FA Targets High IQ only

Post #21 » by **Mr. E** » Wed May 18, 2016 4:19 pm

OrlandoTill wrote:
Mr. E wrote:Does Ryan Anderson have a rep as a high IQ player? Would he be a possibility to play SF, and not PF?

He knows his spots/how to get boards as a stretch 4. Would be near death at the 3 though and injuries are a concern.

Thanks! I was concerned about his mobility for the 3 and that was before you reminded me of the injury concern. So he is set as a stretch 4.

If that's the case then he would not be a player I would want the Rockets to target. I'd rather see them go after Horford or Teletovic while retaining Motie.

Post #22 » by **TMU** » Wed May 18, 2016 6:26 pm

Mr. E wrote:
OrlandoTill wrote:
Mr. E wrote:Does Ryan Anderson have a rep as a high IQ player? Would he be a possibility to play SF, and not PF?

He knows his spots/how to get boards as a stretch 4. Would be near death at the 3 though and injuries are a concern.

Thanks! I was concerned about his mobility for the 3 and that was before you reminded me of the injury concern. So he is set as a stretch 4.

If that's the case then he would not be a player I would want the Rockets to target. I'd rather see them go after Horford or Teletovic while retaining Motie.

Yeah, Teletovic would be a great fit with this team.

K_chile22 · Post #23 » by **K_chile22** » Wed May 18, 2016 7:18 pm

TMU wrote:Come on man, Batum is a fringe role player. Let the Knicks overpay.

No. Batum is REALLY good and would be an awesome fit with Harden.

Also, keeping it in Charolette I'd rather have Marvin Williams over Ryan Anderson. Not as good offensively but still a 40% three point shooter on tons of attempts. WAY better defender and a better rebounder

Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

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Post #24 » by **Mr. E** » Wed May 18, 2016 7:27 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

texasholdem · Post #25 » by **texasholdem** » Wed May 18, 2016 7:50 pm

Mr. E wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

I'm sure the Lin only fans have chilled out by now. Maybe the new Chinese kid in the draft will deflect some attention from him too.

K_chile22 · Post #26 » by **K_chile22** » Wed May 18, 2016 7:50 pm

Mr. E wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

Eh, he was good with us he just made some BRUTAL mistakes in the playoffs. And it would mean Lin fans returning calling for Bev to be benched and accusing our coach of being racist

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texasholdem · Post #27 » by **texasholdem** » Thu May 19, 2016 6:51 am

K_chile22 wrote:
Mr. E wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

Eh, he was good with us he just made some BRUTAL mistakes in the playoffs. And it would mean Lin fans returning calling for Bev to be benched and accusing our coach of being racist

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they were right about Beverley

Post #28 » by **TMU** » Thu May 19, 2016 1:51 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
TMU wrote:Come on man, Batum is a fringe role player. Let the Knicks overpay.

No. Batum is REALLY good and would be an awesome fit with Harden.

Also, keeping it in Charolette I'd rather have Marvin Williams over Ryan Anderson. Not as good offensively but still a 40% three point shooter on tons of attempts. WAY better defender and a better rebounder

Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

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What's so great about him? A subpar shooter with poor shot selection, an average defender with high usage rate. His only strengths are that he's a decent rebounder who can pass the ball. Dude hasn't been any better since he was with the Trail Blazers. Not to mention that he's a big time playoffs choker and a mental midget. He's one of those guys who had great potential during his rookie and now will never live up to it. He's a fringe role player at best.

Bruteque · Post #29 » by **Bruteque** » Thu May 19, 2016 5:55 pm

Houston players look positively disinterested this season. I don't think it's a player personnel problem; I think it's a Harden-centric game plan problem.

When everybody on the teams knows they probably won't touch the ball except when it's a bail out, their interest levels and shooting rhythms go to hell. You can target all the "high character," "high IQ," and "shooter" players you want. It won't take very long playing in such a toxic "system" for them to turn into disinterested sleepwalking bad shooters.

I'm not saying that analytics cannot quantify the "systemic toxicity" cost and find the optimal balance of "systemic toxicity," shot efficiency, defensive efficiency, etc.; I'm saying that Morey's analytics obviously hasn't gotten to that level of refinement yet. If he can't effectively quantify the "systemic toxicity" costs yet, then he needs a coach who is good at estimating such costs to help him get close to the neighborhood of the sweet spot between the quantifiable and the not yet quantifiable.

A good mathematician knows how to incorporate expert estimation on quantities the mathematician does not yet know how to analyze rigorously. Maybe what Morey needs is an experienced interviewer for expert systems so he can put numbers to what he has been neglecting but yet are obviously integral in accurately predicting basketball results.

MaxRider · Post #30 » by **MaxRider** » Thu May 19, 2016 7:28 pm

Horford and Conley will work perfectly in Vogel system in Indiana
for D'Antoni i'm not so sure
i remember watching his Suns team play
all they do is Nash and Amare run pick and roll all day and the other 3 spot up on the 3pts line

K_chile22 · Post #31 » by **K_chile22** » Thu May 19, 2016 8:01 pm

MaxRider wrote:Horford and Conley will work perfectly in Vogel system in Indiana
for D'Antoni i'm not so sure
i remember watching his Suns team play
all they do is Nash and Amare run pick and roll all day and the other 3 spot up on the 3pts line

That's not completely true but it's what the offense is built on. Also having smart passing players like those two really helps. Horrors would be great in pick and pops

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MaxRider · Post #32 » by **MaxRider** » Thu May 19, 2016 8:08 pm

K_chile22 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:Horford and Conley will work perfectly in Vogel system in Indiana
for D'Antoni i'm not so sure
i remember watching his Suns team play
all they do is Nash and Amare run pick and roll all day and the other 3 spot up on the 3pts line

That's not completely true but it's what the offense is built on. Also having smart passing players like those two really helps. Horrors would be great in pick and pops

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it's not just passing
Horford and Conley move well without the ball

KM6 · Post #33 » by **KM6** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:50 am

texasholdem wrote:
Mr. E wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

I'm sure the Lin only fans have chilled out by now. Maybe the new Chinese kid in the draft will deflect some attention from him too.

Oh, you have no idea... The Chinese kid needs at least 30lb more lean mass to be legit. 99% of Lin fans don't even know who the Chinese kid is.

zapatasblood · Post #34 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon May 23, 2016 2:49 pm

TMU wrote:Come on man, Batum is a fringe role player. Let the Knicks overpay.

That's a bit harsh. Batum is a good player and would be the best three point shooter the moment he signs here. REd's contract is a bit high but I Think he would work well next to Harden.

Also saw Someone float Parsons name which is a hell no! And hell no to Vogel.

Sorry mods but yes I'd be perfectly fine with Lin aka he who shall not be named. He Would be great off the bench

If we sign Noah he better be a backup vet leadership type guy.

We will not get horford or durrant but does not mean we shouldn't kick the tires but we better not sit on the sidelines waiting for them while other players get signed. Also I think Teleivic would be a much better signing over Anderson based off money but hopefully we get one of them

Nebula1 · Post #35 » by **Nebula1** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:18 pm

I'd like Brandon Jennings down here to pair with Bev.

texasholdem · Post #36 » by **texasholdem** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:35 pm

Nebula1 wrote:I'd like Brandon Jennings down here to pair with Bev.

he's pals with James so it could happen though I question his sanity here

texasholdem · Post #37 » by **texasholdem** » Mon May 23, 2016 3:38 pm

KM6 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:
Mr. E wrote:
I do not want to go through that again.

I'm sure the Lin only fans have chilled out by now. Maybe the new Chinese kid in the draft will deflect some attention from him too.

Oh, you have no idea... The Chinese kid needs at least 30lb more lean mass to be legit. 99% of Lin fans don't even know who the Chinese kid is.

He's only 20 and is more of a combo forward not a post up center so he doesn't need to bulk up that much. That's probably why Yao's feet got injured so often. He put on too much weight too fast.

zapatasblood · Post #38 » by **zapatasblood** » Mon May 23, 2016 6:56 pm

The Jennings Harden backcourt sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. Never liked Jennings never will like him

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K_chile22 · Post #39 » by **K_chile22** » Mon May 23, 2016 7:31 pm

I actually really like Chalmers as a backup point guard

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rockets22 · Post #40 » by **rockets22** » Tue May 24, 2016 10:19 am

texasholdem wrote:
Mr. E wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
Also Lin would be good but I doubt it

I do not want to go through that again.

I'm sure the Lin only fans have chilled out by now. Maybe the new Chinese kid in the draft will deflect some attention from him too.

Lol go check the Hornets board. They are as delusional and annoying as ever.