2016 draft thread: Part 2

[southern wolf]

It'll be interesting to see what happens if Boston draft Bender, I don't think Phoenix need yet another backcourt guy so they could end up taking Brown. I'd still take Buddy myself but I do like Murray a bit as well.

Boston doesn't really need another backcourt guy either and if they take Brown you'd think Phoenix would take Bender. I think Thibs will be choosing between Hield/Murray/Dunn.

[jpatrick]

Brown was pretty horrific down the stretch and then according to Ford, was really bad during his combine interviews. I know DX still has him high, but I just don't see him going top six.

[bwright213]

Furkan Korkmaz has an excellent name, is 18 years old, stands 203 cm, 6'8" without shoes. Shoots 44% on threes... very impressive eyebrows, and his videos have awesome 80's style Jan Hammer music. Obviously born to ball.

Maybe we should trade down for Furkan and Domantas Sabonis???

I'm sold

[bwright213]

It'll be interesting to see what happens if Boston draft Bender, I don't think Phoenix need yet another backcourt guy so they could end up taking Brown. I'd still take Buddy myself but I do like Murray a bit as well.

Boston's pick will be very interesting, if they go Bender where do the Sun's go? I can't imagine them being all that interested in Buddy, Dunn or Murray. I would have to guess they would probably go Jaylen Brown as I don't see another big worth the reach. Of course were still a ways out and one of the bigs could blow them away in workouts. Anyways Boston is where the intrigue definitely starts.

[Worm Guts]

Brown was pretty horrific down the stretch and then according to Ford, was really bad during his combine interviews. I know DX still has him high, but I just don't see him going top six.

After the top 3-4, there aren't a ton of players that physically look like top picks, and of the players that do, Brown may have been the most productive. And unlike Dunn, he's not 22. As far as interviews go, that may be an issue but it's also the opposite of his reputation.
There's reasons for him to fall, but there's also reasons for him to rise. I wouldn't be that surprised if he goes higher than expected.

[Grits n Gravy]

I'm still not ruling out Luwawu for Thibs. As others have mentioned that postional flexibility is so important - He has that massive advantage of Buddy in that he can play the 2-3 and share the court with either Zach or Wiggy where as Buddy and Zach seem almost exclusive 2 guards or at least are best suited there. Draftexpress has him a 6'7 with a 7' wingspan(not sure where those measurements have come from) and his game and physcial tools screams Thibs kind of guy. Maybe it's a trade back though I agree that seems unlikely but I won't be upset if Thibs feels he's the guy for us, in fact I kind of hope that's the case.

[NewWolvesOrder]

yes, Luwawu could be Paul George of this draft. Physical tools are there.

[minimus]

yes, Luwawu could be Paul George of this draft. Physical tools are there.

Luwawu is 6-7 while PG13 is legit 6-9. So PG is very special player. Luwawu is more Sefolosha with better offensive game. I'd trade #5 for DEN #7 and #15, if it gives us Hield and Luwawu.

KAT/Dieng/Pek
Dieng/Bjelica/KG
Wiggins/Bazz/Luwawu
LaVine/Hield/Luwawu
Rubio/Jones/LaVine

[NewWolvesOrder]

yes, Luwawu could be Paul George of this draft. Physical tools are there.

Luwawu is 6-7 while PG13 is legit 6-9. So PG is very special player. Luwawu is more Sefolosha with better offensive game. I'd trade #5 for DEN #7 and #15, if it gives us Hield and Luwawu.

KAT/Dieng/Pek
Dieng/Bjelica/KG
Wiggins/Bazz/Luwawu
LaVine/Hield/Luwawu
Rubio/Jones/LaVine

Luwawu wasn't measured by NBA so we don't have his numbers but he claims to be 6'7 barefoot which is legit 6'8 by NBA standards. If his 7ft wingspan is true than I doubt there's a meaningful length difference between him and PG.
I don't share your skepticism.

[No-Man]

ICYAI: After a few months of reading, checking more tape and finally with a proper order and closer to a definitive list, I have a new Mock, this will still change until the 22nd of June, especially since we dont have the official list just yet.

I have made my guesses with a few guys, mainly kicking them back to school, I struggled especially with Josh Hart, Troy Williams, Malik Newman and Isaia Cordinier, among internationals.

There's also some guys that could've found their way in, but didnt, my last cuts were, Sheldon McClellan, Prince Ibeh, Jarrod Uthoff, Isaiah Cousins, Anthony Barber, Daniel Hamilton and Rasheed Sulaimon among others.

Like almost always, my Mocks reflect what I'd do if I were the GM of every team, I dont care about predictions, at all, my board has changed some, but also in my last Mock few months back I did predictor a bit+my board, so the result now is different.

http://basketball.realgm.com/nba/draft/draft_simulator/view/196203/

[Killboard]

yes, Luwawu could be Paul George of this draft. Physical tools are there.

Luwawu is 6-7 while PG13 is legit 6-9. So PG is very special player. Luwawu is more Sefolosha with better offensive game. I'd trade #5 for DEN #7 and #15, if it gives us Hield and Luwawu.

KAT/Dieng/Pek
Dieng/Bjelica/KG
Wiggins/Bazz/Luwawu
LaVine/Hield/Luwawu
Rubio/Jones/LaVine

Luwawu wasn't measured by NBA so we don't have his numbers but he claims to be 6'7 barefoot which is legit 6'8 by NBA standards. If his 7ft wingspan is true than I doubt there's a meaningful length difference between him and PG.
I don't share your skepticism.

Luwawu is a intriguing prospect, mostly cause few of us could watch full games against decent competition. If I must to say something about what I found in youtube, he is good shooter, but not a very good defender. He has the potential to be one, but is not there yet and maybe never be.

http://www.libertyballers.com/2016/3/22/11273530/getting-to-know-timothe-luwawu-international-man-of-mystery

[Klomp]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjAbcHdjwUs[/youtube]

[Devilzsidewalk]

DX mock looks different. Ellenson/Luwawu dropped, Valentine/Skal/T Prince/D Davis going up. Sabonis still outside the lotto.

I'd trade our pick for Valentine and Sabonis all day.

[Dleavitt24]

If we had a dleague team this coming year I would be okay trading back with say Denver and picking up a project like skal. If he could be like a more offensive Noel that would be wicked. NBA should and I think is headed in a direction like hockey is were they sign players to entery level contracts, play them in a minor league system (dleague) and bring them up when needed/ready. The talent is so broad and kids are coming in not ready to contribute. It would lower bust factor and allow these kids to get paid as they develop in a professional setting. In the case of the wolves this year it would have help to pick a player that doesn't need to play right away and they could sign vets to help them win now. Toronto raptors gone this direction more than any team. They are so close there player play a dleague game in the afternoon and get called up to be with the main team for evening games so they still feel like they are apart of the bigger picture.

[john2jer]

Hield is 6'3" barefoot but doesn't have the handle to run an offense. He's basically Ben Gordon

He's almost three inches taller than Gordon. 6'1" vs. 6'3.75"

I thought Gordon was a little taller than that. I could have found a better example. Hield is still a point sized shooting guard that's probably going to need to be covered up on defense. If it looked like he could also back up Rubio, I'd be much higher on him.

Worst rule change the NBA ever made is when they outlawed playing in shoes.

[john2jer]

I'm very high on the Jamal Murray train.

Jamal Murray scored 20ppg on great percentages as a freshman.

There have been 22 seasons in NCAA History scoring 20ppg, taking more than 7.5 3s a game, hitting on better than 40% of 3s and better than 45% from the field. Only 2 were freshman. Steph Curry is the only one who put up a better season than Jamal Murray as a freshman. Murray was 12th no matter the class.

Imagine if he stayed through his senior year.

Other guys I like are Skal Labissiere, Marquese Chriss, Deyonta Davis, Denzel Valentine, Timothe Luwawu, Furkan Korkmaz, Wade Baldwin, and Ben Bentil. not necessarily that order.

[gopher wolf]

I'm very high on the Jamal Murray train.

Jamal Murray scored 20ppg on great percentages as a freshman.

There have been 22 seasons in NCAA History scoring 20ppg, taking more than 7.5 3s a game, hitting on better than 40% of 3s and better than 45% from the field. Only 2 were freshman. Steph Curry is the only one who put up a better season than Jamal Murray as a freshman. Murray was 12th no matter the class.

Imagine if he stayed through his senior year.

Other guys I like are Skal Labissiere, Marquese Chriss, Deyonta Davis, Denzel Valentine, Timothe Luwawu, Furkan Korkmaz, Wade Baldwin, and Ben Bentil. not necessarily that order.

And Murray did it against better competition in the SEC.

[Klomp]

Worst rule change the NBA ever made is when they outlawed playing in shoes.

I think you're smart enough to know why the no-shoes measurement is important. It's about standardizing heights.

[GopherIt!]

DX mock looks different. Ellenson/Luwawu dropped, Valentine/Skal/T Prince/D Davis going up. Sabonis still outside the lotto.

I'd trade our pick for Valentine and Sabonis all day.

I like that a lot. Sabonis is going to be a beast. He and Towns would give us an elite rebounding duo.

I'm a fan of B Johnson, Diallo and Bentil in the 20-30 range too, but Sabonis is my preferred target at PF.

Skal and Davis have bust written all over them.

[GopherIt!]

I'm very high on the Jamal Murray train.

Jamal Murray scored 20ppg on great percentages as a freshman.

There have been 22 seasons in NCAA History scoring 20ppg, taking more than 7.5 3s a game, hitting on better than 40% of 3s and better than 45% from the field. Only 2 were freshman. Steph Curry is the only one who put up a better season than Jamal Murray as a freshman. Murray was 12th no matter the class.

Imagine if he stayed through his senior year.

If we could get those guys on the court at the same time, a Murray/LaVine duo would give us some serious firepower from outside.