the others playing better. You can see how Cleveland is mauling Toronto right now. Having Whiteside would protect the paint, but he's only one guy. We need at least one other very strong big.


Of course we'd have a chance to beat Cleveland. We beat them this season and if we're fit we can beat anybody. And of course Cleveland could also pick up injuries. Hate the way our team is being trashed by our own supporters.
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Re: Season Summary Thread, share your final thougts about the year here 

Post#44 » by eddieheatfan » Wed May 18, 2016 6:34 pm

HIF wrote:
gom wrote:
eddieheatfan wrote:dude the whiteside and bosh injuries were tragic but you dont remember that even under bosh and whiteside the heat had some disastrous games agaisnt terrible nba teams. so this would have all been different conversation under bosh is utter nonsense

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/25449051/heats-chris-bosh-our-mentality-right-now-is-just-really-really-bad
this is HIM talking about how bad it was


On the other hand, Bosh was one of those contributing to the solution. We did have bad games. Teams do, especially when teams are still learning to play together. Concluding that Bosh couldn't have helped us immensely in the playoffs because he couldn't counteract the heroball and messy defensive rotations at the beginning of the season is a huge stretch.

If Bosh returns and we sign Whiteside, Wade, and Deng, our team will have a really strong chance to get to the ECF again. Our problem is we aren't good enough to win, even with Dragic, Richardson, Winslow, and the others playing better. You can see how Cleveland is mauling Toronto right now. Having Whiteside would protect the paint, but he's only one guy. We need at least one other very strong big.

Of course we'd have a chance to beat Cleveland. We beat them this season and if we're fit we can beat anybody. And of course Cleveland could also pick up injuries. Hate the way our team is being trashed by our own supporters.
i'm not trashing the heat. i'm just pointing out something that i saw.that there were times in which the heat looked like a convoluted mess and there were times in which they seemed like a top 2 team if not the top team of the east by the way they were playing with the fast phase.which btw, we saw little of that in the playoffs and i think it was because the heat were also gassed to play that style of basketball.another thing, i have chris bosh jersey and i like the guy but he has been a terrible player most of the time during his tenure with the heat.he was supposed to be our first or second option since wade is aging and to ME he has failed to deliver with the exception of a few games in which he shined
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Post#45 » by HIF » Thu May 19, 2016 12:01 pm

Post ASB we played a lot of the weaker teams. It's easier to look good against them.

In the playoffs teams plan on how to nullify your strengths. We played fast at times in the playoffs but it was an out of control speed caused by good defensive teams adjusting and getting a lead on us.
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Post#46 » by DayofMourning » Fri May 20, 2016 4:19 pm

A few thoughts:

I liked how our guys fought after Chris going down for the second consecutive season. That could have been back breaking, but they fought through it and got the third seed. Proud of these guys.

Chris' injury caused other guys to expand their games in new ways. This will only help moving forward. Deng is a great example. He showed he could be a great small ball four. That's good to know.

I loved the progression of our young guys. Winslow and Richardson both showed vastly improved three point shooting. They were god awful at the beginning of the season, and ended the RS being above league average. They reverted in the playoffs, but that's to be expected.

I was disappointed in Green and Amare. Green is a waste of a roster space. I'd rather have a guy who can give me consistent minutes, instead of such an extreme amount of hot and cold like GG contributed this year. How many good games did he have? I don't think I need to use two hands to count. Amare the matador. There are several big men who can make it in this league being able to hit jump shots from ten feet AND play defense. An undrafted guy can give you more than Amare on defense, and hit a jump shot.

We need big man depth. Amare and Josh can not be counted on. That's our depth. They provided next to nothing the majority of games. When a 36 year old Haslem is your go to bench big it says a lot about your other bench players. I think we need two guys for sure this year who can be counted on to be consistent. They don't have to be game changers, but they have to show up every single game.

We need to continue to improve our shooting. We can't just go out and sign shooters, we need to develop that skill set from within. Winslow and Rich showed they could improve. Similarly, Hassan vastly improved his FT shooting. We've apparently got some pretty good shooting coaches and some hard working guys. Keep building that confidence.

I love our youth at the moment, and think that drafting a couple more guys or getting another d league prospect added to the roster could help us sustain our success as Wade's career winds down. To compete for a chip, we need a supreme team effort, because a superstar doesn't appear to be on the horizon to save us. I think our balance of vets and youth could get it done, but we have to embrace the team. Better passing, better shooting, more trust, chemistry, etc.
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Post#47 » by twix2500 » Sat May 21, 2016 11:52 pm

Goran Dragic - Started off out of shape not ready to play. The second half his motor started to get running. When the playoffs came, very impressed as he started to find his way. He must utilize his jumper implement it into his game. We started to see it versus the Raptors. And its much needed because he will get plenty of wide open shots, not only 3 pters but mid rangers as well. He needs to be a player who provides spacing not only needs spacing. His defense needs to improve dramatically. He cant let the Jeremy Lins of the world put him on the bench. But I think he knows this, and it all starts with him coming into shape the start of camp.

Dwyane Wade - Well surprised me that he was able to make it through the season with good legs, and it showed if his legs hold up his game is still elite. Praying he can do it again next season. CMon Wade add a 3 pt game, not asking for much at least 2 shots per game.

Joe Johnson - He pretty much did exactly what I thought he could do. He provided the needed spacing, contributed as a passer, and a post guy. Even when he struggle with his shot he found ways to give the Hornets and Raptors trouble. Missing from his game was transition points, and better off the ball play. If Joe returns, hopefully he can lose some weight without losing strength. Weight lost should allow him get on out transition and move off the ball more often. Also allow him to be quicker defensively. Its something he has acknowledge.

Luol Deng - Liability the first half of the season, glad he found a his niche as a PF. Became the disrupter that we all were expecting. Spo need to keep him in the scheme to get those corner threes (the only place he can hit 3s but he accurate as hell there). If he comes back, he should be used exactly the same way swing PF,SF. The second half of the season, I would say was the best I ever seen him play.

Hassan Whiteside - Its a must that both sides agree to a happy contract. Everyone screaming Max, but I wouldn't be surprised if he signs a deal similar to Dragic. Stay focus and professional, and he can continue to grow to the big time player he was the second half.

Chris Bosh - Pray that the Heat/Bosh can find a plan that will prevent these clots. He is the key to this current roster being a contender.

Josh Richardson - The second half exceeded my expectations, he was Aaron McKey on steroids. I feel just wrong asking for him to do more. Surprise me again please.

Justise Winslow - Defense was on point along with Richardson. Work on that offensive game, needs to totally remodify his shooting completely. Will be watching the summer league for that offense to improve.

Tyler Johnson - Hopefully he returns, looked great the first half of the season prior to injury. If the Heat get lucky and gets Tyler to return for the low, it will be amazing backcourt depth.

Amare Stoudemire - Thx man, you were really helpful. Provide solid veteran big man play. Hopefully he returns for the min.

Josh McRoberts - Man this is not the team for you. Hopefully we can move him. Thanks for the hard foul on Biyombo.

Gerald Green - Your play was the exact opposite of mostly everyone, great the early first half and the second half you belong in china.
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Post#48 » by HIF » Sun May 22, 2016 10:07 am

If Goran and JJ don't improve their defense I don't WANT them back.

When the 2 of them were on court together it was a nightmare.
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Post#49 » by 3ballbomber » Thu May 26, 2016 12:12 pm

My final thoughts on the season is that the officiating did a great job making us look worse than what we were. I think they did their job well in that aspect. Referees & Spo did a marvelous job at botching the season.

What the refs did for us in the 2nd round was a doozy. Raptors? Bizwack? really? JOKE!

Let's sign some weapons and murder the league next season.
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Post#50 » by HeatFanDan » Thu May 26, 2016 8:47 pm

3ballbomber wrote:My final thoughts on the season is that the officiating did a great job making us look worse than what we were. I think they did their job well in that aspect. Referees & Spo did a marvelous job at botching the season.

What the refs did for us in the 2nd round was a doozy. Raptors? Bizwack? really? JOKE!

Let's sign some weapons and murder the league next season.

Welcome back. Thought you were making good on your vow to quit posting if the Rapturds beat us. :lol:
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Post#51 » by 3ballbomber » Thu May 26, 2016 10:11 pm

HeatFanDan wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:My final thoughts on the season is that the officiating did a great job making us look worse than what we were. I think they did their job well in that aspect. Referees & Spo did a marvelous job at botching the season.

What the refs did for us in the 2nd round was a doozy. Raptors? Bizwack? really? JOKE!

Let's sign some weapons and murder the league next season.

Welcome back. Thought you were making good on your vow to quit posting if the Rapturds beat us. :lol:


i honestly was & still am. if anybody wants to call me up on it do so & i'm ghost. I had alot of confidence on us heading to the ECF. i still stand by it. we were against the odds all season w/ these refs.
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Post#52 » by HeatFanDan » Fri May 27, 2016 12:32 am

3ballbomber wrote:
HeatFanDan wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:My final thoughts on the season is that the officiating did a great job making us look worse than what we were. I think they did their job well in that aspect. Referees & Spo did a marvelous job at botching the season.

What the refs did for us in the 2nd round was a doozy. Raptors? Bizwack? really? JOKE!

Let's sign some weapons and murder the league next season.

Welcome back. Thought you were making good on your vow to quit posting if the Rapturds beat us. :lol:


i honestly was & still am. if anybody wants to call me up on it do so & i'm ghost. I had alot of confidence on us heading to the ECF. i still stand by it. we were against the odds all season w/ these refs.

I feel you bro. Watching the Raptors' parade to the free throw line in game 7 was beyond frustrating. I was proud of the way we fought back time and time again in that series, and in the Hornets series, despite the b.s. officiating. Sometimes the better team doesn't win. Also,Wade's postseason was VERY encouraging. It sucks that we didn't get to see the LeBron-Wade showdown. I feel like Wade would have done some special things in that series, but we'll obviously never know.

Anyway, we'll be back. We've got some young talent that I'm excited about. Injuries were a killer this season. Hopefully the bball gods will smile on us next season and we can stay healthy. So go ahead and change your sig to Heat-Cavs ECF 2016-17. :D
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Post#53 » by 3ballbomber » Fri May 27, 2016 11:16 am

HeatFanDan wrote:
3ballbomber wrote:
HeatFanDan wrote:Welcome back. Thought you were making good on your vow to quit posting if the Rapturds beat us. :lol:


i honestly was & still am. if anybody wants to call me up on it do so & i'm ghost. I had alot of confidence on us heading to the ECF. i still stand by it. we were against the odds all season w/ these refs.

I feel you bro. Watching the Raptors' parade to the free throw line in game 7 was beyond frustrating. I was proud of the way we fought back time and time again in that series, and in the Hornets series, despite the b.s. officiating. Sometimes the better team doesn't win. Also,Wade's postseason was VERY encouraging. It sucks that we didn't get to see the LeBron-Wade showdown. I feel like Wade would have done some special things in that series, but we'll obviously never know.

Anyway, we'll be back. We've got some young talent that I'm excited about. Injuries were a killer this season. Hopefully the bball gods will smile on us next season and we can stay healthy. So go ahead and change your sig to Heat-Cavs ECF 2016-17. :D

Law of averages.....we WILL be healthy.

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