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Who should be the next Head Coach?

Jeff Van Gundy (OUT OF RUNNING)
5
15%
Frank Vogel (NO LONGER AVAILABLE)
2
6%
Stephen Silas
4
12%
Mike D'Antoni
10
30%
Ettore Messina
2
6%
Sam Cassell
2
6%
Kenny Smith (OUT OF RUNNING)
3
9%
Mario Elie
1
3%
James Borrego
2
6%
Jeff Hornacek (NO LONGER AVAILABLE)
2
6%
 
Total votes: 33

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Re: Head Coach 

Post#381 » by texasholdem » Sat May 21, 2016 5:35 pm

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texasholdem wrote:Warriors trying to get Silas back as their top assistant to replace Walton.
If you were offered head coach job of Houston vs a good chance to be head coach of GSW in a few years after Kerr, what would you decide?

Lol why would you think Kerr will be gone in a few years? "Yeah, I won a few championships in my first five years, I think I'm done now"


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"I don't think I would have anyway, but there's no way this job will stress me out to the point where it's 'Oh, my God, I can't do this.' Because I know it's a game and it's a job. And it's a really fun job and it's a great job, but it's not one that anybody should work themselves up over to the point where they lose perspective. Health is everything. "

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Re: Head Coach 

Post#382 » by Mr. E » Sat May 21, 2016 7:20 pm

If I'm Silas I'm thinking the Golden State situation sounds much better.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#383 » by K_chile22 » Sat May 21, 2016 9:49 pm

Mr. E wrote:If I'm Silas I'm thinking the Golden State situation sounds much better.

He could be using it as leverage, Hornecack did the same thing, rumors were put out that the Warriors wanted him so he could get the Knicks job


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Re: Head Coach 

Post#384 » by K_chile22 » Sat May 21, 2016 9:51 pm

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:Warriors trying to get Silas back as their top assistant to replace Walton.
If you were offered head coach job of Houston vs a good chance to be head coach of GSW in a few years after Kerr, what would you decide?

Lol why would you think Kerr will be gone in a few years? "Yeah, I won a few championships in my first five years, I think I'm done now"


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"I don't think I would have anyway, but there's no way this job will stress me out to the point where it's 'Oh, my God, I can't do this.' Because I know it's a game and it's a job. And it's a really fun job and it's a great job, but it's not one that anybody should work themselves up over to the point where they lose perspective. Health is everything. "

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/05/19/health-woes-gives-kerr-perspective/

So his plan would be to go to Golden State and hope Kerr's back leaks again? I would hope he's not that kinda guy. The one advantage to taking the Warriors lead assistant job would be that next year he would be a hot commodity like all GSW assistants, not the possibility of taking over for Kerr


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Re: Head Coach 

Post#385 » by texasholdem » Sat May 21, 2016 11:10 pm

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texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:Lol why would you think Kerr will be gone in a few years? "Yeah, I won a few championships in my first five years, I think I'm done now"


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"I don't think I would have anyway, but there's no way this job will stress me out to the point where it's 'Oh, my God, I can't do this.' Because I know it's a game and it's a job. And it's a really fun job and it's a great job, but it's not one that anybody should work themselves up over to the point where they lose perspective. Health is everything. "

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/05/19/health-woes-gives-kerr-perspective/

So his plan would be to go to Golden State and hope Kerr's back leaks again? I would hope he's not that kinda guy. The one advantage to taking the Warriors lead assistant job would be that next year he would be a hot commodity like all GSW assistants, not the possibility of taking over for Kerr


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He's young, no need to rush into a lead position. It's a hypothetical question. Would you rather be CEO of Uber or COO of Google with a chance to become CEO in a few years.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#386 » by K_chile22 » Sun May 22, 2016 12:25 am

texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:
"I don't think I would have anyway, but there's no way this job will stress me out to the point where it's 'Oh, my God, I can't do this.' Because I know it's a game and it's a job. And it's a really fun job and it's a great job, but it's not one that anybody should work themselves up over to the point where they lose perspective. Health is everything. "

http://www.nba.com/2016/news/05/19/health-woes-gives-kerr-perspective/

So his plan would be to go to Golden State and hope Kerr's back leaks again? I would hope he's not that kinda guy. The one advantage to taking the Warriors lead assistant job would be that next year he would be a hot commodity like all GSW assistants, not the possibility of taking over for Kerr


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He's young, no need to rush into a lead position. It's a hypothetical question. Would you rather be CEO of Uber or COO of Google with a chance to become CEO in a few years.

Tech companies aren't as volatile as NBA team so that comparison makes no sense. Google will be a successful company for at least the next 50 years. Something can happen and golden state could be bad in two


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Post#387 » by ChokeFasncists » Sun May 22, 2016 12:27 am

Whether D12 returns or who's gonna replace him as the no.2 guy could weigh on Silas' decision. (if it's his to make)
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#388 » by texasholdem » Sun May 22, 2016 12:33 am

K_chile22 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:So his plan would be to go to Golden State and hope Kerr's back leaks again? I would hope he's not that kinda guy. The one advantage to taking the Warriors lead assistant job would be that next year he would be a hot commodity like all GSW assistants, not the possibility of taking over for Kerr


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He's young, no need to rush into a lead position. It's a hypothetical question. Would you rather be CEO of Uber or COO of Google with a chance to become CEO in a few years.

Tech companies aren't as volatile as NBA team so that comparison makes no sense. Google will be a successful company for at least the next 50 years. Something can happen and golden state could be bad in two


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tell that to Yahoo, MySpace, Palm, AOL, etc
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Post#389 » by K_chile22 » Sun May 22, 2016 4:31 am

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K_chile22 wrote:
texasholdem wrote:
He's young, no need to rush into a lead position. It's a hypothetical question. Would you rather be CEO of Uber or COO of Google with a chance to become CEO in a few years.

Tech companies aren't as volatile as NBA team so that comparison makes no sense. Google will be a successful company for at least the next 50 years. Something can happen and golden state could be bad in two


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tell that to Yahoo, MySpace, Palm, AOL, etc

Those are all still very successful companies that are worth millions.
I don't know about palm but the rest are

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Re: Head Coach 

Post#390 » by texasholdem » Sun May 22, 2016 6:54 am

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texasholdem wrote:
K_chile22 wrote:Tech companies aren't as volatile as NBA team so that comparison makes no sense. Google will be a successful company for at least the next 50 years. Something can happen and golden state could be bad in two


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tell that to Yahoo, MySpace, Palm, AOL, etc

Those are all still very successful companies that are worth millions.
I don't know about palm but the rest are

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Palm is dead
MySpace, Yahoo and AOL are worth a fraction on what they used to be.
very successful is subjective I guess.

Cavs owner Dan Gilbert is trying to buy Yahoo for pennies on the dollar
http://fortune.com/2016/05/20/yahoo-bids-lower-expected/
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#391 » by Nebula1 » Mon May 23, 2016 3:26 pm

So the options suck now. What's happening in Houston is not a good look at the moment and will require Morey's best work to get it turned around.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#392 » by MaxRider » Mon May 23, 2016 4:19 pm

Nebula1 wrote:So the options suck now. What's happening in Houston is not a good look at the moment and will require Morey's best work to get it turned around.


at this stage i don't think there is experienced head coach available that can help us (not even JVG)
i'm ok with Silas/Hollins
pretty hard to do worse than JBB
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Post#393 » by Nebula1 » Mon May 23, 2016 5:00 pm

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Nebula1 wrote:So the options suck now. What's happening in Houston is not a good look at the moment and will require Morey's best work to get it turned around.


at this stage i don't think there is experienced head coach available that can help us (not even JVG)
i'm ok with Silas/Hollins
pretty hard to do worse than JBB



It sure appears that the Rockets job is not very appealing which says a lot about management.


Personally this is my last offseason as a fan giving Morey the benefit of the doubt. All his dealing has turned into high turnover and a failing roster.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#394 » by MaxRider » Mon May 23, 2016 5:51 pm

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MaxRider wrote:
Nebula1 wrote:So the options suck now. What's happening in Houston is not a good look at the moment and will require Morey's best work to get it turned around.


at this stage i don't think there is experienced head coach available that can help us (not even JVG)
i'm ok with Silas/Hollins
pretty hard to do worse than JBB



It sure appears that the Rockets job is not very appealing which says a lot about management.


Personally this is my last offseason as a fan giving Morey the benefit of the doubt. All his dealing has turned into high turnover and a failing roster.


people like stability
coach hate it when the GM keep making changes to the roster
everyone know Morey loves to do that
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#395 » by Nebula1 » Mon May 23, 2016 6:06 pm

MaxRider wrote:people like stability
coach hate it when the GM keep making changes to the roster
everyone know Morey loves to do that



Yep agreed. What's interesting in this case is Morey brought everybody back in hopes of continuity.... then fired McHale.... told Dwight his role is different and had no shooters on the roster while riding a lame duck coach.

T Jones got benched, who was the X factor and then Morey did nothing at the deadline.


I'm basically losing faith in Morey and the franchise that they have a realistic goal and a path to get there. Because the "get KD" ship has probably sailed, which means they really have no path the title.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#396 » by texasholdem » Mon May 23, 2016 6:13 pm

Rockets who were on the regular season roster since 2006-2007 season when Morey started as Assistant GM:

James Anderson, Omer Asik, Cole Aldrich, Jeff Adrien, Hilton Armstrong, Trevor Ariza, David Andersen, Ron Artest, Rafer Alston, Michael Beasley, Corey Brewer, Tarik Black, Patrick Beverley, Ronnie Brewer, Earl Boykins, Chase Budinger, Brent Barry, Aaron Brooks, Shane Battier, Clint Capela, Isaiah Canaan, Omri Casspi, Robert Covington, Daequan Cook, Marcus Camby, DeMarre Carroll, Will Conroy, Brain Cook, Sam Dekker, Troy Daniels, Carlos Delfino, Toney Douglas, Samuel Dalmebert, Goran Dragic, Joey Dorsey, Jonny Flynn, Courtney Fortson, Steve Francis, Andrew Goudelock, Francisco Garcia, Gerald Green, Montrezl Harrell, Jordan Hamilton, Dwight Howard, James Harden, Jordan Hill, Mike Harris, Chuck Hayes, Luther Head, Juwan Howard, Nick Johnson, Terrence Jones, Jared Jeffries, Bobby Jackson, Bobby Jones, Mike James, Ty Lawson, Jeremy Lin, Courtney Lee, Kyle Lowry, Carl Landry, John Lucas, KJ McDaniels, Donatas Motiejunas, Scott Machado, Marcus Morris, Kevin Martin, Brad Miller, Pops Mensah-Bonsu, Tracy McGrady, Dikembe Mutombo, Steve Novak, Tim Olhbrecht, Scott Padgett, Kostas Papanikolaou, Chandler Parsons, Patrick Patterson, Pablo Prigioni, Thomas Robinson, Alexy Shved, Josh Smith, Greg Smith, Ish Smith, Luis Scola, Kirk Snyder, Vassilis Spanoulis, Bob Sura, Marcus Thornton, Jason Terry, Hasheem Thabeet, Garrett Temple, Jermaine Taylor, Jake Tsakalidis, Terrence Williams, James White, Von Wafer, Justin Williams, Bonzi Wells, Loren Woods, Yao Ming.

Now, Morey inherited a few of these guys from Carroll Dawson's tenure but that's 100 players and 4 coaches in 10 years.
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#397 » by MaxRider » Mon May 23, 2016 6:48 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
MaxRider wrote:people like stability
coach hate it when the GM keep making changes to the roster
everyone know Morey loves to do that



Yep agreed. What's interesting in this case is Morey brought everybody back in hopes of continuity.... then fired McHale.... told Dwight his role is different and had no shooters on the roster while riding a lame duck coach.

T Jones got benched, who was the X factor and then Morey did nothing at the deadline.


I'm basically losing faith in Morey and the franchise that they have a realistic goal and a path to get there. Because the "get KD" ship has probably sailed, which means they really have no path the title.


if you just look at the roster it wasn't much difference between 2015 and 2016
but because of injuries the C/PF rotation between the two are totally different
TJones was out in 2015 so DMo became the starting PF until he is injured then TJones return
Howard also out most of 2015 before the playoff
whoever the coach is better shorten the C/PF rotation
Howard/Capela/DMo/Smith/Beasley rotation is too much
may work in regular season but not in playoff
playoff you typical do 8 man rotation
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Re: Head Coach 

Post#398 » by zapatasblood » Mon May 23, 2016 6:52 pm

Don't have a real problem with the rockets taking so long and don't think any real big names have been signed. I did want Walton since I always interested hiring new blood over retreads and the other big thibs was never coming here. He has full control in Minny so that would not work in Houston. The only thing that looks like a train wreck is Les/Morey on JVG.


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Post#399 » by zapatasblood » Mon May 23, 2016 6:54 pm

Right now I am hoping we get one of the Spurs assistances or at the very least not hire Pringles


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Re: Head Coach 

Post#400 » by K_chile22 » Mon May 23, 2016 7:30 pm

zapatasblood wrote:Right now I am hoping we get one of the Spurs assistances or at the very least not hire Pringles


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