2016-17 CFB SEASON / '17 NFL DRAFT

[I_am_1z]

Even without character issues, he's been a liability to the Rebels. Don't care if he's athletic and has a golden arm, he's not a QB.

Could you be more specific than "liability?"

He seems pretty raw, but I'm trying to see what you think he's missing.

QB instincts. The guy is another baseball player with no idea of the meaning of touch. He's not the type of running QB that fits the NFL (Lanky + downhill). He double clutches before majority of his throws. Leads to things like his passes getting timed up to get batted down. He already waits too long, but since his OL was monstrous it didn't matter. I don't think he has any responsibility out there than make the first read. Oh and he's really inaccurate.

[NinerSickness]

QB instincts. The guy is another baseball player with

Say no more. Baseball is the QB poison.

Bust.

[I_am_1z]

QB instincts. The guy is another baseball player with

Say no more. Baseball is the QB poison.

Bust.

I really lead you into that one, my mistake. I meant with the double clutch and the amount of gas he's bringing with every pass, it would seem as if he's more suited for baseball. He might have played baseball but in my Google search I can't come across anything to validate that.

[NinerSickness]

He double clutches before majority of his throws.

What do you mean by "double clutches?" Like a foot shift? A Crabtree-like hop step? Or do you mean a pump fake?

I've never seen what you're talking about one time, and you say he does it on the majority of his throws.

Is this what you're talking about?

[I_am_1z]

He double clutches before majority of his throws.

What do you mean by "double clutches?" Like a foot shift? A Crabtree-like hop step? Or do you mean a pump fake?

I've never seen what you're talking about one time, and you say he does it on the majority of his throws.

Is this what you're talking about?

http://draftbreakdown.com/video/chad-kelly-vs-alabama-2015/

I believe he does it in your GIF. Watch his throws that go to the right side of the field. He pats the ball with his left hand, before throwing it.

[NinerSickness]

I believe he does it in your GIF. Watch his throws that go to the right side of the field. He pats the ball with his left hand, before throwing it.

I watched a lot of his plays & watches specifically for that. I wouldn't say he does it even close to "most" of the time. He does it sometimes. But I wouldn't really say it slows his release down. He's not exactly Connor Cook in the release department, but it's not slow.

He does have a lot of things he'd need to clean up though. He's pretty raw for a guy going into his senior season (probably because he messed up & didn't get playing time earlier on in school). He's also a little jumpy.

However, he does have those "wow" moments that give a Chad Kelly fan hope. Not sure what to expect from him at this point. If I had to be totally realistic, I think he'll end up being somewhere between a Kyle Boller and a Matt Stafford. Possibly better, but I think that's a really, really long shot.

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Jalen Tabor - DB - Gators

Rivals recruiting director Mike Farrell noted that Florida junior CB Jalen Tabor is "not a natural burner, but his instincts are off the charts."

"[Tabor]’s become a good tackler near the line of scrimmage," Farrell wrote, adding that "[h]e’s a longer Tyrann Mathieu, and that’s impressive company." Last season, the 6-foot-1, 195-pounder recorded 40 tackles (4.0 for loss), a sack and four interceptions. He returned two of those interceptions for touchdowns. ESPN's Edward Aschoff predicted in January that Tabor will win the Jim Thorpe Award -- given to the nation's best defensive back -- this coming season.
Source: Rivals

May 15 - 8:02 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Myles Garrett - DL - Aggies

Texas A&M juniojr edge rusher Myles Garrett enters his junior season with 26 career sacks.

NFL Media draft analyst Chad Reuter pegs him as the fifth-best player in college football. "His burst, flexibility, length and acceleration make him a tough ask for any left tackle," Reuter wrote. ESPN's Mel Kiper has Garrett atop his first Big Board.
Source: NFL.com

May 17 - 5:09 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

I really like this kid. I urge you guys to please keep a close eye on him next season.

Marquis Haynes - DL - Rebels

ESPN's Mel Kiper ranks Ole Miss junior edge rusher Marquis Haynes No. 23 overall.

"He can get to the passer, but the question is whether he can add some size to that 6-foot-3 frame so that he can hold up better against blockers when he's not winning with quickness," Kiper wrote. Haynes has accrued 17.5 sacks across his first two seasons. In addition to bulk, Haynes' technique could use some work. The tools are exceptional.
Source: ESPN.com

May 17 - 4:22 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

He just threw away his chances of being drafted within the top 5 picks:

Cameron Robinson - T - Crimson Tide

Alabama junior T Cam Robinson was arrested early Tuesday morning on possession and weapons charges, including one felony charge.

The felony charge is for illegal possession of a stolen firearm and the other charges consist of illegal carrying of a weapon and misdemeanor possession of marijuana. Robinson and teammate Laurence Hootie Jones were booked at 3:37 a.m. in Ouachita Parish, Louisiana, and the pair is from Monroe, Louisiana. Robinson is viewed as one of the top offensive linemen in the country and is a longtime starter for the Crimson Tide, even playing through injury last season. Per beat writer Michael Casagrande, the arrest occurred in a parking lot after the policeman could smell marijuana. Alabama football players are currently on a three week break from school before summer classes begin.
Source: Barrett Sallee on Twitter

May 17 - 9:15 AM


Cameron Robinson - T - Crimson Tide

Alabama HC Nick Saban indicated that the program is in the process of investigating the arrest of junior T Cam Robinson.

"We are aware of the situation involving Hootie Jones and Cam Robinson and are in the process of gathering facts to determine what internal action needs to be taken," Saban said in a threadbare statement. Robinson and Jones were arrested at a West Monroe, Louisiana, park early Tuesday morning. They are facing charges for marijuana possession and possession of a handgun in the presence of drugs. Robinson -- perhaps the top tackle prospect in the country -- has also been charged with felony possession of a stolen firearm. He was released on bond following his arrest.
Source: al.com

May 17 - 1:14 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Cameron Sutton - DB - Volunteers

Tennessee senior CB Cameron Sutton regressed from a +13.4 PFF grade (No. 1 in the 2017 class) in 2014 to a +2.8 (No. 40) last year.

The drop had to do with his coverage work in particular. Sutton posted three interceptions and ten pass defenses during a superb 2014, finishing with an NFL passer rating against of 51.6. By no means was he bad last year, but Sutton had only one interception and four passes defensed and surrendered a higher completion percentage (52.5).
Source: Pro Football Focus

May 16 - 10:28 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

O.J. Howard - TE - Crimson Tide

Alabama senior TE O.J. Howard ran a 4.65 forty during Alabama's spring testing.

He added a 365-pound clean, 425-pound bench, 500-pound squat and 9-foot-11 broad jump. All marks were exceptional, with the clean tied for best on the Tide and the bench tied for best in the non-linemen category.
Source: AL.com

May 16 - 9:54 PM

[I_am_1z]

O.J. Howard - TE - Crimson Tide

Alabama senior TE O.J. Howard ran a 4.65 forty during Alabama's spring testing.

He added a 365-pound clean, 425-pound bench, 500-pound squat and 9-foot-11 broad jump. All marks were exceptional, with the clean tied for best on the Tide and the bench tied for best in the non-linemen category.
Source: AL.com

May 16 - 9:54 PM

Now go back to the first page and compare this to Saquon Barkley (SQBK)

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

O.J. Howard - TE - Crimson Tide

Alabama senior TE O.J. Howard ran a 4.65 forty during Alabama's spring testing.

He added a 365-pound clean, 425-pound bench, 500-pound squat and 9-foot-11 broad jump. All marks were exceptional, with the clean tied for best on the Tide and the bench tied for best in the non-linemen category.
Source: AL.com

May 16 - 9:54 PM

Now go back to the first page and compare this to Saquon Barkley (SQBK)

Hey 1z, when it comes to Saquon you lost all credibility when you stated that he was the best RB in the nation. It seems to me and anyone for that matter that you are infatuated with players from Penn State, you allow the love that you have for the program to cloud your judgement. I enjoy reading a lot of your player analyst on a given prospect (DBs, and WRs in particular) except for when it comes to players from Penn State (got take your assessments with a grain of salt). Also, you get way over the top when you evaluate the QB position as well. I still can't believe that you said that Saquan is the best RB in America--if that wasn't a homerish statement to make I don't know what is?!

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Saquon Barkley - RB - Nittany Lions

ESPN's Mitch Sherman wrote that Penn State sophomore RB Saquon Barkley "could vault into the [Heisman] conversation with a big September."

"At 5-foot-11 and 220 pounds, he’s built to endure punishment," Sherman wrote. "And who doesn’t appreciate a physical back in the Penn State white and blue? The opportunity for statement performances arrive early at rival Pitt and in the league opener at Michigan." HC James Franklin said earlier this offseason that he "[doesn't] know if [he's] seen someone like Saquon." The bruiser rushed for 1,076 yards and seen touchdowns last season. For the time being, though, Barkley is not viewed as a legit Heisman contender by Vegas. "With the exception of Ohio State quarterback J.T. Barrett, no player in the Big Ten is on the radar in early Heisman handicapping," according to Sherman.
Source: ESPN.com

May 18 - 3:01 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Soso Jamabo - RB - Bruins

UCLA sophomore RB Soso Jamabo is the favorite to replace Paul Perkins, according to the Orange County Register.

Jamabo averaged six yards per carry and accrued 461 yards and four touchdowns last year in a part-time role behind star RB Paul Perkins. He's now the featured back in in new OC Kennedy Polamalu's downhill power running scheme. "Jamabo, who never used a fullback in his spread-based high school system, has been especially impressive, despite not being known for his work between the tackles," Ryan Kartje of the Orange County Register wrote. The Bruins will spell Jamabo with Nate Starks and Bolu Olorunfunmi.
Source: Orange County Register

May 18 - 4:23 PM

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Josh Rosen - QB - Bruins

ESPN's Ted Miller wrote that with significant improvement, UCLA sophomore QB Josh Rosen "could challenge Clemson's Deshaun Watson as the best quarterback in the country, which would make him a default Heisman candidate."

Expect to hear plenty of these kinds of proclamations throughout the preseason as the hype dragon clears its throat for the 2016 campaign. "The biggest question for Rosen, in fact, isn't himself, or even the new, pro-style offense that has been installed to take advantage of his skills," Miller wrote. "It's the Bruins void at receiver, as they lose most of their top performers from 2015." Should Rosen be able to make up for the skill-position deficits around him, though, he could not only be contending for a Heisman over the next two years, but also readying himself for a top-5 selection in the draft. He won't be draft eligible until after the 2017 season, though, so that talk should probably be placed on the back-burner while we give ourselves over to rampant Heisman speculation.
Source: ESPN.com

May 18 - 4:00 PM

[I_am_1z]

O.J. Howard - TE - Crimson Tide

Alabama senior TE O.J. Howard ran a 4.65 forty during Alabama's spring testing.

He added a 365-pound clean, 425-pound bench, 500-pound squat and 9-foot-11 broad jump. All marks were exceptional, with the clean tied for best on the Tide and the bench tied for best in the non-linemen category.
Source: AL.com

May 16 - 9:54 PM

Now go back to the first page and compare this to Saquon Barkley (SQBK)

Hey 1z, when it comes to Saquon you lost all credibility when you stated that he was the best RB in the nation. It seems to me and anyone for that matter that you are infatuated with players from Penn State, you allow the love that you have for the program to cloud your judgement. I enjoy reading a lot of your player analyst on a given prospect (DBs, and WRs in particular) except for when it comes to players from Penn State (got take your assessments with a grain of salt). Also, you get way over the top when you evaluate the QB position as well. I still can't believe that you said that Saquan is the best RB in America--if that wasn't a homerish statement to make I don't know what is?!

That was Aaron Maybin and Andrew Quarless (who's sort of a starter) are the only two guys I was really high on and out right wrong from PSU.

[NinerSickness]

Since getting Myles Garrett is probably a pipe dream, Charles Harris is quickly becoming my 2nd-favourite player in this draft.

He seems to have it all as a pass rusher. Hustle, strength speed... and he has one of the nastiest spin moves you'll ever see. Check out how he spins right out of the block from 49ers' Tackle (left tackle here) John Theus:

[Bingo_AlphaMan]

Davis Webb - QB - Golden Bears

Texas Tech graduate QB Davis Webb spurned Colorado and transferred to California.

Upon his winter graduation from Texas Tech, where he had once lost his starting job to Pat Mahomes, Webb pledged his final season of eligibility to Mike MacIntyre's Buffaloes. Rumors of a re-opened process started in the month that followed Webb's January announcement. On Wednesday, Bears HC Sonny Dykes officially flipped Webb to complete the stunning eleventh-hour coup. The 6-foot-5, 220-pound Webb posted a 46/22 career TD/INT rate for the Red Raiders. In 2013, former HC Kliff Kingsbury said Webb had top-five NFL Draft talent due to his size, arm and mind. "He has a chance to be very special," Kingsbury said. Webb isn't guaranteed Jared Goff's old gig, but he should be considered the prohibitive favorite heading into the summer.
Source: Adam Munsterteiger on Twitter

May 18 - 4:45 PM