Bryan Colangelo recap from 97.5 interview

[sixers23]

reading between the lines seems he def favors simmons and is thinking about moving okafor

[sixers23]

Bryan Colangelo being so set on his pick, this early in the game, makes me very concerned about his capability as our GM. I've always leaned toward Ingram in this debate, but if Simmons was able to show something special in his interview and workout, I wouldn't be opposed to picking him. However, it seems that our GM has tunnel vision on a significant decision for our franchise. Put both men through the ringer and then make a final choice based on what you saw.

if you dont have a preference between 2 guys at this point than you just arent watching enough. a workout shouldnt ever be a major factor

[Unbreakable99]

Bryan Colangelo being so set on his pick, this early in the game, makes me very concerned about his capability as our GM. I've always leaned toward Ingram in this debate, but if Simmons was able to show something special in his interview and workout, I wouldn't be opposed to picking him. However, it seems that our GM has tunnel vision on a significant decision for our franchise. Put both men through the ringer and then make a final choice based on what you saw.

if you dont have a preference between 2 guys at this point than you just arent watching enough. a workout shouldnt ever be a major factor

For real. He should have a preference. Last year Minnesota had a preference for Towns initially and drafted him. Simmons is the best prospect so he should be his top choice at this time.

[Ericb5]

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

Depends on what you mean by translate. Ingram is plug and play. There hasn't been a system invented where you can't pencil him into. Simmons, is the system. Positions 1-3 exist to compliment him (if he plays sf its positions 1,2,4 then). I think Ingram translates easier but Simmons' game allows you to play "3 & D" point guards/combo guards and it puts power forwards in the most awkward position of defending the offensive initiator.

I think Ingram fits more systems but when we are talking about your #1-2 options you bend the team around them.

Well said. "Simmons is the system"

I think a lot of people are being intoxicated by the fact that Ingram is plug and play into our lineup and so clearly provides what we have been lacking.

The problem is that he isn't a superstar. He just isn't.

Fit issues go away when you make trades. We have very readable pieces. You put Simmons in his best position, whatever that may be, and then move around he other pieces.

I'm not convinced yet that he has to guard the 4. If he can guard the 3 then maybe it works with Okafor. If he DOES have to guard the 4 to be most effective, and Embiid is healthy then Okafor is a too good of a player to not play 35 minutes a night, and we would be better served by trading for complimentary pieces.

[CoreyGallagher]

BC seems to be ogling Simmons in his interviews, but then Brown (and even BC, actually) iterate positionally balancing the team. I really have no idea what we're going to do.

[freshie2]

Glad the Giannis comparison was made...he has length, Simmons already has more skill. The better comparison is probably to ingram.

Agree that one of the bigs may be moved to get Murray or Dunn. Phoenix is interesting, with Knight and Chandler filling veteran roles. At 13, I'd I'd go upside it would be Baldwin. That would leave the roster with a big hole at SG....Batum is more a SF, but that's where Beal or Fournier become rich. Exciting times...thanks to hinkie, and praying BC makes the right moves.

[Embiid P]

BC seems to be ogling Simmons in his interviews, but then Brown (and even BC, actually) iterate positionally balancing the team. I really have no idea what we're going to do.

Just hope it isn't another "Bargnani over Aldridge" or "Ross over Drummond" type of mistake by BC.

[Mik317]

we won 10 games. No one should be safe. If they feel like Simmons is the better prospect...then he is the choice. Ingram's shooting makes him an easier fit but that should not be the only reason for taking him.

also Simmons would not be the fit issue. Even if all he can play is PF...fun fact...we don't have any of those either so we good.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

Depends on what you mean by translate. Ingram is plug and play. There hasn't been a system invented where you can't pencil him into. Simmons, is the system. Positions 1-3 exist to compliment him (if he plays sf its positions 1,2,4 then). I think Ingram translates easier but Simmons' game allows you to play "3 & D" point guards/combo guards and it puts power forwards in the most awkward position of defending the offensive initiator.

I think Ingram fits more systems but when we are talking about your #1-2 options you bend the team around them.

Well said. "Simmons is the system"

I think a lot of people are being intoxicated by the fact that Ingram is plug and play into our lineup and so clearly provides what we have been lacking.

The problem is that he isn't a superstar. He just isn't.

Fit issues go away when you make trades. We have very readable pieces. You put Simmons in his best position, whatever that may be, and then move around he other pieces.

I'm not convinced yet that he has to guard the 4. If he can guard the 3 then maybe it works with Okafor. If he DOES have to guard the 4 to be most effective, and Embiid is healthy then Okafor is a too good of a player to not play 35 minutes a night, and we would be better served by trading for complimentary pieces.

You don't know that. Frankly, I don't see super star in either of them.

I don't care about plug and play, I'd take Ingram because I think he will be the superior NBA player and his strengths are a more important asset to a team than Simmons', which is scoring potential.

Ingram can shoot, he can drive, he has a back to the basket game, he has a step back jumper, pull up jumper, fadeaway jumper, he is a better defender, he's lengthy.

I don't get this narrative than Simmons has so much more potential. I think it's just kinda recycled by people without actually breaking the players down and accepted as truth. I don't see it that way, personally.

[Skates]

If Simmons is the choice, and I strongly believe he will be, then Dunn makes zero sense on this team. A ball dominant passer who can't shoot is the opposite of the kind of pg you match up with Saric and Simmons. A shooting oh who can play off the ball as much as on makes far more sense.

And yes, I think Okafor is a goner, but I think that was the case no matter who we drafted. Send him out west and get a nice package in return.

[PhilasFinest]

BC seems to be ogling Simmons in his interviews, but then Brown (and even BC, actually) iterate positionally balancing the team. I really have no idea what we're going to do.

You can balance the team either way via trade(s) and FA. Could just be them hinting that moves and decisions are bound to be made to create a more balanced roster.

[PhillySixers22]

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

Depends on what you mean by translate. Ingram is plug and play. There hasn't been a system invented where you can't pencil him into. Simmons, is the system. Positions 1-3 exist to compliment him (if he plays sf its positions 1,2,4 then). I think Ingram translates easier but Simmons' game allows you to play "3 & D" point guards/combo guards and it puts power forwards in the most awkward position of defending the offensive initiator.

I think Ingram fits more systems but when we are talking about your #1-2 options you bend the team around them.

This exactly. We should be looking for the best possible talent and no to what best fits what we have. One trade and one FA signing can correct any perceived fit issue that comes with taking Simmons and with Simmons comes our creator/distributor. Obviously those who don't see Simmons as an elite talent go Ingram, but I for one see a franchise talent ready to step into the role of primary initiater from day one.

[XtremeDunkz]

If we could make a move to get 4 and draft Murray along with Simmons..that would be beautiful.

[PhilasFinest]

If Simmons is the choice, and I strongly believe he will be, then Dunn makes zero sense on this team. A ball dominant passer who can't shoot is the opposite of the kind of pg you match up with Saric and Simmons. A shooting oh who can play off the ball as much as on makes far more sense.

And yes, I think Okafor is a goner, but I think that was the case no matter who we drafted. Send him out west and get a nice package in return.

Agreed.

Dunn would make sense with Ingram but Simmons is essentially a PG. You likely want someone who can shoot an play off-ball in more of a combo guard role.

[Skates]

If Simmons is the choice, and I strongly believe he will be, then Dunn makes zero sense on this team. A ball dominant passer who can't shoot is the opposite of the kind of pg you match up with Saric and Simmons. A shooting oh who can play off the ball as much as on makes far more sense.

And yes, I think Okafor is a goner, but I think that was the case no matter who we drafted. Send him out west and get a nice package in return.

Agreed.

Dunn would make sense with Ingram but Simmons is essentially a PG. You likely want someone who can shoot an play off-ball in more of a combo guard role.

Luckily most of the pg's in this draft are combo guards, so there are some nice fits there, plus some nice three and defense options as well. Mostly a role player draft after the big 2.

[phiphan]

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using the word "transcendent" is a pretty f'ing strong tell.

[LongLiveHinkie]

I think stats for collegiate players are typically overrated. It depends on so many factors that don't necessarily translate to the NBA. I'm not saying he won't be special, I just personally think his game translates not as well to the NBA compared to Ingram.

Depends on what you mean by translate. Ingram is plug and play. There hasn't been a system invented where you can't pencil him into. Simmons, is the system. Positions 1-3 exist to compliment him (if he plays sf its positions 1,2,4 then). I think Ingram translates easier but Simmons' game allows you to play "3 & D" point guards/combo guards and it puts power forwards in the most awkward position of defending the offensive initiator.

I think Ingram fits more systems but when we are talking about your #1-2 options you bend the team around them.

This exactly. We should be looking for the best possible talent and no to what best fits what we have. One trade and one FA signing can correct any perceived fit issue that comes with taking Simmons and with Simmons comes our creator/distributor. Obviously those who don't see Simmons as an elite talent go Ingram, but I for one see a franchise talent ready to step into the role of primary initiater from day one.

I generally don't find facilitators all that important. I mean, they are important, but what I mean is you can find facilitators much easier than big-time scorers. Hell, Ish Smith is a facilitator. He can drive, and set up his teammates. He's not a good one, but he is one. The Sixers with their cap room can sign a facilitator and put one at PG, or draft one with one of their other first rounders. I don't see how they are going to score though. Who is going to go off for 30 on this team when they need a big scoring night against tough teams? Who is going to scare defenses and command double teams? We have no wing players of that level.

I admire the Spurs maybe more than any NBA team in history, but building like them is the absolute worst way to build. Building a team that shares the ball. It's so rare. The only reason it worked for the Spurs is because they have the best coach ever, and 3 HOFers. Typically teams like that don't win titles. Teams with at least 2 big-time scorers do. I just don't see Simmons as a big-time NBA scorer, and I think the asset of being a facilitator is highly overrated.

[Easymoney]

Bryan Colangelo being so set on his pick, this early in the game, makes me very concerned about his capability as our GM. I've always leaned toward Ingram in this debate, but if Simmons was able to show something special in his interview and workout, I wouldn't be opposed to picking him. However, it seems that our GM has tunnel vision on a significant decision for our franchise. Put both men through the ringer and then make a final choice based on what you saw.

if you dont have a preference between 2 guys at this point than you just arent watching enough. a workout shouldnt ever be a major factor

That doesn't make any sense. You collect data until the very end, then make the best decision. If we had a workout with Ingram and he showed tremendous improvement, I wouldn't write off taking him. At the same time, if Simmons has a superior workout that may solidify his spot at #1. It's very tempting to become intoxicated by our good fortune and make lazy choices as a result. We need to approach this draft with the discipline of an open mind.

In terms of trading Jah for picks, we also need to consider that we will have great picks in the coming years which are potentially deeper drafts.

[PhilasFinest]

Brett Brown interview on the Herd:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t72UXNWyO6s

Says he doesn't think Simmons' shot is broken.Can be tweaked, doesn't need to be totally rebuilt.
Has some hints of Magic Johnson and Young LeBron in him.

[plead.5th]

I hate hearing, it's too early to have the selection made. These NBA GM's have seen probably every one of these 2 guys college games and seen them in person as much as one would need to. I'm sure due diligence has been done all year long.