Buddy Hield

Mustinjo · Post #381 » by **Mustinjo** » Tue May 17, 2016 2:41 pm

I'm not claiming his scoring numbers would necessarily be significantly more impressive , but his all-around numbers would certainly be much better, that's reason I think comparison isn't valid.

Skin · Post #382 » by **Skin** » Tue May 17, 2016 7:44 pm

kennydorglas wrote:

Where did you get this?

okdude80 · Post #383 » by **okdude80** » Tue May 17, 2016 7:55 pm

boston celtics management ,PLEASE do not draft a kentucky player!omg havent we had enough of them already,and got 1 now and the guy cant even get on the court!!!! trust me im from oklahoma,buddy hield is the real deal!!!

MalonesElbows · Post #384 » by **MalonesElbows** » Tue May 17, 2016 11:07 pm

Looking at that diagram Hield projects to be Meeks, with a ceiling of Reddick.
Laughable Assist and free throw rates.

Negrodamus · Post #385 » by **Negrodamus** » Tue May 17, 2016 11:19 pm

okdude80 wrote:boston celtics management ,PLEASE do not draft a kentucky player!omg havent we had enough of them already,and got 1 now and the guy cant even get on the court!!!! trust me im from oklahoma,buddy hield is the real deal!!!

James Young was the most overrated Kentucky player of this era besides maybe Daniel Orton.

Don't lump all UK players together.

cksdayoff · Post #386 » by **cksdayoff** » Wed May 18, 2016 12:10 am

Meeks can't score around the basket like Hield does. Hield is 100x more creative around the rim, has much better hang time.

DrCoach · Post #387 » by **DrCoach** » Wed May 18, 2016 1:41 pm

Mustinjo wrote:I'm not claiming his scoring numbers would necessarily be significantly more impressive , but his all-around numbers would certainly be much better, that's reason I think comparison isn't valid.

He has shown nothing in college or 4 years in the NBA that make me believe that.

Gatoradez · Post #388 » by **Gatoradez** » Thu May 19, 2016 10:07 pm

Damn might be the best shooter to come out of the draft since curry, his works are tough!

https://youtu.be/gy7sDgD4SHk

SeattleJazzFan · Post #389 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Sat May 21, 2016 2:38 pm

lol @ the Reddick comparisons. Reddick has a 6'3" wingspan, Hield is at 6'10". Hield is stronger and a better athlete. The Meeks comparison is similarly laughable. Meeks was a good shooter coming out of college, but not nearly on Hield's level. Meeks TS% was 62, while Hield was at 67%. Meeks was good, Hield is an all timer.

The other part of these comparisons that people are undervaluing, is the importance of the quick release. Hard to believe that could be undervalued with Curry in the spotlight, but it is. Hield has an extremely quick release, where guys like Meeks and Reddick don't. the quick release is a major part of Curry's success, and will be with Hield as well.

Then there is the work ethic - Hield's work ethic is second to none. It's really where he separates himself from everybody else. I'm sure Reddick and Meeks are fine in terms of the work they put in, but they aren't on that level.

Too many people see guys that are the same size, athleticism and good shooters and they project with just those simple things - it's the little things that separate guys on the next level and it's why you can't just say Reddick and Meeks are the same height as Hield and were great shooters in college, so Hield is Reddick and/or Meeks.

Post #390 » by **NuggetsWY** » Sat May 21, 2016 3:21 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Then there is the work ethic - Hield's work ethic is second to none. It's really where he separates himself from everybody else. I'm sure Reddick and Meeks are fine in terms of the work they put in, but they aren't on that level.

They say he is a real gym rat - guys like that usually adjust and improve their game year after year. Michael Jordan was great coming out of college, sure, but he improved some aspect of his game year-after-year. That is how he became GOAT. He was NOT GOAT coming out of college. That is not to say Hield will become GOAT, but it is to point out the importance of the work ethic, as you mentioned.

KingKyrie1 · Post #391 » by **KingKyrie1** » Sat May 21, 2016 3:37 pm

He will be the best player in this draft, eventually.
He has improved every year in college by alot and that says alot.

Mr Gametime · Post #392 » by **Mr Gametime** » Sat May 21, 2016 7:11 pm

He reminds me of a smaller Klay Thompson and he has leadership qualities, he'd be a great role player for a winner. I don't see him falling out of the top 10.

jonjames · Post #393 » by **jonjames** » Sat May 21, 2016 7:53 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:lol @ the Reddick comparisons. Reddick has a 6'3" wingspan, Hield is at 6'10". Hield is stronger and a better athlete. The Meeks comparison is similarly laughable. Meeks was a good shooter coming out of college, but not nearly on Hield's level. Meeks TS% was 62, while Hield was at 67%. Meeks was good, Hield is an all timer.

The other part of these comparisons that people are undervaluing, is the importance of the quick release. Hard to believe that could be undervalued with Curry in the spotlight, but it is. Hield has an extremely quick release, where guys like Meeks and Reddick don't. the quick release is a major part of Curry's success, and will be with Hield as well.

Then there is the work ethic - Hield's work ethic is second to none. It's really where he separates himself from everybody else. I'm sure Reddick and Meeks are fine in terms of the work they put in, but they aren't on that level.

Too many people see guys that are the same size, athleticism and good shooters and they project with just those simple things - it's the little things that separate guys on the next level and it's why you can't just say Reddick and Meeks are the same height as Hield and were great shooters in college, so Hield is Reddick and/or Meeks.

Couldn't agree more. I think he projects better than CJ McCollum. Who might I add was even shorter, worse athlete, and not as good of shooter as buddy and all the while seems to be doing fine at the next level.

Post #394 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sat May 21, 2016 9:13 pm

He will be a good one.

Chuck Everett · Post #395 » by **Chuck Everett** » Sun May 22, 2016 12:21 am

The guy can't dribble, how can he be CJ McCollum? Some of you guys clearly don't watch NBA basketball.

Post #396 » by **Cactus Jack** » Sun May 22, 2016 12:56 am

Chuck Everett wrote:The guy can't dribble, how can he be CJ McCollum? Some of you guys clearly don't watch NBA basketball.

I don't really see McCollum myself. He can handle the ball. But he's not a combo guard.

DrCoach · Post #397 » by **DrCoach** » Sun May 22, 2016 3:34 am

I'll say it again, Bradley Beal

saintEscaton · Post #398 » by **saintEscaton** » Sun May 22, 2016 5:24 am

Cactus Jack wrote:
Chuck Everett wrote:The guy can't dribble, how can he be CJ McCollum? Some of you guys clearly don't watch NBA basketball.

I don't really see McCollum myself. He can handle the ball. But he's not a combo guard.

McCollum can play the point in a pinch and run the second unit with his herky jerky hesitation moves and ability to change directions. Hield isn't as shifty and isn't much of a playmaker as of now

HeartBreakKid · Post #399 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Sun May 22, 2016 8:21 am

When did CJ become great with the ball? Pretty much when ever the Blazers offense is clicking it's because CJ is moving without the ball...CJ has some seriously overrated shake around here.

robbie84 · Post #400 » by **robbie84** » Sun May 22, 2016 10:19 am

I think what stands out about Buddy and reminds people of James Harden is the way he processes the game and reacts to the defense.

Hield seems to be playing the game in slow motion. He's going at one pace and everyone else is going through the motions. There's a fluidity to his athleticism that highlights his IQ and anticipation.

The great players have this 'slow mo' aura about them and to me, Buddy is one of those guys.

He's only just started to bloom aswell. His rise has been so quick and when you combine his confidence, shooting ability and IQ with a truly hall of fame work ethic you have a recipe for something that has a good shot at becoming great.

People say he's reached his ceiling but to me he's only just scratched the surface. Why can't he keep getting better? Because he's 22? That's bogus to me.