Mavs 2016 Offseason Discussion

[Darren]

I wouldn't be shocked to see Lance Stephenson come in. I hope that he doesn't but he could be seen as a reclaimation project.

Don't want Lawson anywhere near the team, he's a drunk bum.

After Lance's comments about Cuban, I would be shocked if he ended up here.

If we are managed to sign both Dwight Howard and Ryan Anderson, I am fine with Lance Stephenson and Dirk as a supersub. Of course, I am happy with Deron Williams as starter. As for Lawson, I am fine with him at veteran minimum. So is Tyshuan Prince. But I would try out Dirk-Ryan at 2 and 3 first for good reasons. The spacing would be exceptionally good. But in this case, I think we need a slashing PG to create spaces for shooters and Howard. Unfortunately, not many are available with a versatile skillsets. We may promote Barea as starter in this case. I am not a fan of his pick-n-roll defense, though. We may still pick a PG at 47th because of that. The Mavs is one of the few team that need a PG that can score at will in the paint.

C - Dwight Howard / Dwight Powell / Salah Merji
PF - Ryan Anderson / Dirk Nowitzki
SF - Justin Anderson / Tyshuan Prince
SG - Wes Matthews / Lance Stephenson
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Devin Harris

[Hadley]

I really hope Joakim Noah is our first option at Center. Cheaper and better than Dwight. And please no Ryan Anderson

[ejs1997]

Biyombo with another nice game today.

I know the Heat didnt have Whiteside but in the 4 games he started Biyombo averaged 11pts, 12.7 rebs, and 2.5 blks on 35min

Salary was only 2.8 this year and seeing he still has limitations I dont see him getting over 7mil which to me is a lot better deal then giving D12 20mil.

Only other center I would take over Biyombo would be Whiteside.

[Dirk]

Biyombo with another nice game today.

I know the Heat didnt have Whiteside but in the 4 games he started Biyombo averaged 11pts, 12.7 rebs, and 2.5 blks on 35min

Salary was only 2.8 this year and seeing he still has limitations I dont see him getting over 7mil which to me is a lot better deal then giving D12 20mil.

Only other center I would take over Biyombo would be Whiteside.

He was good during the regular season. The Raptors record when he played big minutes (over 28 minutes) was very good. He was surely in line to get over 7 million. Probably 10 million. You only have to look at what someone like Asik or Koufos received last season and then account for the jump in the salary cap. His playoff performance against Miami was good, although he was playing against midgets. I wouldn't be surprised if some team gave him 12+ million.

[Teffer10]

C - Dwight Howard / Dwight Powell / Salah Merji
PF - Ryan Anderson / Dirk Nowitzki
SF - Justin Anderson / Tyshuan Prince
SG - Wes Matthews / Lance Stephenson
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Devin Harris

I actually kinda like that Darren....especially the starting lineup.
I don't see Stephenson in that mix but could see someone like Kevin Martin being in that spot to bring some scoring off the bench. Prince would be a nice backup and mentor for J Anderson and would probably be a decent fit with Dirk.

Problem is that I see very little chance of signing Howard if Parsons isn't on the team. But Whiteside instead of Howard would be nice imo.

[jpengland]

Biyombo with another nice game today.

I know the Heat didnt have Whiteside but in the 4 games he started Biyombo averaged 11pts, 12.7 rebs, and 2.5 blks on 35min

Salary was only 2.8 this year and seeing he still has limitations I dont see him getting over 7mil which to me is a lot better deal then giving D12 20mil.

Only other center I would take over Biyombo would be Whiteside.

Good luck getting Biyombo under 15m.

[Darren]

Biyombo with another nice game today.

I know the Heat didnt have Whiteside but in the 4 games he started Biyombo averaged 11pts, 12.7 rebs, and 2.5 blks on 35min

Salary was only 2.8 this year and seeing he still has limitations I dont see him getting over 7mil which to me is a lot better deal then giving D12 20mil.

Only other center I would take over Biyombo would be Whiteside.

Good luck getting Biyombo under 15m.

Yes, I can see Biyombo as an option. But Whiteside is sideline during the period. He's playing against SF at C. But get fooled by those stats. Even so, I don't think we can get him for 7M per, though. Lakers is desperate at overpaying Ezeli. I am sure they will offer from to Biyombo.

[Darren]

C - Dwight Howard / Dwight Powell / Salah Merji
PF - Ryan Anderson / Dirk Nowitzki
SF - Justin Anderson / Tyshuan Prince
SG - Wes Matthews / Lance Stephenson
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Devin Harris

I actually kinda like that Darren....especially the starting lineup.
I don't see Stephenson in that mix but could see someone like Kevin Martin being in that spot to bring some scoring off the bench. Prince would be a nice backup and mentor for J Anderson and would probably be a decent fit with Dirk.

Problem is that I see very little chance of signing Howard if Parsons isn't on the team. But Whiteside instead of Howard would be nice imo.

I don't think so. His friendship with Howard is overrated. Ryan Anderson is easily the best frontcourt buddy in his most successful part of his short career. I am sure he'll consider playing with him again.

[daoneandonly]

Ryan Anderson would be a horrible pickup. He'll eb vastly overpaid and even at this point in their careers, he doesn't bring anything Dirk doesn't. There's very few things that's an easier No than signing Anderson.

[daoneandonly]

I wouldn't mind Bismack depending on what the contract was/is. Hell if we could do a S&T with Parsons I'd be all for it. Yes Bismack is still unproven and has many shortcomings, but he seems to have heart and is willing to fight for the ball and get roughed up in the process, I think we all know that's not the case with Parsons. Parsons seems like he'd be happy playing in T Dot and can be a stretch 4 for them or rotate the F positions with Carroll.

If we could sign Conley and sign Bismack (or even S&T if he commands too much), I'd be okay with trotting out this starting 5:

Conley
Matthews
Anderson
Nowitzki
Biyombo

I can see the offense maybe being problematic, though I think Conley has the ability to really score well when he needs to and Matthews should get healthier along with Anderson making strides.

[ejs1997]

Biyombo with another nice game today.

I know the Heat didnt have Whiteside but in the 4 games he started Biyombo averaged 11pts, 12.7 rebs, and 2.5 blks on 35min

Salary was only 2.8 this year and seeing he still has limitations I dont see him getting over 7mil which to me is a lot better deal then giving D12 20mil.

Only other center I would take over Biyombo would be Whiteside.

Good luck getting Biyombo under 15m.

Yes, I can see Biyombo as an option. But Whiteside is sideline during the period. He's playing against SF at C. But get fooled by those stats. Even so, I don't think we can get him for 7M per, though. Lakers is desperate at overpaying Ezeli. I am sure they will offer from to Biyombo.

This is true on the part vs the Heat, but when he filled in for JV during the the season in Jan.:

28 MPG
50% FG
64% FT (Thats solid compared to other options)
7 Pts
1.7 Blks
11.5 Rebs

Also he is only 6"9 so he wouldnt always have to be pulled vs smaller lineups because of how athletic he is.

1. Whiteside
2. Biyombo
3. Howard

[Darren]

Instead of signing Biyombo, I'd rather trade Matthews for Ibaka. That's a both-win situation for both teams. And then, we sign Lebron and Wade. Finally, we re-sign Dirk and DWill.

C - Serge Ibaka / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Lebron James / Justin Anderson
SG - Dwayne Wade / Devin Harris
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Gary Payton II

[Devassa]

Instead of signing Biyombo, I'd rather trade Matthews for Ibaka. That's a both-win situation for both teams. And then, we sign Lebron and Wade. Finally, we re-sign Dirk and DWill.

C - Serge Ibaka / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Lebron James / Justin Anderson
SG - Dwayne Wade / Devin Harris
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Gary Payton II

Wow... Just.... Wow

[Teffer10]

Instead of signing Biyombo, I'd rather trade Matthews for Ibaka. That's a both-win situation for both teams. And then, we sign Lebron and Wade. Finally, we re-sign Dirk and DWill.

C - Serge Ibaka / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Lebron James / Justin Anderson
SG - Dwayne Wade / Devin Harris
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Gary Payton II

Are you kidding Darren....McGee ahead of Mejri???

[daoneandonly]

Instead of signing Biyombo, I'd rather trade Matthews for Ibaka. That's a both-win situation for both teams. And then, we sign Lebron and Wade. Finally, we re-sign Dirk and DWill.

C - Serge Ibaka / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Lebron James / Justin Anderson
SG - Dwayne Wade / Devin Harris
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Gary Payton II

Are you kidding Darren....McGee ahead of Mejri???

Haha yup that's the one thing that really stuck out to me as well.

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

[The Sparest]

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

As far as guys the Mavs are likely to target, Brandon Jennings and Noah. If it was up to me, I would go after Tyler Johnson and Biyombo early and force the Heat and Raps to make hard decisions.

[Teffer10]

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

To me that would really depend on who is our SF.
If Parsons is resigned then we definitely need a shot-blocking/rebounding athletic beast in the middle and I really think Howard is the most/best achievable one for us. At PG I'd probably be okay with a more defense-oriented PG like Conley with Parsons too.

If Anderson or someone similar is our SF we would need more offense at PG and/or Center. Jennings would probably be our best bet at PG in that situation but not sure who would be a good fit at center unless we could trade for someone like Lopez from Brooklyn which I don't see happening.

[jpengland]

Instead of signing Biyombo, I'd rather trade Matthews for Ibaka. That's a both-win situation for both teams. And then, we sign Lebron and Wade. Finally, we re-sign Dirk and DWill.

C - Serge Ibaka / JaVale McGee / Salah Merji
PF - Dirk Nowitzki / Dwight Powell
SF - Lebron James / Justin Anderson
SG - Dwayne Wade / Devin Harris
PG - Deron Williams / Jose Barea / Gary Payton II

Are you kidding Darren....McGee ahead of Mejri???

Haha yup that's the one thing that really stuck out to me as well.

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

Howard and DWill is most likely, and I am happy with that to be honest. I'd prefer Jeremy Lin (I think Carlisle would work wonders with him), but I don't see it happening.

I'd rather go for proven guys if we are rolling the dice one more time and Howard does provide us the things that really held us back in the playoffs (rim protection, presence and rebounding).

We need to tweak the edges, too - a little more shooting and another big body would help, massively. But if we end up running with something like the below, I would fancy us to make the playoffs and push for second round. .


Howard/Mejri/McGee
Dirk/Dwight Powell/David Lee (he looked brilliant for us).
Parsons/Anderson
Matthews/A shooter of some kind/Harris
DWill/Barea/Whoever

[Dirk]

Are you kidding Darren....McGee ahead of Mejri???

Haha yup that's the one thing that really stuck out to me as well.

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

Howard and DWill is most likely, and I am happy with that to be honest. I'd prefer Jeremy Lin (I think Carlisle would work wonders with him), but I don't see it happening.

I'd rather go for proven guys if we are rolling the dice one more time and Howard does provide us the things that really held us back in the playoffs (rim protection, presence and rebounding).

We need to tweak the edges, too - a little more shooting and another big body would help, massively. But if we end up running with something like the below, I would fancy us to make the playoffs and push for second round. .


Howard/Mejri/McGee
Dirk/Dwight Powell/David Lee (he looked brilliant for us).
Parsons/Anderson
Matthews/A shooter of some kind/Harris
DWill/Barea/Whoever

There have been rumours about Dirk not wanting the Mavs to sign Howard.

[tweet]https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/725721373235007488[/tweet]

I wonder if it's true... it's not like the Mavs have a ton of options and can be picky. Howard may just be the best option available to roll the dice for the next couple of years, so just feels odd that this would be out there so far in advance of free agency.

[daoneandonly]

Are you kidding Darren....McGee ahead of Mejri???

Haha yup that's the one thing that really stuck out to me as well.

But curious, a question to everyone on our board, who would be your ideal attainable PG and C this offseason for the Mavs?

Howard and DWill is most likely, and I am happy with that to be honest. I'd prefer Jeremy Lin (I think Carlisle would work wonders with him), but I don't see it happening.

I'd rather go for proven guys if we are rolling the dice one more time and Howard does provide us the things that really held us back in the playoffs (rim protection, presence and rebounding).

We need to tweak the edges, too - a little more shooting and another big body would help, massively. But if we end up running with something like the below, I would fancy us to make the playoffs and push for second round. .


Howard/Mejri/McGee
Dirk/Dwight Powell/David Lee (he looked brilliant for us).
Parsons/Anderson
Matthews/A shooter of some kind/Harris
DWill/Barea/Whoever

I respectfully disagree, who of the Warriors, Spurs, Thunder, Clipps would that lineup surpass? D-WIll will only get older, slower, and worse, Parsons is a 4th option at best, and Howard is done.