What if we pick Porzingis instead of DLO?

thegamefritz · Post #1 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 2:50 pm

I often think about this. Do not misconstrue me, I'm satisfied with DLO, I got faith on him but would we be in better position now if we got Porzingis instead.

The money we got and then we got the # 2 pick which we could use for Kris Dunn OR Ingram instead.
Dunn would definitely be a an allstar. Then we hired Luke that would really fit with Porzingis' game. Now that said, we could have a line up of

C-Porzingis
PF-Randle
SF- Ingram
SG-DeRozan
PG-Clarkson
or

C-Porzingis
PF-Randle
SF- Free agent (Derozan, Barnes)
SG-Clarkson
PG-Dunn

Post #2 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 2:53 pm

Pointless hindsight and I'm quite happy with what we have in Russell and the chance to add either Simmons or Ingram into the mix. Also there is no upside to any scenario involving us singing Derozan.

rzzzzz · Post #3 » by **rzzzzz** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:02 pm

the NBA's inevitable move to small ball isn't quite dead after last night, but it's on life support. hard to believe so many "experts" caught up with the notion of the modern game moving away from big men. especially in LA, where every banner is associated with significant presence down low. this is not to say that Russell doesn't still hold decent promise. but there are suddenly some really good looking big guys breaking into the league, and no one should be surprised if a couple of them will be featured someday in top contending teams.

Mirjalovic · Post #4 » by **Mirjalovic** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:06 pm

No Derozan scenario is good for me.

but if its Conley not Derozan, lets talk.

thegamefritz · Post #5 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:07 pm

What I'm saying is there's abundant of wings available, tons of PG but few legit 7 foot esp 7'3" that block/alter shots and most of all can space the floor for Randle. We could even get Conley with the $$ we have

Post #6 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:10 pm

thegamefritz wrote:What I'm saying is there's abundant of wings available, tons of PG but few legit 7 foot esp 7'3" that block/alter shots and most of all can space the floor for Randle.

There is no abundant wings available. SG/SF position is at its weakest right now. That is why dudes like Chandler Parsons, Nic Batum and Wes Matthews coming off an achilles surgery are getting paid close to the max. Even in the playoffs, the best players have either been great wings (Lebron, Durant, Leonard) or elite PGs (Curry, Westbrook and CP3). There might be a lot of PGs available but the truly elite players are barely a handful.

We shouldn't be making moves depending on Randle anyways, until atleast he shows that he can address his shortcomings at both ends.

thegamefritz · Post #7 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:32 pm

so there's more bigs than wings?? there are alot of wings currently playing in the NBA and more coming into draft. I'm not saying they are allstars but they can play for sure

Post #8 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:37 pm

thegamefritz wrote:so there's more bigs than wings?? there are alot of wings currently playing in the NBA and more coming into draft. I'm not saying they are allstars but they can play for sure

Do you have a count of this? Have you parsed through every NBA roster and determined how many bigs there are in comparison to wings? I'd rather play a wing at PF and do quite well in this era of small ball than stick to playing a big for the sake of playing a big.

thegamefritz · Post #9 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:41 pm

Like Adams who got no Jumpshot, Kanter who got no D and Ibaka who can shoot the 3's but not even a 7 ft player ain't killing GSW.

Post #10 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 3:47 pm

thegamefritz wrote:Like Adams who got no Jumpshot, Kanter who got no D and Ibaka who can shoot the 3's but not even a 7 ft player ain't killing GSW.

Can you rephrase this in English?

Dr Aki · Post #11 » by **Dr Aki** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:02 pm

we would've won more games and then we wouldn't have the #2

thegamefritz · Post #12 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:09 pm

Slava wrote:
thegamefritz wrote:Like Adams who got no Jumpshot, Kanter who got no D and Ibaka who can shoot the 3's but not even a 7 ft player ain't killing GSW.

Can you rephrase this in English?

so you're engaging those cards now? We all know that we don't need to be traditional or formal with our post here.

Just because my Avatar is Asian doesn't mean IDK how to speak in English. FYI, I've been living here in the US for the longest time and might have better educational procurement than yours.

Post #13 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:13 pm

thegamefritz wrote:
Slava wrote:
thegamefritz wrote:Like Adams who got no Jumpshot, Kanter who got no D and Ibaka who can shoot the 3's but not even a 7 ft player ain't killing GSW.

Can you rephrase this in English?

so you're engaging those cards now? We all know that we don't need to be traditional or formal with our post here.

Just because my Avatar is Asian doesn't mean IDK how to speak in English. FYI, I'm living here in the US for the longest time and might have better educational procurement than yours.

I'm asking because your post genuinely doesn't make sense and I have avatars disabled so don't even know what you have there. If you wish to engage in a dick measuring contest, I'll save you the trouble of making wrong assumptions and let you know I have a Masters Degree in Engineering in the US, so please let me know if your "educational procurement" is better than mine.

thegamefritz · Post #14 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:21 pm

then why you trippi'n on my English?

I must say that's very impressive and I'm honest enough to say that your Dick is bigger than mine LMAO as I'm only an NP with an MAN, the might in my statement was really helpful!

Post #15 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:22 pm

rzzzzz wrote:the NBA's inevitable move to small ball isn't quite dead after last night, but it's on life support. hard to believe so many "experts" caught up with the notion of the modern game moving away from big men. especially in LA, where every banner is associated with significant presence down low. this is not to say that Russell doesn't still hold decent promise. but there are suddenly some really good looking big guys breaking into the league, and no one should be surprised if a couple of them will be featured someday in top contending teams.

The progression away from small ball isnt to bigs that clog up the paint and can't defend outside of it, it's to bigs that allow you to still be big but that can also spread the floor and maintain rim protection and rebounding. Ibaka is a glimpse at this. The thunder are going with Durant and Ibaka up front, and it's a whole new level of "small ball" where you have speed and space and don't sacrifice size.

Post #16 » by **crazyeights** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:26 pm

Found this interesting: http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=porzikr01&p2=randlju01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Rk Player From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA 2P% eFG% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
1 Kristaps Porzingis 2016 2016 72 72 28.4 5.2 12.3 .421 1.1 3.4 .333 4.1 8.9 .454 .467 2.8 3.3 .838 1.8 5.5 7.3 1.3 0.7 1.9 1.7 2.8 14.3
2 Julius Randle 2015 2016 82 60 28.0 4.4 10.2 .428 0.1 0.4 .278 4.3 9.8 .435 .434 2.4 3.3 .710 2.1 8.0 10.1 1.8 0.6 0.4 1.8 3.0 11.2

Post #17 » by **dockingsched** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:26 pm

thegamefritz wrote:
Slava wrote:
thegamefritz wrote:Like Adams who got no Jumpshot, Kanter who got no D and Ibaka who can shoot the 3's but not even a 7 ft player ain't killing GSW.

Can you rephrase this in English?

so you're engaging those cards now? We all know that we don't need to be traditional or formal with our post here.

Just because my Avatar is Asian doesn't mean IDK how to speak in English. FYI, I've been living here in the US for the longest time and might have better educational procurement than yours.

Your post made no sense.

Slava's reply about speaking English isn't an attack on your ability to use English, it's just a common way to point out that you went a little extreme with the lazy typing and made it hard to understand.

Post #18 » by **Slava** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:28 pm

thegamefritz wrote:then why you trippi'n on my English?

I must say that's very impressive and I'm honest enough to say that your Dick is bigger than mine LMAO as I'm only an NP with an MAN, the might in my statement was really helpful!

I'm not calling you out over anything. Typing well, using paragraphs, proper spelling etc costs nothing and its much easier for someone else to read your posts if you do basic things right. This is an online forum and if you are taking time to post, you would obviously want more people reading and responding to it.

People would rather read a well formatted post containing less substance than read something with double negatives and bad spelling even if it has better content.

PKABOOICU · Post #19 » by **PKABOOICU** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:41 pm

If we drafted Porzingis last year, it just means the Lakers are taking a hard look at Chris Dunn this year. I think they still grab Simmons/Ingram, but I like D'Lo paired up with them over porzingis anyway.
Besides, D'Lo was my draft choice last year, and he's going to be a very good player; probably a multiple time allstar. Our position with D'lo is better than it would have been with Porzingis IMO.

thegamefritz · Post #20 » by **thegamefritz** » Wed May 25, 2016 4:46 pm

Slava wrote:
thegamefritz wrote:then why you trippi'n on my English?

I must say that's very impressive and I'm honest enough to say that your Dick is bigger than mine LMAO as I'm only an NP with an MAN, the might in my statement was really helpful!

I'm not calling you out over anything. Typing well, using paragraphs, proper spelling etc costs nothing and its much easier for someone else to read your posts if you do basic things right. This is an online forum and if you are taking time to post, you would obviously want more people reading and responding to it.

People would rather read a well formatted post containing less substance than read something with double negatives and bad spelling even if it has better content.

Just can't be avoided to use slang and shortcuts when multitasking but Point taken.