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Re: Piston All-time Fantasy Draft *Player Pool and Sign Up* 

Post#21 » by Snakebites » Fri May 20, 2016 12:49 am

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Pharaoh wrote:If we can't get anyone else can't we just roll with 7?

Probably only pick 8 or 9 guys too so we all have an actual rotation


It's definitely a go with what we have now. More would be nice, but I agree with Snakebites that 8 should probably be the max.


Yeah, this is happening either way. One more person would be idea though.
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Post#22 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 1:09 am

Any more thoughts on AI, TMAC, and Webber?
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Post#23 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 1:15 am

Snakebites wrote:Just to clarify, you ARE playing, right Laimbeer?

If you are, we now have 7 people with Han Solo added to the mix. I think one more would give us the perfect number, not sure I'm comfortable with more than 8 for this draft pool.


Talked me into it, but be advised I don't know jack on X's and O's. :lol:
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Re: Piston All-time Fantasy Draft *Player Pool and Sign Up* 

Post#24 » by Snakebites » Fri May 20, 2016 1:25 am

I'd prefer 8 just because I'm OCD, but we probably shouldn't wait TOO long for someone else to sign up, lest people lose interest.

And Laimb, I like to think I'm fairly knowledgable about players and history of the game, but I don't really know much about game plans, X's and O's either.
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Post#25 » by RexRyan » Fri May 20, 2016 1:41 am

Snakebites wrote:I'd prefer 8 just because I'm OCD, but we probably shouldn't wait TOO long for someone else to sign up, lest people lose interest.

And Laimb, I like to think I'm fairly knowledgable about players and history of the game, but I don't really know much about game plans, X's and O's either.


Yeah, I think being more of a GM makes sense. The match ups are drawn, each owner makes the case of why their team is better, then everyone on the board gets to vote for a couple days?
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Post#26 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 1:44 am

bballnmike wrote:Curious, using this player pool, what's the weakest starting 5 you could build? (probably mostly guys from the past 7 years I'd assume)

Go!


C'mon someone with a picture of SVG must be interested in signing up!
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Post#27 » by Han Solo » Fri May 20, 2016 2:00 am

Image he's on the list.. loved Jon Barry.
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Post#28 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 2:07 am

Snakebites wrote:Most hated team of all time:

PG: Allen Iverson
SG: Flip Murray (who should be in the pool, btw)
SF: Josh Smith
PF: Charlie Villanueva (nice guy, hated him as a player
C: Christian Laettner

Irony is Laettner might actually be a useful player on the right team and I could even see myself drafting him at some point, I just so personally disliked him when he was here.

And really, Iverson absolutely needs to be in this pool. Sure, he's predominantly known as a non Piston, but you can say the same for guys like Antonio McDyess, Theo Ratliff, heck, even dudes like Adrian Dantley and Mark Aguirre. All of those guys had both longer and far more successful stints with other teams. Heck, Sean Elliott is almost like the SF version of Iverson- never really bought into being here and was gone in a year!

Chris Webber is more of a gray area since he never played anything close to a full season with us (43 games to Iverson's 54, and Iverson was traded to us 2 days into the season). Would I draft him? No. Could I see someone else trying to sell him? Probably. He never really fit in with the group we had in place.

I envision 8 teams with 8 to 10 guys per team. Part of the challenge will be finding bench players with limited abilities who complement the rest of the team. Still unsure whether I'd rather have a high pick or a low pick, but I assume the randomizer will decide that.


Murray is now in. Why do I have no recollection of that guy?

Yeah, I thinking 8 x 10 on the teams. The draft will take a while.
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Re: Piston All-time Fantasy Draft *Player Pool and Sign Up* 

Post#29 » by Snakebites » Fri May 20, 2016 2:52 am

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Snakebites wrote:Most hated team of all time:

PG: Allen Iverson
SG: Flip Murray (who should be in the pool, btw)
SF: Josh Smith
PF: Charlie Villanueva (nice guy, hated him as a player
C: Christian Laettner

Irony is Laettner might actually be a useful player on the right team and I could even see myself drafting him at some point, I just so personally disliked him when he was here.

And really, Iverson absolutely needs to be in this pool. Sure, he's predominantly known as a non Piston, but you can say the same for guys like Antonio McDyess, Theo Ratliff, heck, even dudes like Adrian Dantley and Mark Aguirre. All of those guys had both longer and far more successful stints with other teams. Heck, Sean Elliott is almost like the SF version of Iverson- never really bought into being here and was gone in a year!

Chris Webber is more of a gray area since he never played anything close to a full season with us (43 games to Iverson's 54, and Iverson was traded to us 2 days into the season). Would I draft him? No. Could I see someone else trying to sell him? Probably. He never really fit in with the group we had in place.

I envision 8 teams with 8 to 10 guys per team. Part of the challenge will be finding bench players with limited abilities who complement the rest of the team. Still unsure whether I'd rather have a high pick or a low pick, but I assume the randomizer will decide that.


Murray is now in. Why do I have no recollection of that guy?

Yeah, I thinking 8 x 10 on the teams. The draft will take a while.


He was our first guard off the bench the year after Big Ben left. He wasn't very good, but he was a spark plug off the bench type guy who had better success elsewhere. Was with us for about a season and a half.
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Post#30 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 10:18 am

Need one more! Don't be shy! 8-)
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Post#31 » by bballnmike » Fri May 20, 2016 1:59 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
bballnmike wrote:Curious, using this player pool, what's the weakest starting 5 you could build? (probably mostly guys from the past 7 years I'd assume)

Go!


C'mon someone with a picture of SVG must be interested in signing up!

Haha I don't think I have the time or commitment
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Post#32 » by Laimbeer » Fri May 20, 2016 2:11 pm

Warspite wrote:of course I'm in. I'm already working on a mock draft. The SF again seems to have great value. Even the bigmen seem pretty talented. Who here doesn't think Terry Mills couldnt have been a stretch 4 nightmare playing today?


How would you compare Pistons DeBusschere to Knicks DeBusschere?
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4) The cap is going up
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Post#33 » by Lionlifer » Fri May 20, 2016 3:36 pm

Laimbeer wrote:Any more thoughts on AI, TMAC, and Webber?


Per the list on page 1 there are 88 players in play. If we have 8 teams drafting 10 players we'd use 80 at a minimum. I'd say throw them in so that we have a bit more options in the later rounds.
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Post#34 » by flow » Fri May 20, 2016 4:28 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
Centers (18)

Andre Drummond
Greg Monroe
Ben Wallace
Theo Ratliff
Bill Laimbeer
Olden Polynice
James Edwards
Kent Benson
Earl Cureton
Paul Mokeski
Bob Lanier
Aron Baynes
Mark West
Amir Johnson
Eric Montross
Elden Campbell
Christian Laettner
Leon Douglas

Missing Nazr Mohammed.


Laimbeer wrote:

Shooting Guards (16)

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope
Ben Gordon
Richard Hamilton
Carlos Delfino
Michael Curry
Jon Barry
Jerry Stackhouse
Jud Buechler
Allan Houston
Arron Afflalo
Vinnie Johnson
John Long
Ron Lee
Chris Ford
Jodie Meeks
Joe Dumars


Point Guards (18)

Brandon Jennings
Reggie Jackson
Chauncey Billups
Rodney Stuckey
Will Bynum
Brandon Knight
Chucky Atkins
Lindsey Hunter
Isiah Thomas
Eric Money
Kevin Porter
Dave Bing
DJ Augustine
Jose Calderon
Steve Blake
Flip Murray
Dana Barros
Darrell Walker

Missing Mike James.

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Post#35 » by RexRyan » Fri May 20, 2016 5:21 pm

Need a couple more shooting guards - Cedric Ceballos? Tony Delk? Maurice Evans? Bob Sura? Aaron McKie? Stacy Augmon?
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Post#36 » by Timmaytime » Sat May 21, 2016 12:40 am

Laimbeer wrote:.


I suppose i'll be your eighth guy, cause clearly I haven't done enough of these recently.
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Post#37 » by Snakebites » Sat May 21, 2016 1:12 am

Timmaytime wrote:
Laimbeer wrote:.


I suppose i'll be your eighth guy, cause clearly I haven't done enough of these recently.


Awesome!

https://www.random.org/lists/

Laimbeer, I recommend this site for determining the sequence of the draft. Just put our names in it, hit the button, and post the results!

At least that's what I've done when I've run drafts like this in the past.
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Post#38 » by Laimbeer » Sat May 21, 2016 2:16 am

Comments to rationalize bad contracts -
1) It's less than the MLE
2) He can be traded later
3) It's only __% of the cap
4) The cap is going up
5) It's only __ years
6) He's a good mentor/locker room guy

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