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Devon Travis 

Post#1 » by bluerap23 » Sat May 21, 2016 3:37 pm

Should be back very soon. Who gets demoted? Kind of crazy but I think it should be Goins.
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Post#2 » by s e n s i » Sat May 21, 2016 3:41 pm

it absolutely should and will be ryan goins and his 15 wRC+
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.

Bautista outplays his contract by more than $70 million over the next four seasons (2013-2016).
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Post#3 » by Trilogy » Sat May 21, 2016 4:09 pm

Remember when people were trying to debate trading Travis and keeping Goins last year?

I laughed then and I laugh now.
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Post#4 » by bluerap23 » Sat May 21, 2016 4:15 pm

I still consider trading Tulo and letting Goins play SS. Purely for financial reasons.
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Post#5 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat May 21, 2016 4:45 pm

Acquiring Paredes spells trouble for Goins, IMO.
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Post#6 » by Lateral Quicks » Sat May 21, 2016 4:46 pm

bluerap23 wrote:I still consider trading Tulo and letting Goins play SS. Purely for financial reasons.


They'll probably do that next year, or this year at the deadline if the team isn't in it.
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Post#7 » by Kurtz » Sat May 21, 2016 5:19 pm

Barney is a gold-glove 2B who's better than Goins offensively. I can't possibly imagine why we'd want Goins up here when Travis is back.
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Post#8 » by Natural11 » Sun May 22, 2016 1:45 am

Kurtz wrote:Barney is a gold-glove 2B who's better than Goins offensively. I can't possibly imagine why we'd want Goins up here when Travis is back.


That's the question I ask myself every time Goins plays, but he keeps getting more AB's. At this point, I wouldn't be shocked at all if Goins sticks around.

Barney has been type-cast as a 'utility player'. Buck and Tabler remind us of this at every opportunity, as a way of explaining to the viewers the plight of their pro baseball careers. Despite his hot bat and more than capable defense, he will always be Goins' back-up on a Gibbons team. I suppose it won't matter in a week or two, but it is frustrating when you consider the number of one run games we've lost thus far, while mostly benching a hot hitter in favor of a guy who must be nearing historic levels of offensive futility.
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Post#9 » by North_of_Border » Sun May 22, 2016 10:42 pm

I was stashing Travis for so long on my Fantasy Team. Then stupid Odor get punches Bautista and I need a 2B. Result, I waive Travis and pickup a replacement 2B. However, Odor is still playing and Travis eas picked up right away by someone else. I planned on getting Travis back..... fail.

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Post#10 » by dballislife » Mon May 23, 2016 11:20 am

travis looks ready real soon...i think the team believes goins is the better defensive infielder, so imo he stays
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Post#11 » by North_of_Border » Wed May 25, 2016 12:24 am

I think Barney is out if options and would have to be exposed to waivers. Goins has an option, so it makes sense to send him down.
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Post#12 » by Skin Blues » Wed May 25, 2016 2:57 pm

Kurtz wrote:Barney is a gold-glove 2B who's better than Goins offensively. I can't possibly imagine why we'd want Goins up here when Travis is back.

Goins plays elite SS defense, Barney is more of an emergency-only SS. Tulo probably needs a competent backup more than anybody else in the league given the amount of time he misses. Barney is definitely a better hitter, and probably not a big difference in terms of defense at 2B. But SS is where it matters most now, and Goins has the edge there. Although, you also need to consider that if Travis re-injures himself, it is beneficial to have Barney able to fill-in with Goins remaining as utility infielder. I'm not sure how much value you lose with Barney gone though... how hard would it be to get a competent middle infielder in case Travis goes down? We didn't give up much for Pennington or Barney the past couple years (or Kawasaki before them), we could just go pick up Scrap Heap Member #4 in that case.
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Post#13 » by Santoki » Wed May 25, 2016 3:50 pm

Skin Blues wrote:
Kurtz wrote:Barney is a gold-glove 2B who's better than Goins offensively. I can't possibly imagine why we'd want Goins up here when Travis is back.

Goins plays elite SS defense, Barney is more of an emergency-only SS. Tulo probably needs a competent backup more than anybody else in the league given the amount of time he misses. Barney is definitely a better hitter, and probably not a big difference in terms of defense at 2B. But SS is where it matters most now, and Goins has the edge there. Although, you also need to consider that if Travis re-injures himself, it is beneficial to have Barney able to fill-in with Goins remaining as utility infielder. I'm not sure how much value you lose with Barney gone though... how hard would it be to get a competent middle infielder in case Travis goes down? We didn't give up much for Pennington or Barney the past couple years (or Kawasaki before them), we could just go pick up Scrap Heap Member #4 in that case.


If Goins has options though he'll be around the organization to replace Tulo when he inevitably hits the DL.
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Re: Devon Travis 

Post#14 » by Skin Blues » Wed May 25, 2016 3:59 pm

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Kurtz wrote:Barney is a gold-glove 2B who's better than Goins offensively. I can't possibly imagine why we'd want Goins up here when Travis is back.

Goins plays elite SS defense, Barney is more of an emergency-only SS. Tulo probably needs a competent backup more than anybody else in the league given the amount of time he misses. Barney is definitely a better hitter, and probably not a big difference in terms of defense at 2B. But SS is where it matters most now, and Goins has the edge there. Although, you also need to consider that if Travis re-injures himself, it is beneficial to have Barney able to fill-in with Goins remaining as utility infielder. I'm not sure how much value you lose with Barney gone though... how hard would it be to get a competent middle infielder in case Travis goes down? We didn't give up much for Pennington or Barney the past couple years (or Kawasaki before them), we could just go pick up Scrap Heap Member #4 in that case.


If Goins has options though he'll be around the organization to replace Tulo when he inevitably hits the DL.

It's not just the DL, Tulo needs regular days off. Not to mention minor injuries that only last a week where he doesn't go on the DL and therefore we don't have the roster space to bring Goins up.
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Post#15 » by Santoki » Wed May 25, 2016 5:14 pm

Skin Blues wrote:
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Skin Blues wrote:Goins plays elite SS defense, Barney is more of an emergency-only SS. Tulo probably needs a competent backup more than anybody else in the league given the amount of time he misses. Barney is definitely a better hitter, and probably not a big difference in terms of defense at 2B. But SS is where it matters most now, and Goins has the edge there. Although, you also need to consider that if Travis re-injures himself, it is beneficial to have Barney able to fill-in with Goins remaining as utility infielder. I'm not sure how much value you lose with Barney gone though... how hard would it be to get a competent middle infielder in case Travis goes down? We didn't give up much for Pennington or Barney the past couple years (or Kawasaki before them), we could just go pick up Scrap Heap Member #4 in that case.


If Goins has options though he'll be around the organization to replace Tulo when he inevitably hits the DL.

It's not just the DL, Tulo needs regular days off. Not to mention minor injuries that only last a week where he doesn't go on the DL and therefore we don't have the roster space to bring Goins up.


How many days have they rested Tulo so far this season and played Goins? It doesn't seem like he's had many regular days off. And you can also make the argument that they can find a guy to replace Goins who can play a good SS but then that would mean choosing between Goins and Paredes. I just think they need to find a way to keep Barney on this roster right now.
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Post#16 » by Raps_Swingman » Wed May 25, 2016 5:54 pm

Save us Devon Travis....please
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Post#17 » by Raps_Swingman » Wed May 25, 2016 6:00 pm

That's what she said.
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Post#18 » by Santoki » Wed May 25, 2016 8:17 pm

So they've put off the decision for a couple of days until they can make sure Tulo won't have any further issues I assume.

Venditte down for now.
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Post#19 » by North_of_Border » Sat May 28, 2016 12:14 am

Let's be logical here. Both Goins and Barney are marginal role players. Guys like them are abundant and cheap. And now that Travis is back, let's not argue much....... based on 2016 on field play so far, Barney deserves to be on the MLB roster. Goins has played like a minor leaguer and thus should be sent down to the minors.

As for Tulo getting hurt. Either these guys is fine filling in. No problem, no argument. Though preferably, you'd want someone better from outside the organization if it's gonna be a permanent thing. Both these guys are just fill in and nothing more.

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