The Trade Thread: All Eyes Toward The Offseason

[Qwigglez]

^Agreed on both points, but those crap articles give us something to talk about.

[Renegade_H]

On Philly.com Sixers Forum, a user with a "source" is claiming PHX and PHI are working a deal surrounding 4 and Noel. Obviously everyone has a source now or just trolling, but hypothetically, what extra pieces would each side have to hammer out to get this done?

Sixers will take contracts and we are looking for either Dunn or Murray at the 4 spot.

[WeekapaugGroove]

On Philly.com Sixers Forum, a user with a "source" is claiming PHX and PHI are working a deal surrounding 4 and Noel. Obviously everyone has a source now or just trolling, but hypothetically, what extra pieces would each side have to hammer out to get this done?

Sixers will take contracts and we are looking for either Dunn or Murray at the 4 spot.

Good lord I hope this is 100% Internet bs. No desire to add Noel and he can't play the 4 so chandler would need to go. I guess I'd be willing to do chandler and 28 for Noel but I don't see Philly doing that.

[Mjee]

Only way we give up #4 is for Okafor!! Sorry Philly

[Dr Manute]

I'd rather do this than trade for Noel:

#4 + #28 (Phoenix) for #24 and the rights to Saric (Philly)
With #24 draft Zhou Qi.

[Cactus Jack]

Only way we give up #4 is for Okafor!! Sorry Philly

Yup. Why didn't they just draft Noel in the first place. This is ridiculous.

[rsavaj]

McDonough already passed on Noel, so I can't see him pursuing him now.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Nerlens, but this would be an odd move for McD. Okafor I could definitely see though...

[rsavaj]

Philly is in an interesting spot with Noel and Okafor. Noel looks like garbage on offense, and he's still a toothpick, but he has put up historically elite defensive numbers for his age. Even if he never develops an offensive move, dude looks like he could be on multiple All-Defense teams, or maybe even in DPOY running. I think worst-case scenario he turns into a better Biyombo, who looks like a boss in these playoffs.

Then you have Okafor, who is one of the most skilled post bigs in the league. Great numbers for a twenty year old, but there's a real question as to whether his skill-set is one you can build around. There's a reason the league has moved away from post-play; even when you're really, really good at it, there's still a higher efficiency shot available.

Okafor may have the higher trade value now, and maybe he has more "star" potential in that maybe the dude toughens up on D and turns into a pick and pop midrange guy like LMA, but for now, he's Al Jefferson on steroids.

Despite their shortcomings, I would definitely trade our two lotto picks for Okafor, and maybe the 13th plus Knight for Nerlens. This draft really, really sucks.

[saintEscaton]

I would dp that deal if Philly absorbs Chandler's albatross contract he could provide invaluable mentorship to whichever bigs they decide to keep. Also maybe if they throw in Covington and we give up Tucker. Dunno if the salaries match but I think Noel still can become the next Larry Sanders in the right situation

[Kerrsed]

On Philly.com Sixers Forum, a user with a "source" is claiming PHX and PHI are working a deal surrounding 4 and Noel. Obviously everyone has a source now or just trolling, but hypothetically, what extra pieces would each side have to hammer out to get this done?

Sixers will take contracts and we are looking for either Dunn or Murray at the 4 spot.

Color me intrigued.....

Im probably the biggest Noel to Phoenix supporter on this board and have brought up the idea of trading for Noel the most over the years, so you can somewhat use me as a bit of a measuring stick.

I would maybe open to Noel/Covington/#24/#26 for Chandler/#4.

Our current FO already passed on Noel for Len. The thing is that i love his defense. The blocks, the steals, the rebounding, the defensive presence in the paint, all things that i look for in a good big. This trade would allow us to dump Chandler, who was brought in and paid big bucks for 2 things, teach Alex Len how to be a defensive C and to help lure Aldridge. He failed on the Aldridge spot, so now he has just become and expensive long term teacher. I think the competition between Noel and Len could help improve both of their games and we might be able to actually run a twin-towers line-up sometimes.

Covington could be the answer at SF that we have been looking for, but who really knows. He put up some good numbers on a s**t team. Is he better than Warren? Once again, who knows, but i'd be willing to take a flyer on him.

The two late 1sts give us a total of 4 1st round picks (13/24/26/28). We could use some of those to help obtain high risk high reward guys we are interested in like Qi/Maker/Diallo/Stone or grab some more veteran guys who have a lower ceiling but would be more "NBA ready" like Baldwin/LeVert/Payton/Bembry/Johnson. More importantly it gives us a little extra to maybe package (24/26/28) together to move up in the draft and get a single player that we really want.

Still dont know if i would do it, but for me, that at least where it would have to start.

[rsavaj]

I would that deal if Philly absorbs Chandler's albatross contract he could provide invaluable mentorship to whichever bigs they decide to keep. Also maybe if they throw in Covington and we give up Tucker. Dunno if the salaries match but I think Noel still can become the next Larry Sanders in the right situation

Larry Sanders is an interesting comp for sure.

I wonder how Colangelo would feel about 4+Chandler+Goodwin for Noel. I think Nerlens is more likely to be moved since he has a payday coming up.

[Cactus Jack]

Philly is in an interesting spot with Noel and Okafor. Noel looks like garbage on offense, and he's still a toothpick, but he has put up historically elite defensive numbers for his age. Even if he never develops an offensive move, dude looks like he could be on multiple All-Defense teams, or maybe even in DPOY running. I think worst-case scenario he turns into a better Biyombo, who looks like a boss in these playoffs.

Then you have Okafor, who is one of the most skilled post bigs in the league. Great numbers for a twenty year old, but there's a real question as to whether his skill-set is one you can build around. There's a reason the league has moved away from post-play; even when you're really, really good at it, there's still a higher efficiency shot available.

Okafor may have the higher trade value now, and maybe he has more "star" potential in that maybe the dude toughens up on D and turns into a pick and pop midrange guy like LMA, but for now, he's Al Jefferson on steroids.

Despite their shortcomings, I would definitely trade our two lotto picks for Okafor, and maybe the 13th plus Knight for Nerlens. This draft really, really sucks.

No need for Noel with Tyson & Len both on board. Would gladly give up picks for Okafor though. Dominant low post scorer. They just don't come around very often.

[Kerrsed]

Knight/Chandler/#4 for Noel/Okafor

76ers: Murray/Knight/Covington/Simmons/Embiid
Suns: Bledsoe/Booker/?????/Noel/Okafor

Trade Len/Warren/#13/#26/#28 to Indy for Granger? Or maybe to some other team for a good starting SF?

[bhawk]

No thanks on Noel. Not a very smart guy...

http://www.upi.com/Sports_News/NBA/2016/04/09/Philadelphia-76ers-Nerlens-Noel-sued-for-property-damage/6591460240590/

http://www.onenewspage.com/video/20160409/4217058/Don-rent-your-house-to-Nerlens-Noel.htm

http://www.tmz.com/2016/05/10/nerlens-noel-i-didnt-trash-that-house-death-threat-was-halloween-decoration/

[Cactus Jack]

Knight/Chandler/#4 for Noel/Okafor

76ers: Murray/Knight/Covington/Simmons/Embiid
Suns: Bledsoe/Booker/?????/Noel/Okafor

Trade Len/Warren/#13/#26/#28 to Indy for Granger? Or maybe to some other team for a good starting SF?

That's a bit optimistic, don't ya think?
Knight & Chandler's contracts for Noel & Okafor. Philly won't move both. Embiids health is still a huge question mark going forward. That package won't get it done for Granger.

[rsavaj]

Philly is in an interesting spot with Noel and Okafor. Noel looks like garbage on offense, and he's still a toothpick, but he has put up historically elite defensive numbers for his age. Even if he never develops an offensive move, dude looks like he could be on multiple All-Defense teams, or maybe even in DPOY running. I think worst-case scenario he turns into a better Biyombo, who looks like a boss in these playoffs.

Then you have Okafor, who is one of the most skilled post bigs in the league. Great numbers for a twenty year old, but there's a real question as to whether his skill-set is one you can build around. There's a reason the league has moved away from post-play; even when you're really, really good at it, there's still a higher efficiency shot available.

Okafor may have the higher trade value now, and maybe he has more "star" potential in that maybe the dude toughens up on D and turns into a pick and pop midrange guy like LMA, but for now, he's Al Jefferson on steroids.

Despite their shortcomings, I would definitely trade our two lotto picks for Okafor, and maybe the 13th plus Knight for Nerlens. This draft really, really sucks.

No need for Noel with Tyson & Len both on board. Would gladly give up picks for Okafor though. Dominant low post scorer. They just don't come around very often.

Tyson isn't gonna be a long-term part of this team, so I don't really care too much about a logjam while he's here

[rsavaj]

Knight/Chandler/#4 for Noel/Okafor

76ers: Murray/Knight/Covington/Simmons/Embiid
Suns: Bledsoe/Booker/?????/Noel/Okafor

Trade Len/Warren/#13/#26/#28 to Indy for Granger? Or maybe to some other team for a good starting SF?

lol Sixers fans want Booker and the 4th for Okafor alone

I think 4 and 13 would be close to get Okafor, especially since it matches up fairly well with Boston's 3/13 offer. At that point, no need(or assets, really) to get Nerlens.

[Cactus Jack]

Philly is in an interesting spot with Noel and Okafor. Noel looks like garbage on offense, and he's still a toothpick, but he has put up historically elite defensive numbers for his age. Even if he never develops an offensive move, dude looks like he could be on multiple All-Defense teams, or maybe even in DPOY running. I think worst-case scenario he turns into a better Biyombo, who looks like a boss in these playoffs.

Then you have Okafor, who is one of the most skilled post bigs in the league. Great numbers for a twenty year old, but there's a real question as to whether his skill-set is one you can build around. There's a reason the league has moved away from post-play; even when you're really, really good at it, there's still a higher efficiency shot available.

Okafor may have the higher trade value now, and maybe he has more "star" potential in that maybe the dude toughens up on D and turns into a pick and pop midrange guy like LMA, but for now, he's Al Jefferson on steroids.

Despite their shortcomings, I would definitely trade our two lotto picks for Okafor, and maybe the 13th plus Knight for Nerlens. This draft really, really sucks.

No need for Noel with Tyson & Len both on board. Would gladly give up picks for Okafor though. Dominant low post scorer. They just don't come around very often.

Tyson isn't gonna be a long-term part of this team, so I don't really care too much about a logjam while he's here

I agree with Tyson longterm. It's just kind of redundant with Noel on the roster as well.

[Jdiddy701]

I like Noel but not for fourth pick.


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[ImNotMcDiSwear]

On Philly.com Sixers Forum, a user with a "source" is claiming PHX and PHI are working a deal surrounding 4 and Noel. Obviously everyone has a source now or just trolling, but hypothetically, what extra pieces would each side have to hammer out to get this done?

Sixers will take contracts and we are looking for either Dunn or Murray at the 4 spot.

Good lord I hope this is 100% Internet bs. No desire to add Noel and he can't play the 4 so chandler would need to go. I guess I'd be willing to do chandler and 28 for Noel but I don't see Philly doing that.

We'd need to move Alex; otherwise, we'd have two non-scoring centers up for big paydays simultaneously - not a good position to be in. We didn't draft Noel not only for injury reasons, but character concerns.

I'm willing to bet this is BS. And I wouldn't trade the #4 for either Noel or Okafor. If it's a 3 team deal, we can talk, but Noel alone is really just the start of a package for the #4, IMO.

Edit: And one more thing. Trading Tyson and/or Knight for nothing is a NEGATIVE value proposition. We won't give them away. Who would we sign instead?? What good is cap space when you have nothing to spend it on? Besides, there will be teams that fail to get the guy they want in this FA class who will see Tyson as a low-cost option. If we want to trade him (I doubt it, at least this summer), there will be options.